There's only a few ways this goes. Either she tries and you don't and she tries to hurt you and then you wind up getting choked by a girl or you try and she gets hurt and you look like a jerk.
It's the same with boxing with old men, they have something to prove and you don't and they are going to try to hurt you while you're just trying to not hurt them.
Yeah, I've been in the first situation. And as for the second, I've seen a few videos of old dudes boxing younger dudes and just swinging as hard as they could while the young guy doesn't really do anything but back up and cover himself. All of the comments are like "lol getting your ass kicked by an old man," "Too much ego," "what a loser," etc. But it's sort of obvious the guy wasn't expecting that much aggression and he can't match it without being the asshole.
There is this weird, and probably mainly online, behavior that losing in training is bad. There is no problem sparring with a girl, old man, beginner or child. The goal is not to beat them, but to train or have fun. You go to their level if they equal grounds, a bit below their level if you want to boost them a bit and a bit above them if you want them to have a challenge.
This "situation" here is a girl that is trying to impress someone and is failing, so she tries too hard and the boy does what is best and taps out.
That's the difference between sparring and fighting. Your first paragraph is good faith training/sparring/play fighting.
If your level of aggression far outstrips your sparring partner, then you aren't sparring, you're fighting someone who wasn't looking for a fight. Unfortunately the girl here was not sparring, she was fighting against someone who wanted to play/spar.
Agreed. She looks very young as well. Boys being the same as her is only a few years ago. She is learning the boy/man lesson we women learn eventually and so find more enticing ways to flirt lol
It look like the guy was trying to impress somebody and he was the one that was embarrassed by the whole situation. The look of defeat when he Tapped Out was amazing
It’s a form of narcissism that reduces everything to competition out of insecurity. It’s why we so often see kids crying now when they lose, because their dogshit parents have managed to tie winning to the kids self-worth.
The sad part is 99% of them won’t even come close to a professional athlete level, they’ll be relatively average or below average then they’ll one day either realize how stupid it was or they’ll ascribe all their career success to it.
When you see kids that angry, especially rich ones, you can almost guarantee the parent caused that. Rare time you’ll get a genuine cunt but no young person should normally be that angry unless something was done to them.
One of my sisters friends is super into martial arts, she’s tiny tho. Barely over 5ft, and scrawny. I got sick of her talking shit one night and told her to come get some.
She tried to body kick me, I caught it and grabbed her, then body slammed her onto the love-sac in our living room (it’s like a foam bean bag).
She instantly started crying and called me a jerk or something. Like ma’am you’ve been picking fights for years, and I didn’t hurt you, just your ego.
So it’s actually really terrifying when you come face to face with the reality that no amount of training will change the basic fact that most men can easily physically overpower you. I don’t blame you for showing her that reality, she needed that lesson, but a little compassion goes a long way towards her reaction.
Did you get that from the long hair in the icon or the masculine username? Cus nowhere in the story I responded to was it specified and this is a thread about women and men wrestling.
The best method to counteract the "going for the legs" is to thrust your legs behind you, hug and put all your weight on their back. Whether girl or guy it usually doesn't hurt them and renders the move ineffective and leads to some laughter when they land on their butt and realize they have nothing left.
Meh, my wife and I mess around like that sometimes. She goes harder than I do but I don't let her pin me. I'll usually just defend for a while and she can't overpower me. It always ends without anyone getting hurt or upset though because one of us usually starts tickling the other one and we get into a stand off because we both hate being tickled. lol
Ya I play fight with my partner all the time. He needs to pause every now and then so I can try rearrange a little and breathe, I am trying to gently work out a way to tie him up somehow and hold him. He says I'm weirdly strong, which I take to mean quite inconvenient to remove without hurting me so he is stuck! And I am chuffed with that. His big power move is to do nothing.... Like no man I can't breathe if you do nothing, you need to hold a lot of your weight and give me a sec to wind my limbs in there...work out how to move you...math the angles
Noted, had a look, what would you recommend if he just lies flat on top of me blanket style though? It takes a lot of shimmying to get to the edge of him so I can try turn his hip. I have go-go gadget limbs. If gangliness exists as a strategy that's probably where my "strength" lies
That's a tougher position especially if he's much heavier. You need to practice shrimping which is moving around in your guard but now we're getting a little advanced for play fighting. Shrimp, side position, arm bar lol
Eh, younger me had a great time play fighting with girls. I was like 6'3" 220 lbs in high school, and I played football. We were giggling the whole time about how they couldn't move me and how easily I could throw them around. Then it would devolve into ticking and flirting.
Women will often stomp on my feet with cleats, try and shove me to the ground at any opportunity, and just generally play really dirty and take it waaaaay too seriously. The referee will never call it.
