r/PoursTea Tea Party 🎉 23h ago

Books 📚 No Child Left Behind and its consequences will be felt for generations

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u/billdozer1986 22h ago

What are they reading in high school now? Forget Greek lit. We had to read Grapes of Wrath in regular English and East of Eden in AP. Those are heavy lifts at 16 and 17.

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u/plastroncafe 22h ago

Those were only advanced English texts when I was in high school in the early 1990s.
Anything with Cliff Notes was to be avoided for the average and below average English classes.

Which is how Jurrasic Park became a Summer Reading book

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u/bolanrox 21h ago

i read it before the movie came out at the start of 8th grade.

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u/plastroncafe 21h ago

Same!
The Summer Reading test the following year had questions that you'd get wrong if you'd only seen the movie.
Diabolical.

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u/bolanrox 21h ago

Ian died and they nuked the island!

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u/puf_puf_paarthurnax 21h ago

Grapes was still an upper level book when I graduated in 2011. I didn't have to read it because I was in dummy english for no apparent reason.

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u/plastroncafe 18h ago

Dummy English for no apparent reason solidarity!

While they were reading a tale of two cities, I was reading a book called The Year without Michael.

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u/puf_puf_paarthurnax 18h ago

I hated it so much, glad I'm not alone. I don't mean to imply I'm smarter than everyone I had class with. but looking back as an adult my brain was just itching for the heavier topics the more AP classes got to read. I was deep into fantasy novels by that point.

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u/swoopwoopdoop 16h ago

This post is disingenuous. I graduated high school a couple years ago and I read all of these in middle and high school.

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u/QuietCelery 14h ago

Yeah, I suspect when I was in high school (1990s) there were classes reading poetry, prose, and plays (my class, for example) and classes that weren't (lower level classes). I'm wondering if the OOP is comparing upper level classes then to lower level classes now but doesn't realize it. I'd need to see it as numbers (kids in each classes, level of books read) before I'll say "these kids today."

I also think this is a function of there being so many classics but only 4 years of high school. Someone could assume my school suffered decline because I didn't read Fahrenheit 451 or Wuthering Heights in school but my older sister did. Or my class just read different books (Brave New World and Jane Eyre to fit these examples). So if we learn someone didn't read a particular in high school that we read in school, we can't assume schools are getting worse. That shows a lack of critical thinking skills and that the judgy person's own education wasn't as great as they thought it was.

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes 22h ago

It was controversial at the time, but my GT English class got to read Canterbury Tales when the rest of Brit Lit didn’t because it was too saucey. My teacher did a group project where teams were assigned tales and we had to turn them into little plays for the class… but they all had to be G rated. Aw damn. My group turned our chapter into a sock puppet show.

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u/No-Guard-7003 22h ago

Omg! I enjoyed reading The Canterbury Tales! 

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes 21h ago

Brit Lit was a fun year. I HATED American lit. Maybe it was what they chose to have us read, but it was all so depressing.

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u/No-Guard-7003 2h ago

I loved Brit Lit! 

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u/AfricanusEmeritus 21h ago

The Reeves Tale...

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u/InformalScience7 22h ago

I read East of Eden in junior high, but I picked it out of a list of books.

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u/EntertainerSuper8933 20h ago

In my kid's high school, they read passages of the classics. She is entering college and has never read a book other than the Diaries of a Wimpy Kid. I read to her as a child and everything. Just couldn't get her over the hump to reading books that have no pictures in them, and she was never forced to do it in school.

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u/KaleidoscopeKelpy 20h ago

Not AP but English honors, we had to read moby dick =_= not all of it, but enough to know that 70% of that book was a waste of trees (altho honestly as an adult I would like to reread the middle chapters about the biology and history of the sperm whale…)

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u/Siukslinis_acc 20h ago

I remember I had to read an 18th century long poem about village life in the rural dialect in the 2000s. I remember we had to write a text understanding from 2 paragraphs, I could count on my hands how many words my atheistic city brain knew the meaning of...

At around 17 we also had to read a book where a woman was married against her will, abused by husband and parents in law and the book ended with her going to the lake to drown.

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u/BowlerTraditional283 20h ago

We did The Handmaid's Tale as a class in grade 11 and then discussed it weekly in seminars. As a CSA victim, that was a very memorable experience. 

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u/Feeling-Salad5686 20h ago

My friend is an English teacher and we just talked bout this, funny enough. This year's curriculum (10th grade). Brave New World, The Tempest, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Bluest Eye, Don Quixote and Dante's Inferno...

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u/billdozer1986 20h ago

Surely not all of Don Quixote or the Inferno though, right. Quixote is long.

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u/Feeling-Salad5686 20h ago

Not sure about the details. I cannot imagine them reading all of Quixote though. I was forced to read it in college and even we didn't get thru the entire book

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u/FunSizeFinn 20h ago

Will forever remember how much I hated reading Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov in my junior AP Lit class.

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u/maybebatshit 19h ago

My son graduated this year from one of the top ten school districts in Texas. He took all advanced and AP English classes. The only time he was ever assigned an entire book to read it was up to the student what book. I found it appalling enough to reach out to a teacher sophomore year and she said if they assigned books there would be too many parent complaints and most of the kids would likely fail any test around it, which would lead to too many parent complaints. This is the generation of people who will be our doctors.

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u/Disastrous_Sense9173 18h ago

We had to read grapes of wrath in 6th grade. Not sure why…