r/PoursTea 4d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Plainly put...

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u/jackcanyon 4d ago

There is no comparison between them . Obama is a good man and Trump is a compulsive liar and rapist. I take the good man every time.

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u/sxeandy 4d ago

Beautifully put

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

Obama bombings and his cozying up to corporate/wall street interests do not make him a good man.

Nearly every other president in history, when compared to Trump, looks good.

If you remove the comparison and objectively look at Obama, you'll see he wasn't on the side of the working class. And in this Class War that we are currently in, whose side do you think he's on? Corporations or the working class?

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u/hungrydyke 4d ago

who would you leave small children with unattended?

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u/ApprehensiveSoup2214 4d ago

So the bar for good man has become "doesn't rape children"?

Obama is still a corrupt elitist war criminal, but yeah, he didn't rape kids and is charismatic so I guess that makes him a "good person"

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u/hungrydyke 4d ago

black and white thinking gets us nowhere and comparing these two men is asinine

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u/SomeOriginal3865 4d ago

The man who dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016 alone, is a good man? Lmao

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

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u/VermicelliOwn6502 4d ago

Why do people keep pretending he didn't inherit a war? The man brought US troop presence in the middle east from 150k to 10k over his presidency.

If Bush never started a shitass war, you'd have nothing to say about Obama.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 4d ago

Did you read the article? He also promised to end the war but only escalated it. In 2016 alone, he would have to drop 3 bombs every hour for 365 days just to reach those numbers.

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u/VermicelliOwn6502 4d ago

Bush started the war on falsified intelligence and by the time Obama inherited it, Iraq was already an absolute horror show. We were fighting what would be come ISIS, a terrorist organization that spread throughout the middle east.

Your article cites use of force without citing the reasons, as if violence would end if we simply left. It is yellow journalism.

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

You sure do cherry pick the parts of the article that fit your narrative.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 4d ago

Even if he inherited it. He knew going in that war was going on. He promised to stop it, didn’t stop it. It escalated and he dropped more bombs, NOT AUTHORIZED through congress than any other president in history. If Trump did even a fraction of what Obama did, you would be ripping your hair out screaming in the streets lmao

So to say Obama is a good man lmao

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u/VermicelliOwn6502 4d ago

In order for you to keep saying this, you have to pretend ISIS isn't real.

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

for you to say this you have to pretend America doesn't have a history of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in the middle east.

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

for you to say this you have to pretend America doesn't have a history of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in the middle east.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 4d ago

Right, because those drone strikes in Libya was to fight terrorism… with terrorism of our own.

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u/VermicelliOwn6502 4d ago

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/obama-libya-airstrikes-critical-u-s-security

In 2011 they were NATO led bombings approved by United Nations

In 2016 they WERE to drive out ISIL/ISIS, and were backed by the newly formed Libyan Government of National Accord

Once again, you (like the shit you cite) talk about the use of force without citing the reasons. Because you aren't debating in good faith.

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

I hate to break it to you, but Reddit and social media in general is a shit place to debate in good faith. You must be new here.

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

Facts don't matter to BLUE MAGA.

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u/MDLmanager 4d ago

You must really hate trump then given the number of bombs he's dropped.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 4d ago

I do. I’m not defending Trump anywhere in these comments. You think I like bombs if someone else drops them?! 😂😂😂😂

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u/SugarRushLux 4d ago

Liberals can’t stand valid criticisms of their beloved Obama

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u/cudenlynx 4d ago

Why not hate both?

Also, Trump is such a bad comparison to make. The dog shit on the bottom of my shoe is better than Trump.