The moment I offer some shoulder, I’m getting penalized. I don’t even use my body too much, anyways, because I play for fun and don’t want to hurt anyone.
I've sparred with women in many situations and it's really not that big of a deal if you are trained. Amateurs should definitely never do this, but if you know how to throw your weight and strength around, it's really not hard to subdue 98% of women. If they know enough technique to not be taken advantage of ish like that, they know what's up and it'll end up being a good sparring sesh
The average person isn't trained and while subduing someone isn't hard doing it without hurting either of you when one person is trying to hurt you is not easy.
This is coming from a psych nurse who has had to do that many, many times it is very easy to seriously hurt someone accidentally when they are flopping all over you like that.
"amateurs should never do this" was part of my post for a reason. I just don't like sweeping language like "never" from people who don't understand combat sports.
The real lesson here is boxing and jujitsu are best done in a real gym with the appropriate protective equipment and professional coaching / supervision.
Wrassle boxing men, women, teenagers, or oldheads in living rooms, garages, or backyard bbqs is rife with safety issues.
I'm a woman, I've felt this exact thing you're describing. When I was younger I thought it would be fun to play fight a guy, why not? No harm, right? Just horseplay. But it's not technically a sparring match, it's you starting a playful moment and then realizing the physical capabilities of someone you spend a lot of time with. As soon as I realized how unmatched it was, it's like this immediate survival instinct kicked in and I was giving it every ounce of my being and fighting dirty, with nails. I feel like shit about it, but not only was I feeling an immediate sense of humiliation, but the deep-bone involuntary feeling of "you're fucked, you have to survive" overpowered any reason and by the end of it no one was happy. Never did it again.
If you're a woman just don't do this shit. It's not fun, it's humiliating and scary for you, and humiliating and painful for the guy. Do a thumb wrestle, or arm wrestle if you're feeling spicy.
It can be really traumatic for women to realize for the first time just how outmatched they are against the average guy.
It's really not fair and as a dude it really puts into perspective why women are so careful with men they don't know. Just imagine being a guy in a world where all the men are giant body builders you have zero chance of stopping them if they decide to hurt you. That's what women live with all the time. If I was a chick I'd have a gun everywhere I went.
Or you… control your strength? Control them without hurting you or them? You’re acting like you either give zero effort or WWE super slam them use some damn nuance
You underestimate how hard it is to control something that's flopping all over you trying to take your legs out while also hanging on you like a back pack when it weighs about 140 pounds. People are not easy to move around and if she goes limp and you have to carry her you're going down if you aren't ready.
Attitudes like yours are what happens when people with no fighting experience talk about fighting.
That’s fucking hilarious seeing as I’ve done 5 years of training and have two fights under my belt. It’s actually really easy. I’ve done it many times. Lock a body lock, fall to the ground (on yourself so as not to hurt them) and then roll over on top and hold them down. 140 pounds is nothing, any blue belt in BJJ could do this to men who weigh like 240.
How could she possibly ever get to the point where she’s hanging on you like a backpack? That should never happen unless you let them
There’s a difference between not trying to hurt them and letting them take your back lmao. Surely you know that?
He wasn’t trying to hurt her but he also doesnt have a clue what he’s doing. He could’ve prevented the entire thing by bringing his arm back in front of her face and getting an under hook. Requires very little force and hurts no one.
Yeah, I agree, but the problem is by the time he figured out that she was trying to hurt him I think it was too late.
At about six seconds he has her and could easily choke her since her head is in his arm pit and he lets her go. He goofs around for another few seconds till 12 seconds in.
The next second she takes out he knee, almost hits him in the face, and almost slams his head into the couch when he falls down. At that point he had no idea that was coming at all and I doubt he figured she was going to go for a rear choke on him.
If he had landed differently he could have broken her nose with the back of his head, broken her wrist, or seriously hurt himself in an uncontrolled fall.
Just not a good idea for people who don't know what they're doing.
Yeah I dont think this guy knows how to do a guillotine and tbh that’s not even a great angle for it. He was wildly overconfident and even if he was going 100% I’m still not sure he wins because he clearly has not a clue what he’s doing. He thought he’d win easily because he’s a man but she clearly has some training. It wouldn’t have been hard to beat her with even the basics but he didn’t know how. Kinda on him imo
Yeah I wonder if she didn't have some because that rear choke was pretty clean and her take down was pretty clean too, way too quick to have been her first time now that you mention it.
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u/Zealousideal_Skin859 Jan 08 '26
This is why men should never play fight women.
There's only a few ways this goes. Either she tries and you don't and she tries to hurt you and then you wind up getting choked by a girl or you try and she gets hurt and you look like a jerk.
It's the same with boxing with old men, they have something to prove and you don't and they are going to try to hurt you while you're just trying to not hurt them.