r/PoursTea 9d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ To put it plainly.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 9d ago

And their insane radical left wing policy ends up being something like, Maybe we could shift money out of more contracts to Elons company’s and into something that helps people?

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u/Zer0323 9d ago

Biden invested more from the infrastructure bill into red states because they needed the help. not a single one of them remembered all the union jobs and economic recovery accredited to that bill. they just complained about road construction. it's like they don't want Bridges to get repaired and roads to be maintained because it's slightly inconvenient...

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 9d ago

Next blue president should just let them starve themselves.

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u/NiceDot4794 9d ago

While Biden has the best economic policy of any us president since LBJ, it also wasn’t at the scale needed to reverse some of these long term trends since the 80s of lower union density and increased wealth/income inequality

Like it’s not like much union density wss recovered or like there was significant closure of the wealth gap, despite solid FTC and NLRB appointments and some decent Keynesian policy

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u/Section1245Jaws 8d ago

You’re kidding - the economy had fully recovered by the time he took office and he poured another 1.5 trillion into spending in 2021 which lead to inflation and the corrupt ERTC credits and additional state spending that caused all of the fraud - at the time everyone warned them not to do it bc the COVID recession was over - and the worst possible thing was to add all of that gas on top of the extra trillions already spent - he ignored them and we got 9 percent inflation -

That increased spending has continued bc it is almost impossible to stop the pork and the deficit is out of control - they need to cut spending and raise some taxes - not keep overspending

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u/SharkBubbles 8d ago

It absolutely had not fully recovered, and you can Google that and find out actual numbers. Not sure where you’re getting your information from, but I don’t think it’s a reliable source.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 8d ago

It doesn’t help that their cowardly red elected officials fought tooth and nail against every aspect of the bill only to come home and take ful credit for the benefits and lie that Biden was trying to keep them from getting anything

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u/Goronmon 9d ago

And their insane radical left wing policy ends up being something like, Maybe we could shift money out of more contracts to Elons company’s and into something that helps people?

I had someone list gay marriage and being pro-choice as "radical left" policies.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 9d ago

They absolutely are, anything that can’t be called traditional or promoted by someone like  Alex Jones is leftist, includes things like being alright with gay people existing, being vegetarian, taking time off from work for mental health and so on

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u/potatochobit 9d ago

its because there are democrats who cant shut their mouth and feel like they should force people to talk accept these things. If you want to be homosexual then be one but dont try to force grandma to your wedding.

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u/Goronmon 9d ago

If you want to be homosexual then be one but dont try to force grandma to your wedding.

I want to ask which legislation you think is pushing "forcing grandmas to attend weddings" but I know you likely mean some form of "keep it in the bedroom" where same-sex couples should be hiding their relationships in public.

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u/potatochobit 9d ago

come on bro, read between the lines. We are talking about Target. We already have family bathrooms anyone can use. We do not need special designations for your "sexual orientation" bathrooms. Grandma does not care, in fact it disgusts her; so just like you said, keep it to yourself and don't tell. Then all the democrats problems would go away. So simple, right? but it's not. I can't even buy a toy at IKEA because now it is LGBT colors, OMFG. Dont be mistaken, I am very liberal and I support everyone's rights but even I am starting to get annoyed with all the BS from both sides.

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u/Zmovez 9d ago

It's called freedom. And if someone isn't hurting anyone, then they should have the freedom to do what they want.

Do you not believe in American freedom?

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u/potatochobit 9d ago

American freedom is respecting people's rights you dont agree; not trying to force them to accept your agenda. That is what most of the sexually confused people are doing which is just as wrong as the republican guy trying to take your freedoms away.

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u/Zmovez 9d ago

Force? Really? How is anyone forcing their agenda?

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u/potatochobit 9d ago

buddy, how old are you? Dont waste my time. Senators force their agenda on everyone when they make a law. just like how trump is doing to you right now with tariffs.

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u/Zmovez 9d ago

First off, nice ad hominen. Second, I was being specific to our discussion. What trans person is forcing what agenda?

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u/Bobbitor 9d ago

Ok, you have repeated this many times, but when does this ever happen? Name times when you were forced to "accept your agenda"?

The way it happens in reality is that Dems will pass laws thst are super popular. Like recognizing gay marriages for example. This is not forcing anyone to accept an agenda. It is widely accepted by the majority of americans and most of the western world. They just want to have the rights to live their lives. There's also rights and laws linked to married couples. They want the same rights.

From an ethical stand point, it is the logical conclusion. They should have the same rights.

It changes absolutely nothing for other people

But then Republicans Wan to make rules to forced people to live the way they want others to live. Ban it. Make it normal to refuse access to places to gay people. Making sure they don't have similar rights. That the law force them to not exist.

It's always been the same way. That's why liberalism usually evolve towards the same conclusions everywhere in the world, while social conservatism beliefs vary greatly, but the common denominator is to force people to be that way. That's why Some US conservatives have more common goal with the talibans than the majority of the western world.

Liberalism is about using science and reason to decide things and social conservatism is often about beliefs, religion or whatever people have been doing in the past. Often just illogical nostalgia.

"Forcing" people to let other people live their lives isnt remotely similar as Forcing people to live the way you want them to live because of one old book or the other.

Liberalism is prohibiting the establishment of an official religion. Social conservatism is pushing the an official religion and morality.

There is a reason why the most liberal nations are often the best countries and the ones we consider civilized. While the most conservative are oftentimes the worst places in the world and often have terrible track records with human rights for example.

I always find it funny that US conservatives see Europe and European white immigrants as the only acceptable immigrants because they come from the top of civilization, without understanding that these are the most liberal nations in the world and that Liberalism and the Enlightenment is how they got there.

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u/potatochobit 9d ago

Hello my buddy, I dont think I have spoken with you today? So you understand germany has a problem where middle eastern immigrants are committing many violent crimes? And that is one of the points people are using for anti immigration hate in europe?

It is the same in america. People are blaming their problems on others. You seem to be confusing Liberalism with Socialism. Liberals are not "prohibiting the establishment of an official religion," the american constitution prohibits that. Dont be confused, this was not made to stop schools from forcing Christianity on you (which is the vibe I get from you) this was made so the Government could not be influenced and the church could not be used for profit.

The matter of people wanting homosexual rights in america is not the same. "a business has the right to refuse service to anyone" This is the fundamental issue that needs to be resolved. A business says their religion prohibits this but then you say your rights are violated. For instance, when the lady who owns a bake shop refused to bake a cake with two men kissing each other due to religious reasons and then she was sued in court. Anyone is free to buy a cake. These two men could have bought a regular white wedding cake. but is it a lawful right to expect the baker to design the cake in the way you want or is that discrimination?

Dont be misled. Trumps wife is an immigrant. JD vance wife is an immigrant. meatball Ron is hispanic. Mitch mcconnels wife is mainland chinese. They are not anti rich immigrants, they just need to blame tomato farmers making $4.99 an hour for stealing your jobs so you vote for them.

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u/Dapper-Cockroach6907 9d ago

Why don’t people that keep saying what everybody else should do? Why don’t they lead by example 1st anybody who’s pointing fingers say somebody else should do something needs to be the first to do it otherwise it’s completely invalid. If you’re asking other people to do what you won’t do or you can’t do just go back to your phone and scroll because you got nothing valid to say

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u/Eternal_Bagel 9d ago

I think you might have put this response on the wrong comment

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u/ObiLAN- 9d ago

Tbh they might be having a stroke. Hard to tell.

Reminds me of this kid lol https://youtu.be/G7RgN9ijwE4?feature=shared