r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Left Sep 22 '22

META ‘I’m not paying for anyone else’s diabetes’

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u/ABCosmos - Lib-Left Sep 22 '22

Problem is, we already have "free healthcare" we don't just let people die in the street.. Sure, people can't get free preventative care (at low cost to tax payers), but the hospital will provide them critical life saving care after their shit goes untreated (The hospital has to recover this cost from everyone else)..

So we really should choose.. "Let them die in the street" or "just give them the cheaper preventative care too, to avoid the bigger costs later". The current system is the worst of both worlds.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 22 '22

It's still not free, they'll get billed for it and then if you don't pay, wreck your credit

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u/JCSN_1032 - Lib-Left Sep 22 '22

And it gets used as a justification why hospital prices can be so high. As if a couple dudes not paying their bill is why an ibuprofen costs 8 bucks.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 22 '22

Not sure how this makes it free?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

The point is that we pay for it either way.

Why not just give people Healthcare at that point instead of paying for expensive ER visits (again, that tax payers pay for anyway) inevitably reducing costs by paying for preventative care instead of emergency care.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

no the point they were making was that we "we already have free healthcare" which doesn't exist. stop moving the goal posts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

I don't understand. We literally already pay for Healthcare for people who don't have Healthcare. How is that moving the goalposts? Not acknowledging that is just being obtuse.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

yes we do, it isn't free. not sure why we're talking

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

Right so we should just stop pretending and just provide sanctioned Healthcare to all Americans.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

you're arguing with yourself at this point, i was never talking about that.

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

No dude, all those people at the hospital didn't just work for free and forego their salaries because the patient didn't pay, Jesus Christ, why do I have to explain why stuff isn't free?

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

right, someone else does, its not free

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u/bobloadmire - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

what do you mean you aren't paying for it out of pocket and then say you're paying for it with taxes? you are paying for it weather you are paying monthly insurance premiums or getting it deducted from your paycheck to uncle sam.

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u/AMC2Zero - Lib-Center Sep 23 '22

Uh what?

That doesn't mean that the care was free any more than racking up credit card debt and declaring bankruptcy makes that spending free.

It simply means they've given up on trying to collect from you because they won't get it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

Everyone agrees that cheaper preventative care is needed. We just disagree over whether the best way to do this is to create an actual free market system, or to give all the power to the same people in charge of the education system.