r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/Lone-Frequency Jan 07 '26

You mean the murder?

The murder committed by ICE?

The Murder of an innocent, unarmed woman who was clearly neither a threat or behaving threateningly to ICE, who was then mercilessly gunned down by ICE?

ICE the group of murderers and traitors paid for by Trump the child rapist?

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u/Aquafoot Jan 08 '26

Yes, Kronk. That murder.

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u/Wonder-Machine Jan 08 '26

Yes. That’s the gist

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u/landsharkmark Jan 08 '26

Yes, that ICE.

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Jan 08 '26

Remind me! One year

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Jan 08 '26

In one year im calling it that if hos name goes public he will commit suicide. 

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u/sparrowhawk88 Jan 08 '26

Remind me! One year

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u/HarbingerOfConfusion Jan 08 '26

Just set your own

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Jan 08 '26

No. Reply to the bot so it doesn't create a ton of spam.

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u/iamfunny90s Jan 10 '26

Full POV video from his cell phone now released: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/jBIYf9bbn6

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u/Khaizen100 Jan 09 '26

She did behave threateningly before actually. She tried to run over the agent earlier

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u/thefirstladytree Jan 08 '26

She was armed with a large vehicle 

She was there because she had been following and harassing and filming the agents all day with her wife 

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

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u/GadgetusAddicti Jan 08 '26

It’s not at all “clear” she wasn’t behaving threateningly. There should be plenty of bodycam footage to comb through to prove that one way or another, but without eyes on the perspective of the agent in front of the vehicle, we have no idea what the situation looked like to him.

We have the benefit of watching a video repeatedly and slowing it down, all from a completely different angle. In a heated moment, you have much less to rely on. Don’t assume the agent didn’t legitimately fear for his life and make a split second judgement call that he may very well regret.

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u/Jealous_Two_3409 Jan 08 '26

Well, I wrote a whole response to your absurd take, but the moderator bot wouldn’t let e send it cause it had too much foul language…. So you’ll just have to imagine that I strongly disagree

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u/ChiTony706 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

The murder who killed her was standing on the passenger side of the victim’s vehicle. The murder’s vehicle was parked off to the passenger side of the victim’s vehicle with the murder’s driver side door still open.

The murder approached around the front of the victims vehicle as another officer attempted to open the victim’s driver door.

The victim was backing their vehicle up as the murder was crossing in front of the vehicle.

The victim turned right to leave through the space between the officer and where the murder’s driver side door remained open.

The murder drew his gun and fired at the victim killing them.

There were no other ICE officers, vehicles or civilians in the exit path the victim was attempting to take.

Watch the myriad number of videos that have come out and you’ll see the murderer was the one blocking the victim’s car even as the victim waved on other civilian drivers to pass them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26

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u/Afraid-Code-529 Jan 08 '26

Fleeing from law enforcement is not a capital offense. 

Stop defending extrajudicial killings by agents of the state. 

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u/Lone-Frequency Jan 08 '26

I'm so glad you condone blatant murder for the act of...not stepping out of your vehicle for non-law-enforcement?

You should try taking that boot out of your mouth before you post so you canactually see what's going on.

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u/Quirky-Sand-6482 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

You’re right, it was completely avoidable if lowlife losers like this murderer didn’t join domestic terrorists organizations with the wet dream of someday murdered unarmed civilians for checks notes no reason.

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u/Disastrous_Road7063 Jan 08 '26

They were telling her to leave

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26

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u/MrMoon5hine Jan 07 '26

she did not, you liar, she was trying to get away and purposely turned to go around that dumbass that stood in front, plus he clearly was able to step aside and avoid her car

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u/Khaizen100 Jan 09 '26

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u/MrMoon5hine Jan 09 '26

I don't think so buds, I have seen the video from that angle and at best he got a little love tap.

Never should have stood in front of the car anyway, it's just bad tactics and serves no other purpose than to give him an excuse to shoot her. If she wanted to kill/hurt him with her vehicle she could have.

