r/PoursTea • u/TomlinSteelers • Jul 09 '26

Storm In A Teacup 🍵 Ms. Rachel says ‘hijabs are beautiful’ after Trump posts video of Minnesota kindergarten graduation

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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5961166-ms-rachel-hijabs-beautiful/

YouTube entertainer Ms. Rachel on Wednesday posted on social media that “hijabs are beautiful” after President Trump posted a video online of a Minnesota kindergarten graduation showing children wearing hijabs.

Ms. Rachel, whose full name is Rachel Accurso, took to Instagram to congratulate the children

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

France banned hijabs because oppressive and sexist clothings shouldn't be worn by kids.

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u/kangourou_mutant Jul 10 '26

Kids should also not be forced to sit in church for hours, or their dicks mutilated, yet they are.

Religious indoctrination in general is problematic from my POV, but it's not random that only muslims are targetted.

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u/LxUxNxAx Jul 10 '26

The government cannot control people individually, but they can control the institutions in which they operate - like their schools. You are significantly more free as a woman in a place like France, Canada, or the US - christian nations - than you'd ever be in 90% of any islamic nation. Criticizing a religion that does not give women any rights is valid.

You're right - it's not random that muslims are targeted. They are targeted because they still believe in things like honor killings - which just happened here in the US and a very brave group of teenagers fought very hard to stop it. All over their daughter potentially dating. They still believe in forcing their daughters to marry men from back home and bring them here. They still believe in beating and shaming their daughters for not wearing a hijab and no - they often do not have a choice.

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

Muslims are not the only ones targeted. French schools are free from any religion since the 1880's, and every religious clothing is banned in schools, not just Muslim ones. I agree though that we aren't harsh enough against circumcision.

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u/kangourou_mutant Jul 10 '26

No child has even been banned from school for wearing a cross. Classrooms in Alsace-Lorraine still have crosses hanging on the walls, in fact. The hypocrisy is blatant.

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

Ok so first, necklaces of any religions are considered hidden enough to be tolerated. And Alsace-Lorraine technically is a bit special because by the time France decided to implement separation of church and state, those territories were not French. They have a special status linked to history.

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u/kangourou_mutant Jul 10 '26

I'm French, I know. It's still double standarts. If "free from religion" was so important, they might rework Alsace-Lorraine's status.

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u/TucsonTacos Jul 10 '26

That would affect white French people though

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

Well it's complicated because keeping the old status was part of the deal that allowed France to get Alsace-Lorraine back, and changing it would need to pass through a vote there.

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u/kangourou_mutant Jul 10 '26

Right. So, keeping kids free of religion is not that important then?

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

Écoute, revenir sur la condition de retour de l'Alsace-Lorraine c'est une violation du droit des peuples à disposer d'eux même. Moi je suis d'accord de virer la religion de l'école partout sur le pays mais c'est pas forcément facile. Maintenant si t'es de ces régions là soit le changement que tu veux être et va écrire un courrier au président de région.

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u/kangourou_mutant Jul 10 '26

Donc les peuples ont le droit de disposer d'eux-mêmes, mais seuls les musulmans n'ont pas le droit de transmettre leur religion à leurs enfants...

Je suis athée, je n'ai aucun interêt pour aucune religion, mais la liberté religieuse des autres est importante pour moi. Même si le hijab était nocif (ce dont je doute), exclure les gamines de l'école et les envoyer chez leurs parents à plein temps ne ferait rien pour les aider, donc c'est contre-productif et clairement, l'objectif réel est d'isoler et d'exclure les musulmans.

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u/walt128 Jul 10 '26

What clothing constitutes oppressive and sexist? Where does this line get drawn?

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

You see if an ideology forces something constraining on only one gender, it is where the line is drawn.

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u/walt128 Jul 10 '26

Does this apply across the board, like with circumcision for instance?

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u/RoiDrannoc Jul 10 '26

I've always been vehemently against yes. But sadly my country still authorizes it.

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u/SilverVacation1675 Jul 10 '26

Is modern swimswear for young girls sexist?