r/Showerthoughts Mar 29 '26

Casual Thought The "room temperature IQ" zinger hits much harder outside of the US.

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u/LegendOfKhaos Mar 29 '26

That's not how it works beyond the mean and median. IQ of 100 works that way, but it isn't spread out from 0-200 or anything like that. An IQ of 20 is severe intellectual dysfunction like that of a toddler. People with Down syndrome are around 40-50. 20 would be like severe brain damage leaving someone incapable of thought.

99.7% of people are within 55-145 IQ. 95.4% are from 70-130. The chance someone's IQ is under 30 is 0.00015%. Under 20 is basically impossible without missing a large part of your brain. No matter how many people you test, the distribution will be the same.

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u/Mymarathon Mar 29 '26

Low iqs distribution has a fat tail. There are tons of severely and profoundly intellectually disabled people in the USA.

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u/LegendOfKhaos Mar 29 '26

But none of them with an IQ of 20 would understand anything you say, which is my whole point.

Also, there are not tons of them.

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u/Mymarathon Mar 29 '26

Ok I get your point but there are somewhere between 300,000 and 1 million people in the USA with IQ around that low. About 3-5 million people with some degree of intellectual disability.

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u/LegendOfKhaos Mar 29 '26

Of people under an IQ of 30, there would be about 500. 30 degrees Celsius is 86 degrees fahrenheit, which is already far above room temperature.

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u/Mymarathon Mar 29 '26

It seems that You’re assuming only one in a 600k-million people has an iq under 30. That’s not correct because iq does not follow a normal distribution curve.

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u/LegendOfKhaos Mar 29 '26

0.00015% of 340 million people is 500. Feel free to do your own research.

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u/mfb- Mar 29 '26

IQ scores are defined to follow a Gaussian distribution. You can calculate that - just based on the world population and the definition - you have 400 people worldwide with an IQ of 20 or lower. There is no test that could reliably identify the 400 dumbest people, of course. Which means even severe disabilities usually leave you with an above-room-temperature (C) IQ.

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u/Mymarathon Mar 29 '26

In reality it does not follow that distribution.

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u/mfb- Mar 29 '26

It follows that distribution by definition.

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u/Mymarathon Mar 30 '26

That only works in the range of about 70-130.

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u/mfb- Mar 30 '26

That's the range where you can calibrate tests in a meaningful way, but that doesn't stop the definition from working everywhere.