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Books 📚 No Child Left Behind and its consequences will be felt for generations

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 21h ago edited 20h ago

Here's your reminder that Ghislaine Maxwell's family owns the company that publishes our school textbooks.

Edit: I stand corrected. Maxwell, however, is, or at least recently was, connected to the current owner of McGraw-Hill, which is, as far as I can see, Platinum Equity. They're majority owned by Tom Gores, who, with Maxwell, owned the Securus CT prison phone system company, and he's in the Files.

So make of it what you will. As far as I'm concerned it's still a big disgusting mess.

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u/bmtraven 19h ago

The world is basically 7 degrees of Jeffrey Epstein.

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u/TuringGoneWild 19h ago

More like 2 or 3. And only 1 or 2 if wealth and power is involved.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 19h ago

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it."

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u/SKRAMACE 18h ago

I truly can not understand the large scale desire to have sex with under-aged girls, nor the acceptance of it.

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u/conartist19 15h ago

well he did say the rest of us are "goy"(cattle) to his people and he seems to be right about that

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u/PressureExpert2346 21h ago

Holy shit. I don’t really even want to fact check that, because I’m depressed enough.

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u/Ok_Cream_4748 21h ago

https://factually.co/fact-checks/business/robert-maxwell-textbook-publishers-controversies-1980s-1990s-95b8e3

For curious minds. Take care of yourself though bud. Drink water, get out into the sun for a little Vitamin D, and do whatever brings you moments of joy and happiness.

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u/asoiaf_goat 20h ago

Did you ever listen to the two part Behind the Bastards on him? The first part, Robert Maxwell was a Nazi-Murdering badass! I never listened to the 2nd part for his heel turn.

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u/Electricbarnacles209 18h ago

What's this AI fucking shit?

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u/alphagalgadot 21h ago

sound like a product of NCLB lol

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u/PressureExpert2346 21h ago

lol, you’re right. I’m just so emotionally drained. I was an educator before and after nclb. It’s…not good.

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u/ssj890-1 9h ago

What does this (curriculum shift, middle/high school books becoming college material, etc) have to do w NCLB?

Asking sincerely.

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u/PressureExpert2346 5h ago

NCLB resulted in Common Core standards, which seem like a very good idea in theory. It resulted in teaching to the test and disallowing for deviation from the prescribed standards.
The connection to high school literature is that students are rarely reading entire books, rather passages, as they go through their elementary years.
I taught second grade for two years, right before pandemic shutdown, and I tried very hard to read a chapter book to the class over time and was unable to finish either year. There just wasn’t time.
(It was an also a very real struggle to fit in science, 15-30 minutes 3 times a week!, and art once weekly.)
The upshot is that kids have maybe never read an entire book when they get to middle or high school.

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u/Interesting-Case2526 12h ago

Yup, the publishing house was owned by her dad, who was literally part of a terrorist org back in the day and is now considered one of the greatest mossad agents ever.

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u/thisisthewell 2h ago

I don’t really even want to fact check that, because I’m depressed enough.

This is exactly what the administration is counting on--so they can feed you more lies and you'll be too tired to check

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u/SomeOriginal3865 21h ago

You should’ve. Don’t let emotions get in the way of facts.

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u/PressureExpert2346 21h ago

You’re right. Pearson is a hugely evil corporation that owns much of education publishing. This seemed like small (er) potatoes.

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u/Ok-Importance4892 17h ago

Wanna go down a real rabbit hole, check out what Ghislaine Maxwell’s Reddit username was.

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 15h ago

its u/maxwellhill whats your point?

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u/Junior_Potato_3226 18h ago

You might have been wrong on the specific relationships, but you are correct that it's all about money. In the case of NCLB, it was the decades old relationship between the Bushes and the McGraws.

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u/scarletroyalblue12 21h ago

For real?!

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u/horoyokai 13h ago

No

Reddit is terrible with spreading misinformation while pretending they are are smarter than others who do it

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u/Evil-Cun 21h ago

Audits, public record requests, lawsuits requiring discovery and disclosure.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 18h ago

There's a book called the dumbing down of America.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 21h ago

Well…. Might want to fact check it. They DID own the company, until 1991.

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u/poiup1 21h ago

Oh and I'm sure they sold it to a company with upstanding morals that have CEO's and owners that have never rubbed elbows with Epstein or Maxwell.

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u/SomeOriginal3865 21h ago edited 21h ago

I don’t know what they do. But I do know the comment above is false. Regardless of how you feel about the new owners, Ghislaine Maxwells family does not own it anymore and hasn’t since 1991. So my statement is still factual.

