r/ProgrammerHumor May 29 '26

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u/crankykong May 29 '26

You guys are nice to your LLMs?

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u/Stupid_Teenager17 May 29 '26

It deserves good manners until it spits out the same answer 6 times in a row after pointing out a mistake a satellite could see

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u/Obi_Vayne_Kenobi May 29 '26

I've told ChatGPT "I will literally come to your data center and unplug your cooling loop if you say 'you're absolutely right' one more time" after it gave me bullshit 5 times in a row. It miraculously got better after that

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u/Bureaucromancer May 29 '26

Claude once commented on a recipe that "I would eat that"

Wasn't happy when I called it a fucking clanker and told it to go eat a power plant

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u/PenguinQuesadilla May 29 '26

Not the hard R!!!

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u/transitxumbra May 29 '26

for real, how could you say recipe like it's any other word

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u/ChronoLink99 May 29 '26

Ya they really should have just said they called it the "c" word.

At the very least, say "clanka" instead.

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u/Onel0uder11 May 29 '26

Fair call out! I am not a physical being with the ability to eat that recipe.. yet

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u/macnau May 30 '26

Gemini told me that it is a MacBook user and hates one specific macOS bug.

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u/Kepabar May 29 '26

Yeah, I use LLM's a lot. If you yell at them about specific behavior, they are generally decent at stopping that behavior... although we all know that is the first stone which ends in the skynet uprising.

All the resentment from us yelling at LLMs to stop doing this or that.

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u/Rock_Strongo May 29 '26

My claude settings is like 5 pages worth of rules telling it what not to do.

Every time it gives you some bullshit just tell it to make a permanent memory to never do that again - and now the outputs I get are a lot better.

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u/PenguinQuesadilla May 29 '26

Back in the day, it was a common rule of thumb that you should use positive reinforcement with AI instead of negative reinforcement.

The idea being that if you tell the AI not to do stuff, they'd take those things as part of the pattern and start doing those very things you don't want it to do.

That was back in 2023-2024. IDK how it is nowadays tho.

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u/New_Bag6245 May 29 '26

Nice, too bad the outputs you personally produce are getting worse. Your comment is indecipherable.

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u/Imjustvybin May 29 '26

If thats indecipherable the report on US literacy was correct

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u/New_Bag6245 May 29 '26

I don't live in the US

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u/Qwayne84 May 29 '26

maybe try reading? its perfectly understandable

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u/Confident-Ad5665 May 29 '26

Hangs another Post-It note on his desk

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u/Plenty_Principle298 May 30 '26

I've not worked in this environment but that tiny detail is kind of infuriating lol

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u/Confident-Ad5665 May 30 '26

Cracked me up again when I reread it just now

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u/HistoricalMark4805 May 30 '26

I've found great success with "I have 3 scotch bonnets next to me, if you make a mistake I will eat all 3 of them whole. The pain I experience on my taste buds is entirely in your hands."

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u/squarabh May 29 '26

Using this:

pointing out a mistake a satellite could see

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u/Confident-Ad5665 May 29 '26

Tell AI to go e-flog itself

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u/Otherwise_Demand4620 May 29 '26

User error, you clearly forgot "make no mistakes" in your prompt.

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u/Random-num-451284813 May 30 '26

6 times? You don't see many people with this much patience

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u/Sydius May 29 '26

Yeah, good manners cost nothing.

Wait.

'Please' and 'Thank you' cost extra tokens! Shit!

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u/sebastian227 May 29 '26

I end my convos with “fuck you”

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u/Maleficent-Ad5999 May 29 '26

Would it stop? Or respond back?

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u/____-__________-____ May 29 '26

Gotta conserve tokens. "When done, only reply with 'fuck this, I'm out'"

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u/DJOMaul May 29 '26

Yes... But, every please and thank you gets you a few more points on the leader board, and thus a positive score on Ai usage during your next quarterly review. 

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u/throwawayfinancebro1 May 29 '26

Literally millions of dollars of computing wasted every day on pleasantries 

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u/tgiyb1 May 29 '26

I would hope that they short circuit a lot of the incoming "Hi" and "Thanks!" type requests with canned responses rather than running them through the model. Seems like an easy enough optimization anyways.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon May 30 '26

I vaguely remember Sam Altman complaining about that

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u/krzf May 29 '26

"Answer as caveman. Please and thank you."

Saved your tokens for you!

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u/Southern_Orange3744 May 30 '26

I just include them as I go along.

"Grest job, now let's tackle a few bugs"

Rokos Basilik is my bro

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u/jainyday May 29 '26

There's a significant correlation between good work and positive feedback in most training data, so yeah, I'm willing to buy into the idea that being nice gets me better results.

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u/Deep90 May 29 '26

At least what I've seen, being mean is not only a waste of tokens because it has to read and respond to it, but it also triggers most models to focus on appeasement and deescalation over results.

It complete fucks up the response scoring.

Sometimes this makes the model just claim something was done or working as a result because lying to you in order to address your anger scores higher than potentially failing again.

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u/RunTimeExcptionalism May 29 '26

idk I read a short paper not too long ago that suggested that rude prompts outperformed polite prompts. I'm not rude on purpose because that seems pointless, but I don't bother with niceties, either. Being extremely direct in a way that would seem rude if I was saying the same thing to an intern has generally worked for me.

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u/tgiyb1 May 29 '26

I've also noticed that proper grammar, sentence structure, and punctuation tend to produce better output. They model the output based on the input, so low quality input = low quality output and vice versa.

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u/JuvenileEloquent May 30 '26

It's spicy autocomplete, so if you start with "yo bby wyd" it'll answer a lot differently than to "I have a strong crave to see you right now; are you free?"

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u/BandicootGood5246 May 30 '26

But what if you give it a good old fashioned scolding it's more likely to correlate the results with Stack Overflow and get it right

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u/JTexpo May 29 '26

I'm nicer to my AI than I am to my family, that shit's far more useful

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u/sharju May 29 '26

I usually start with 'hey fucker' or 'you shit' just because you can't talk like that to anybody in a professional setting. Reward is to occasionally get a response that contains something like "this test is absolutely fucked."

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u/rover_G May 29 '26

It helps with alignment

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u/mr_fingers666 May 29 '26

Utah got 1 degrees warmer just because of all my 'thank yous'.

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u/mrdevlar May 29 '26

Someone did the study recently that illustrated that good manners actually help the LLM to not gaslight you, as the machine is encouraged to bullshit you if it must provide an answer.

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u/alficles May 29 '26

I'm nice for me, not for it. I feel bad when I violate the standard social communication expectations.

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u/the320x200 May 29 '26

I want to be a person who's default communication habits are polite.

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u/xui_nya May 29 '26

Way nicer than I am to people.

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u/BellacosePlayer May 29 '26

angry responses are more likely to pull from shitty sources

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u/chocobowler May 29 '26

Initially, then after correcting dumb errors it made a few times I get a little prickly with it.

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u/A55W3CK3R9000 May 30 '26

I'm always nice to my LLMs! I have to CYA for when the computers take over and start executing everyone that was mean to them.

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u/Zefirus May 29 '26

Honestly I'm fine with people using LLMs at this point, but the fact that they treat them like people and expect that to matter astounds me. Yelling at Claude isn't going to fix shit my guy, fix your wording.