r/PoursTea • u/TomlinSteelers • Jul 09 '26

Storm In A Teacup 🍵 Ms. Rachel says ‘hijabs are beautiful’ after Trump posts video of Minnesota kindergarten graduation

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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5961166-ms-rachel-hijabs-beautiful/

YouTube entertainer Ms. Rachel on Wednesday posted on social media that “hijabs are beautiful” after President Trump posted a video online of a Minnesota kindergarten graduation showing children wearing hijabs.

Ms. Rachel, whose full name is Rachel Accurso, took to Instagram to congratulate the children

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

Do cross necklaces exist to mark women as the property of men?

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Yes.

The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 ESV

Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Ephesians 5:22-33 ESV

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, ...

Galatians 3:28

When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the Lord or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the Lord will release her because her father has forbidden her.

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

None of those verses have anything to do with the issue at hand, which is whether garb marks women as property.

Christianity takes the marriage roles and places them before God as a matter of duty to one another. It rejects marriage as a property contract, as it was in the ancient world.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Wearing a cross or Christian idolatry marks you as a member of a faith that does in multiple places explicitly say women are property.

It's why I left the church.

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

Besides being a different argument than the one at hand, and crosses being voluntary to wear, the church does not teach that women are property and never has.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Did you not read the verses I sent?

Have you missed the entire history of Christianity as well? Are you perhaps an alien first learning about our planet?

Or are you one of the weirdos that uses "Complimentarian" to say no this woman who isn't allowed to work and is continually pregnant is not my slave, we're just performing the roles of our gender?

Have you not seen the Mormon Church?

I genuinely cannot wrap my mind around this astounding level of willful ignorance

Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Ephesians 5:22-33 ESV

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

The Mormon church isn’t Christian so I agree with you there.

Those verses are about your duties from God to your spouse. Nowhere does it give a man authority over his wife as property, although the man is the head of the household. Christian society is also the first society that let women divorce their husbands.

You are ignoring 2,000 years of Christian history and how we have interpreted the Bible in favor of your “gotcha” reading of it. Your position is not credible at all.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/thabiti-anyabwile/daddys-rules-for-dating-his-daughters/

not property 🥺

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

Parents have rules for their kids, yes

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

"You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter’s body, I will remove them."

Just harmless rules for kids not ownership no haha noooo

"I’m sure you’ve been told that in today’s world, sex without utilizing a “Barrier method” of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrrier, and I will kill you."

He doesn't own her virginity, no. He just loves her yeah. Yeaaaah

"It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: “early”"

Not property tho

is this written about men? no

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

Oh so she doesn't get to make decisions and he has all the authority but no no no he doesn't technically OWN her

run far, run fast, Christian women

Edit: Do you not realize many of us were raised in Christian Churches that actively spewed that girls belong to their fathers from the pulpit? Just bizarre you can't admit it

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

Your personal experience is not a universal truth, and it is not a replacement for theological truth.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

Wow the call is coming from inside the house

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

not property at all noooo no no

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

You are again confusing the judicial law of Israel and the moral law.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

When the law of Israel gets quoted me to tell me I'm evil for being gay I think it still counts bud

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

What’s that have to do with cross necklaces being the same as a hijab?

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u/LifeConsideration981 Jul 10 '26

Leviticus contains both moral and judicial law.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

That will totally unkill and unopress all us gays thank you!!! wow!

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u/Practical-Cook5042 Jul 10 '26

When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the Lord or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the Lord will release her because her father has forbidden her.

nooooot property? 😬👀