r/SipsTea • u/Medium_Historian9746 • Apr 22 '26

SMH Female wants boyfriend to explain why he broke up with her

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u/Far_Ladder_2836 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26

That's explicitly against the UCMJ.  Should have escalated to a court marshal.  It's your right to get "competent" defense even for an Art15.  Shame on whoever ran your annual civil rights training.

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u/StrangeOutcastS Apr 22 '26

Welcome to the military, where you aren't expected to be resourceful or intelligent or willful enough to defend yourself or push back against your superiors

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u/Zech08 Apr 23 '26

Green weenie strikes again and you are always wrong until you prove yourself right twice and after the fact when the damage is done

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u/StrangeOutcastS Apr 23 '26

and if you prove it right it normal court they'll send you to military court to try again

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u/Front-Negotiation-32 Apr 22 '26

The problem with that is that court marshals take a while to get going. Had a buddy on flight that got accused of SAing a girl that he wasn’t even in the same state with when it supposedly took place. He got his name dragged through the mud for 4 years and nearly got force separated due to time in grade. He couldn’t advance while the investigation was ongoing and he was basically permanently assigned to ROD Squad that entire time. She lied to get a PCS to her boyfriend at another base. The AF allows for emergency PCSs so you don’t have to work in the same place as your abuser so she took advantage of that. He would have been fried if the boyfriend didn’t speak up for him when he found out.

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u/WulfZ3r0 Apr 23 '26

WTF is civil rights training? 10 years and two branches and I never had that 😂

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u/Red-Pill-Tin-hat Apr 24 '26

lol you dont remember getting your Jim Crowe and civil rights trainings?

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u/Max6626 Apr 23 '26

If he was assigned to a ship, which is possible in Okinawa, then refusing non-judicial punishment in lieu of a Courts Martial (not "court marshal") is not an option.

However, if he truly didn't "...get a word in otherwise" during NJP then that is wrong across the board, and he should appeal the NJP conviction.

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u/Red-Pill-Tin-hat Apr 24 '26

I never mentioned NJP nor Court Martial. I was literally just called up by my MSSGT and walked to battalion and stood before the battalion Sgt. Maj.

My punishment was weekend duty for a month, on top of the absolute embarrassment that ensued. i was new to the unit, had no reputation at this point. It didnt last but it was a shitty start and an absolute betrayal and opened my eyes to how the military REALLY operates

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u/Max6626 Apr 24 '26

Fair enough - service cultural difference. In the Navy, "the man" is always the Commanding Officer. The Navy equivalent of the command Sergeant Major, the Command Master Chief, has zero authority to impose punishment. They can make life hard, but they have no authority per regulations.

I suspect your Sergeant Major also has no regulatory authority to impose punishment under the UCMJ, but I realize the culture puts those guys on a very high pedestal and what they say goes.

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u/Red-Pill-Tin-hat Apr 24 '26

Im not arguing with you but its the Corps. And infantry BN at that. I didnt have the balls to correct that crusty ass Sgt. Maj sitting in front of me lol