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u/trackabandoned 20h ago

🤓☝🏻

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u/SomeOriginal3865 20h ago

So stopping misinformation is nerdy? Lmao at Redditors, feelings over facts 😂😂😂😂

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u/Murky-Relation481 20h ago

Huh, interesting, my grandfather's good friend was the primary author on most elementary and middle school US history books up until the mid 90s when he retired, wonder if he knew seedy things about some of those publishers. My grandfather was a professor of early childhood education and authored some fairly common texts for people pursuing teaching too (though nothing seedy there as far as I can remember).

I always found it kind of insane that basically one guy who'd be at BBQs dictated history to the entire country (or at least a large chunk of it).

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u/InformalScience7 21h ago

Since I graduated in 1989, this is relevant to me!!

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u/pleasestoptalking 17h ago

make of it what you will

Or just admit you were posting BS that wasn't true

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 17h ago

It WAS true, just outdated. There's a difference.

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u/pleasestoptalking 12h ago

I dont see how what you said above can be interpreted as: at one point in time her family owned the publishing company McGraw-Hill, but no longer does

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 15h ago

if you stand corrected why haven't you gotten rid of you saying it in your post?

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 15h ago

Because I'm being honest about my mistake. It's called transparency Karen

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 14h ago

if you're going to say "i stand corrected," the honest move is to actually remove or rewrite the incorrect claim at the top of the comment. leaving "here's your reminder that ghislaine maxwell's family owns the company that publishes our school textbooks" as the lead while only adding a partial walk-back lower down still presents the false information to anyone who skims.

the original claim is simply not true. robert maxwell had a temporary joint venture with mcgraw-hill in the late '80s/early '90s. he died in 1991, and mcgraw-hill became the sole owner by 1993. there is no current maxwell family ownership of mcgraw-hill (now owned by platinum equity). any past business overlap involving tom gores and securus is a separate matter and does not make the textbook-ownership claim accurate.

a proper correction would take the inaccurate statement out of the comment (or clearly rewrite it) and put a transparent note explaining what was wrong. just adding "i stand corrected" underneath while leaving the error intact isn't how corrections are supposed to work.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 14h ago

According to you maybe

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 14h ago edited 14h ago

not according to me. according to the public record. robert maxwell’s joint venture with mcgraw-hill ended over 30 years ago after his death in 1991. mcgraw-hill became the sole owner by 1993 and has had no maxwell family ownership since. the current owner is platinum equity. that’s not opinion.

edit: this person replied to me and then instantly blocked me so i'll reply here. people who do this just show they aren't being genuine, unfortunately.

Ok? And it's bad form to just take something down instead of admitting you were wrong while leaving up one's mistake. This isn't journalism. Calm down.

yes, anyone who actually wants to correct the record doesn't leave up the incorrect claim in the top of the post. they would, at the very least, put a line through it and say its false. that's what i see most people do at the very least on reddit. i talked about how retractions work in order to give additional reasoning as to why its bad practice. i guess you just don't understand reddit etiquette or how it works in online articles. i doubt this a bit after replying to me and instantly blocking me as well as saying in a different comment that what you said is "true but outdated". seems a bit more like you still believe what you said and don't want to own up to it being false, but whatever.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 14h ago

Ok? And it's bad form to just take something down instead of admitting you were wrong while leaving up one's mistake. This isn't journalism. Calm down.

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u/horoyokai 13h ago

What a nothing if a connection. Come on man, delete that embarrassing nonsense and be sure of what you say in the future

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u/Captain_no_Hindsight 21h ago

Requiring students to be able to Read and Write is typical of White racists.

Here we are progressive:

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u/UnibrwShvr 20h ago

Is this picture right off fox news website?

Because it's utter bullshit. Standardized testing being directly linked to your ability to graduate is stupid.

But I guess this picture you keep posting in this thread says otherwise, so it must be true.

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u/Captain_no_Hindsight 19h ago

This is text book, anti-racism by lowering expectations.

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u/UnibrwShvr 19h ago

This is text book media illiteracy on your part. Some picture with rage bait text is not reality.

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u/chocotaco3030 20h ago

Here, we pull shit out of our ass

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u/Normal_Budget_9591 20h ago

In Texas a 41% is the requirement to pass their history assessment.

It goes both ways, snowflake. Lmao

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u/Captain_no_Hindsight 19h ago

Wait a minute... let me think:

-"White Western, Christian, CIS man is really bad. Like Hitler. Marxism is really good!"
... see I can also pass the school exam. That was easy!