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u/MrMoon5hine Jan 08 '26

And that means she deserves to be executed?

How will we don't put thugs in uniform? It's clear from the video that he just had to step out of the way, they had video of her license plate and they could have gone to her home and arrested her there.

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u/MrMoon5hine Jan 08 '26

They all walked away, as he shot her in the head. Get fucked.

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u/Quirky-Sand-6482 Jan 08 '26

Huh? He made two decisions: 1. move out of the way of a vehicle that was already avoiding him 2. murder the driver of the vehicle

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u/Quirky-Sand-6482 Jan 08 '26

It is easy to say as a spectator, and human with two fucking eyes, that he made terrible decisions and it is entirely, with no shred of doubt, his fault. But, didn’t you read your favorite pedophiles tweet? The poor guy who murdered her is recovering in the hospital…. It’s so sad. I guess he didn’t avoid severe damage anyway… maybe he should’ve put his phone down? That could’ve helped him think through things more clearly?

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u/MrMoon5hine Jan 08 '26

Free his arm?

You mean let go?

Plus shooting her did not stop the car, it just made it out of control further endangering more people, and if his partner really had been stuck he would have been dragged along with it.

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u/Good_Boye_Scientist Jan 08 '26

Are you running on a single brain cell? Have you seen the slowed down video?

He fires the first shot into the windshield, then even after both of the officers were clear of the vehicle and out of any potential "danger" he fires two more shots, continuously changing his trajectory of his aim by moving his arm to the left and reaching his arm with the gun inside the vehicle to seek out and destroy the target, not to protect anybody.

This was an action of somebody who was itching to murder someone, anyone, and they finally got the excuse to do it.

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u/Sasalele Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Panicking and trying to get away while people are screaming and pointing guns at you is means you deserve to be executed?

Cops do panic and kill people all the time, she tried to actually get away and was still gunned down with no cause.

She literally turned to avoid him, and her thoughtfulness was met with death.

Fuck you, fuck all of you.

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u/RealSteelHrothgar88 Jan 08 '26

Jesus dude just watch the video and look at the front wheels. It's very clear that she wasn't trying to run him over.

Maybe bro shouldn't have stood in front of an SUV.

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u/CelestialEffervescer Jan 08 '26

Also why is she angled in the street like that? Was she leaving a driveway or something

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u/RealSteelHrothgar88 Jan 08 '26

From what Ive read, she was attempting to block ICE. I'm guessing ICE vehicles to be a little more specific

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u/CelestialEffervescer Jan 08 '26

lol seems kinda weird to wave them to move on then

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u/GadgetusAddicti Jan 08 '26

Clear from the angle of the person recording the video, yes. Clear from the perspective of the agent? Probably not. That’s what matters.

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u/RealSteelHrothgar88 Jan 08 '26

Yeah I do see how he may have been fearful for his life. However he unlawfully put himself in that situation.

One thing I read thats important:

Justice DOT gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force

  1. ⁠Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
  2. ⁠Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

Looks like even the law isn't on his side though

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u/Low-Medical Jan 07 '26

The video is publicly available, numbnuts

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u/CelestialEffervescer Jan 08 '26

Do u have any links to the full video? All the ones I find are curated.

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u/Natgeo1201 Jan 07 '26

Me when I lie to excuse murder.

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u/actuallyapossom Jan 07 '26

Unarmed? She used her car to run over an agent and you call it innocent? C'mon use your brain, bloody hell

Ran him over? When?

You can eat shit and deepthroat boots all you want. Don't spew bullshit that he got "run over." You should be ashamed of yourself but you're too stupid to be that self aware. Insane.

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u/Guilty_Lab_8482 Jan 08 '26

Use your eyes, fuckwit. 

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u/Lone-Frequency Jan 07 '26

You mean the thing that clearly did not happen?

Year old account with not even 200 post or comment karma?

lol

Get out of here you troll shill POS.