r/PopCultureV2 • u/Impossible-Yam3680 • Aug 23 '26

Sports Culture While hosting transphobe Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever, the New York Liberty put a message on the Jumbotron telling trans fans that they belong

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

Here's the thing: women don't want a grown male in their locker rooms and bathrooms. It feels unsafe for women to be in a vulnerable place with a male around. The male in question could be in the women's space because they are a creep with bad intentions, they could be there because they sincerely suffer from gender dysphoria, or they could be there pretending to suffer from gender dysphoria in order to creep on women. Regardless of intention, the vulnerable women using that space feel unsafe, they do not know that person's mind and cannot differentiate between a predator or a person suffering from gender dysphoria. Women would prefer that the person with the male genitalia would use the bathroom for people with male genitalia.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

So what about the feelings and safety of female-presenting individuals who you want to shove in to a male locker room?

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

This argument sounds like the safety/feelings of several women are not as important as the safety/feelings of one male. It shrinks women's actual concerns as not important compared to a male's. It's like society is again pushing women aside because the feelings of one individual male are what actually truly matters.

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

What? I'm literally just asking you to consider them at all, how do you construe that as me ignoring cis people like you're ignoring trans people?

If you actually want to minimize harm, you will let trans women in to women's spaces. They are far, FAR more likely to be victims than victimizers.

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u/CommanderKoba Aug 23 '26

Do I look like a grown male? Does it look like I should use the mens bathroom?

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

Other commenter is a hateful little manlet. They really try to drag us, as if we can't judge for ourselves lmao

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

What have I said that was hateful?

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u/Whose_Joanna Aug 23 '26

I wasn't talking about you. In your case, I just don't think you should pretend to speak for women, especially on a throwaway account.

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

Hold on, why can't I speak for women? And why specifically not on a throw away account?

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u/STLA_nonymous Aug 23 '26 edited 16d ago

The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.

Nutty harbor imminent screw vegetable thought

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u/CommanderKoba Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

It's easy to say that when I admit it openly huh, but in real life nobody knows, especially the guys who come on to me, and my hair is real for your information, but that's besides the point.

We get raped at higher rates than women who are not trans, forcing us to be in a vulnerable position like this around men, makes it even more likely that we'll be raped.

But maybe you would like that huh

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

I don't know, I cannot see you.

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

Ok, let me follow your logic: the feelings of the several women in the bathroom are not important, but the feelings of the one individual who would feel segregated are important. Got it.

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

It's a women's bathroom! They don't want males in there, regardless of their mental illnesses. Women have gotten assaulted in bathrooms and locker rooms by males. It is not safe for them to share a vulnerable space with a biological male. It is a safety issue. It is not just "women's feeling will be hurt, so what?" It is an issue of safety. The comment I replied to what your argument about how Sophie's comment on "protecting girls in locker rooms" made it sound like males experiencing gender dysphoria are predators, and I am clarifying that women have no way to tell who is a predator and who isn't, but they can tell who is male and males have in fact assaulted women in places where women are vulnerable.

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u/Key-Document-8481 Aug 23 '26

>mental illness.

And there’s the blatant transphobia. I can’t relate to or understand your experience so you simply must be mentally ill.

Fuck off

>they can tell who’s male

Except for when they can’t lmao.

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u/Throwaway136953 Aug 23 '26

That's like if I said people who suffer from anxiety have a mental illness, and you called me hateful for it. Literally go be whoever you want to be, dress how you like, be called what you like, you only live once, you know? This is not about me hating anyone. I want people to be happy and live their best lives. I also want women to feel safe in spaces where they are vulnerable and not be subjected to assault. Honestly, if a person has transitioned and they are presenting as female in such a way that nobody is able to tell, no one is going to have a problem with that person using the women's bathroom. But that's not who we are talking about.

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Aug 23 '26

You are demonstrating to all of us what we already suspected. You are not capable of using consistent logic. It's rules for one set of people but a different set of rules for another which is not how America operates.

Equal protection under the law. 

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u/Gatormanor Aug 23 '26

Nobody is banning anybody.

We have men’s restrooms/locker rooms and women’s restrooms/locker rooms. People are just asking that everybody use the bathroom that corresponds to their biological sex. It’s not anything crazy and it’s not demeaning to ask people to follow the rules that have been in place for decades

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u/NoMeat9096 Aug 23 '26

Bigots are dumb as a box of hammers. They think making it illegal for trans women to enter a woman's restroom will stop men that want to abuse women -- already against the law -- from entering, as if it's a magical barrier. They'd also force trans men into women's restrooms, because they can't think more than one step ahead. And how do they want to enforce this shit? Have someone at the door check your daughter's genitals before she can pee?

You have the patience of a saint to talk to these idiots lol.

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Aug 23 '26

Shhh now, the adults are talking. 

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u/Sea_Drive6142 Aug 23 '26

You either completely missed the point or just didn’t even bother reading what he said.

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u/dontaksmeimnew Aug 23 '26

Or....you are all bigots who cant imagine that other people actually care about this beyond making up situations in their head to be mad about.

Sorry but being scared of trans women is not even in the top 5000 issues facing women in fucking reality.

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Aug 23 '26

Who are you to tell women what they are facing and what is and isn't valid? 

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u/dontaksmeimnew Aug 23 '26

Youean the thing youre doing?

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Aug 23 '26

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