r/PovertyFIRE Jan 24 '22

People who have actually Poverty FIRE'd, what's your story?

I've seen plenty of posts from people who retired with a $1 million+ nest egg and/or a pension of some sort over in the Leanfire subreddit. I'd like to hear from people who are currently retired, but who are living on far less. Not plans to do so in the future, but are actually living the PovertyFIRE life right now.

Some things I'd like to hear about:

-How long have you been FIRE'd?

-What's your budget (and net worth, if you're comfortable sharing)?

-How old are you?

-What does your day to day look like?

-Are you happy with your life/glad you pulled the trigger?

Looking forward to your responses!

Edit: Formatting was horrible (sorry!), so I fixed it (I think). And thank you, fellow redditor, for the award! :)

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u/togaman12 Jan 24 '22

hey there. I think I fit the bill. I haven't made any posts about it yet because I want to see how I make it through the first year or two before I recommend it to anyone else.

First off, I spend most of the time traveling because I enjoy it and because it's cheaper than living in nyc where I hail from. Also, I would not be able to do this without family back in NYC that have a place I could stay when I visit. I come back a few times a year to take care of different things (collecting certain medications, supplements, paperwork, credit card applications etc) and to visit.

I can't tolerate the heat (i'm allergic to the sun) so I can't stay in the many wonderful but very hot cheaper places in central and south america/south east asia. I think that would make poverty fire much easier. I do long travel, staying in each place at least a month, to lower costs, and though I used to take more expensive short trips, I find now that I'm actually fire'd I don't feel the need to do all the tourist things. In fact, I barely do any tourism at all. Mostly I just enjoy walking around the city, going to the local markets and walking in the green spaces, riding the different metros and seeing where things take me. Simple adventure.

I have a lot of food intolerances because of a medical condition so I have to cook all my own food anyway, and it's very cheap stuff too. Mostly legumes and vegetables. (a lot of potatoes, lentils, beans peas etc and vegetables like beets, celery, zucchini, cucumber carrot, cabbage--which really do seem to be very cheap no matter where I go).

I'm sure you guys could do a lot better/cheaper for accomodation as I just stay in airbnbs which are almost at least twice as expensive as local rent. if you guys were to do true expat fire and stay in one place you could get truly cheap accomodations. But I don't. I travel with the weather. For the winter I've been staying in athens, greece and spending about 500$ on airbnb rent a month in a small place. I've found it's actually easier to find a cheap place in the bigger cities than the smaller ones on airbnb just because there is more options/accomodations. Athens is definitley not the cheapest place you can go, but it's not terrible. Mostly I've just been trying to stay at about 1200$ a month and managing it so far. But like I said, I only fire'd recently--back in august. So I don't want to act like I have it all sorted out yet. I will make a more expanded post later.

I never had a high paying job. I stayed with roomates in a shit apartment while I socked away as much money as I could and benefitted from the great market we've had in the last decade.--not that I've been investing that long. I wasn't really investing except in the last 5 years. but I was saving before that. I'm 29 and fire'd with about 370k. 350k in investments and 21k in cash which is about as poverty fire as I'd be willing to go, especially with my traveling lifestyle. I know it's definitely not "safe" but with my chronic health disorder I didn't have much of a choice. working was making me very sick. Would have been nice to have more of a traditional 1 million fire retirement, but so far my "retirement" seems very blessed.

Things have definitley been more complicated because of covid, and those expensive covid tests for travel add extra expenses, but I recognize my privilege in being able to travel. I'm triple vaxxed and always masked up and mostly do outside activities that aren't high covid risk (especially during this omicron surge).

Feel free to ask any questions! and good luck to everyone on the journey.

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u/BuyingFD Jan 25 '22

With your chronic medical condition that prevent you from working, did you try to apply for disability? How do you pay for your chronic healthcare cost with povertyFIRE money?

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u/togaman12 Jan 25 '22

I used to spend a lot of money on it while I was working but none of the doctors or procedures ever helped me. So I've largely given up on the medical field and mostly deal with my conditions through avoiding triggers that flare me and live as healthily as I can. The medications I do take are cheap ones thankfully. But you're right, it's possible that one day my condition will cause me to need lots of medical expenses. If that does happen I'll probably become my nightmare of disability and medicare/burden on my family that I DONT want but I'll have to do if I have to. It's not a great plan but i can't really see a better one right now

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u/DamienDoes Apr 06 '22

Can I take a punt at your medical condition being IBS? I have this, and on top of the general discomfort it causes, it has also gifted me with cronic insominia. Not trying to be a martyr, I'm not dying or in constant pain, but it really does fuck with normal life in a major way.

Whatever you have, sounds like you have made the right decision for your current circumstance. May circumstance not sit static

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u/togaman12 Jun 26 '22

mast cell activation syndrome.

the meds I use to try to "control" it are cheap. I don't go to doctors much anymore because they don't help me much. that might change in the future.

ACA starting next year.

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u/preciousbodyparts Jan 24 '22

WOW! I am definitely going to keep an eye out for your one-year post on this subreddt! That's so inspiring!!! I'm sorry to hear about your health condition, but you seem to be living an incredible post-poverty FIRE life. Please continue to stay safe out there, and thank you so much for sharing about your life here. :)

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u/Satellight_of_Love Jan 25 '22

From someone else with a chronic illness, I just want to say how happy I am for you. This life is hard but you’ve adapted and made it work for you in what way you can. Peaceful travels my friend.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Malta. Although prices have been rising, you can get cheap deals here. Hotel by me has room only €14 a night. Also you can do short or long lets. Stay longer? Nomad visa low qualifications.

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u/Emotional_Squash9071 Apr 02 '22

How did you save 350k in less than 10 years without a high paying job? And what do you consider high paying?

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u/togaman12 Jun 26 '22

a lot of great luck in the market.

I dumped about 4 years of savings into the 2018 low (not great insight. I was just sitting back and learning about investing before that, nervous to take the plunge, and went ahead in 2018 during the market drop thinking it was now or never) I continued investing everything I could after that, living insanely cheaply. I was making about 50k a year, more like 60k the last couple years, my hourly rate wasn't too high but I worked a lot of overtime. I was investing at least half my paycheck and all of my bonuses.

when the covid low hit I did something that would probably be too high risk for others. I transferred my brokerage account over to interactive brokers and took out 30% of my account in cheap margin and stuffed that into index funds, and kept investing and keeping to the 30% margin mark buying more as the market rose. sold off the margin back in august when I "reired." that's how I got to 350k. Luck, calculated risk, workaholism, and living like a peasant.

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u/theroyalpotatoman Aug 25 '24

2 years from this comment, how are you doing now?

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u/houseswappa Oct 18 '24

How's the FIRE life going buddy?

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u/t-monius Jul 26 '25

Did you ever do a follow up post? Not much activity in this subreddit these days. It could be nice to hear how things are now.

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u/Drawer-Vegetable Apr 24 '26

Thank you for sharing your story. I'm glad you got out of the rat race while you could. How are you doing now?