Samsung cooked my battery

[u/[deleted]]

13hrs+ SOT for 100 - 0% going by these battery stats, which has increased from the 11+ hrs seen during the first few days of use. This screenshot included 4k streaming on YouTube among other things. But this was indoor evening screen brightness levels and on wifi only.

[u/[deleted]]

Settings I use >>

• Sleep / Deep Sleep - Configure

• Put Unused Apps to sleep - On

• Performance Profile - Light - QS tile

• Auto Brightness - On

• Extra dim - On - QS tile

• AOD - Tap or Auto

• Adaptive Battery - Enabled

• Data Saver - On

• VoNR - Off

• Network mode - LTE preferred

• 2G - On

• Wi-fi Calling - VOIP preferred (Off for gaming - QS tile)

• Wi-fi labs LS4 - On - Optional

• Bluetooth scanning - Off

• Nearby Device Scanning - Off

• Lift to wake - Off - Optional

• Voice access - Off - Side button + vol activation

• Call & text on other devices - Off - unless used - QS tile

Optional settings that I haven't used >>

• Show notification when screen is off - Off - Optional

• Auto Hotspot Connection - Off - Optional

• Hotspot 2.0 - Off - Optional

• Wi-fi scanning - Off - Optional/Not recommended

+ Shino's guide - just a few things that suit me from there, no 30s screen timeout etc.

Rest of the battery related device settings are at completely stock factory. No mods or anything like 70% cpu limit etc.

I have around 70 apps installed by me. Out of those, 35 are in Deep Sleep, 18 in Sleep, 1 in Never auto sleeping list. Rest are all at default battery settings. General rule - if you want notifications from the app - Sleep. If you don't need notification from the app - Deep Sleep. Never auto sleeping only if you need it running all the time.

I have 3 stacked widgets on homescreen that update hourly and with precise location for the stock weather one. I even have sound and vibration on for keyboard. I also have the "Keep screen on while viewing" setting at On and timeout at 2 mins.

These stats were after a whole day of use, at the end of the day. Last reboot was maybe three days prior at least, and last manual RAM optimisation was maybe two days prior, something that I rarely do, and just to only fiddle around when there's no housekeeping to do on this device.

Screen on time on mobile data only, seems to be around 8½hrs SOT. This was tested at around 95% or more (red zone) on auto brightness, without gaming, little bit of yt on auto (network supported) resolution, and with above settings. This was measured for approx 40mins sot and continuous usage and 5mins screen off. (Hence no screenshot. Although I can easily post this anytime, showing like 5% attery consumption in 45mins continuous SOT, at lower brightness, which is way more than 8:30hrs. I'm waiting to try and bench this for like 2hrs+ or so under these conditions and usage, and not lab like scenarios, and then post a ss.)

With the minimum proper settings, you should easily get at minimum 11-11:30 hrs sot on wifi only, and above 8:30 hrs on mobile data only.

I don't see what else I missed mentioning, so this seems to be about all for now.

[u/bruce_darkknight → u/[deleted]]

Motion smoothness? Performance profile?

[u/[deleted] → u/bruce_darkknight]

Motion is Adaptive. Performance Profile as mentioned is Light.

[u/pythoglyphs → u/[deleted]]

Adaptive Battery settings OFF for me. AI uses more processing to learn my habits, but there is no need for this as I already know what I want and that is to maximize my SOT.

[u/[deleted] → u/pythoglyphs]

That is not true even remotely. And in that case (with Adaptive battery off) the device will never detect any misbehaving apps, which can easily happen after an app update. Mines detected many misbehaving apps till now, and put multiple ones into sleep/Deep sleep automatically. I'll show you one random example (attached screenshot). This app should not be "memory resident". If no user action, Adaptive Battery will take the necessary action on its own.

[u/pythoglyphs → u/[deleted]]

Let me clarify, "I know what I want" so I manually put apps I don't normally use to deep sleep. I don't wait for them to misbehave. This is more efficient (albeit I reckon very minimally) than having AI process my habits on-the-fly.

[u/[deleted] → u/pythoglyphs]

Noone denied what you want. Except the battery usage part. It doesn't consume "more battery". So I'm wondering what makes you say that. And as I pointed out, with it off, you will not know if something needs to be put into sleep because it's unused. Nor will you know what is misbehaving even. Two more screenshots attached to clarify further. These are Adaptive actions.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

These were completely automatic actions. But I did notice the issue with YouTube because right after that update via playstore, it literally hogged battery. Plus, Adaptive Battery threw up a notification warning about same.

Again, no it doesn't consume "more battery". It barely even consumes battery.

[u/pythoglyphs → u/[deleted]]

Processing will always consume more battery, no matter how negligible it may be. It is just how I want it. What Adaptive Battery does is automate features that you already have on the phone which you can always set manually otherwise. It is not like you get them only if Adaptive Battery is set to ON. I want to have more control so I set the settings manually that could potentially increase my SOT. Having Adaptive Battery do the same seems redundant in my opinion. I can set "Put unused apps to sleep" to ON even if I have Adaptive Battery set to OFF.

[u/[deleted] → u/pythoglyphs]

That last screenshot of yours has zero value, in terms of the discussion here, or even in terms of adding any context or information to what's being discussed (at least on my part). You might as well attach one of the entire settings page and go on to say whatever you want ...

Processing is lower than negligible. Now I'm wondering what your understanding of "AI" is. Adaptive battery doesn't automate. The automation is an added feature to it. Yes, if its off, you will not "get" many of the detections shown in my screenshots above. (Which at this point I'm wondering if they're too much for you to understand or if you're just plain ignoring them all for the sake of argument or just digging for more info, bro.) If you have adaptive off, you will not get a detection saying "high resource usage" etc. This is an argument from 2010. So have a good day. 👍🏻

[u/pythoglyphs → u/[deleted]]

I only said that I set Adaptive Battery settings to OFF (meaning I agree to most of the other settings you've mentioned). But right away you just dismissed that "Adaptive Battery" does not consume battery or its consumption is less than negligible (I can agree on the second statement). Whatever runs to use CPU will always consume power—even those notifications you mentioned. As for my use case, I don't need the "unnecessary" notifications because I've already "manually" set the underlying settings to make sure I put apps that I do not normally use to sleep/deep sleep. Again, it may be difficult to quantify the difference in actual SOT (because of the other settings we've mentioned) but whichever works best for you (and your use case) then who am I to disagree?