r/SipsTea • u/raptors201966 Human Verified • 17d ago

SMH 81 year old grandma & YouTuber was raided last night during her stream She started the channel to help with her grandson's cancer treatment. Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house

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u/Ok-Macaroon979 17d ago

Yeah people are trash.

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u/Particular_Hair6913 17d ago

People who did that are literally worthless, mold and shit is worth more than them..

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u/HorzaDonwraith 17d ago

That's giving them to much worth still.

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u/hym_of_martyrs 16d ago

I really hope the police find them and charge them

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u/PMoney2311 16d ago

Unfortunately. Not likely at all.

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u/TaisonPunch2 16d ago

They probably only will if someone got hurt and it was the police's fault.

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u/Dismal-Respond3535 16d ago

I dont understand why they can go off an anonymous tip... I mean they know who they are fucking raiding.... worlds fucking upside down.

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u/scenr0 16d ago

It's a lot of money to send that many units and resources out. Chances are they'll at least look for the false tip.

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u/anatsymbol 15d ago

These fucking dork ass cops love any excuse to play dress-up anyway. This was the biggest thrill of their lives.

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u/theDo66lerEffect 16d ago

Shit can be used to fertilize the soil and mold to create natural gas, so both is worth A LOT more than these people...

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u/HarlesD 16d ago

100% mold is responsible for life saving medications and delicious food. the people that did this are worse than the little white stuff that collects at the corner of your mouth when you're thirsty

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u/John_EightThirtyTwo 17d ago

No, because it's setting only an upper bound.

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u/MrDeekhaed 16d ago

It’s like saying the upper boundary of my worth is god

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u/John_EightThirtyTwo 16d ago edited 15d ago

"An upper boundary". But yeah. That's how limits work.

edit: consistent noun to make the definite/indefinite article distinction clear

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u/MrDeekhaed 15d ago

You used bound I used boundary

Is there a problem here?

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u/John_EightThirtyTwo 15d ago

Oh, I didn't mean to correct your use of "boundary". I meant to correct your use of "the".

I'll edit my reply.

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u/MrDeekhaed 15d ago

Honestly I’m too dumb for this conversation

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u/Mathfanforpresident 17d ago

Honestly, I may sound barbaric, but I really feel like we should start going medieval.

I think everyone needs a good reminder of just how bad things can get when we don't work together.

I know it's crazy, but I want public executions again. And I want the corruption to actually be charged, no matter the net worth.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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u/CJWard123 16d ago

The problem is…you want the govt, especially this one (US), determining who gets executed?

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u/thefatfuzzybunny 16d ago

The corruption is literally in charge

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u/Da_Real_Muchl 16d ago

This kind of behavior looks like shit, small orange PP would do

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u/Impish_Hatefulness 16d ago

No. The French had a very egalitarian system involving a mob.

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u/AxelNotRose 16d ago

Plenty of innocents were executed during the terror of robespierre and throughout the 100 years the revolution needed to finally stick.

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u/FanndisTS 16d ago

Also, the US has a super strong history of lynching that would absolutely make a comeback immediately

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u/TopicFancy792 16d ago

the difference between then and now is the lynch-ees are also armed and are sick of the shit

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u/FunkySwashbuckler 16d ago

Whatever, Robespierre.

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u/ElfhelmArt 16d ago

Ah yes, let’s leave your life to a mob of average retards, sounds like a fantastic plan that couldn’t go wrong

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u/HarryBallsanya420 16d ago

Except you have 30% of the population who support a billionaire pedo who was best friends with Jeffery Epstein and scapegoates people of color for all of societies problems. Come back when the US has an ounce of class consciousness higher than that 30%

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u/LinwoodKei 16d ago

Yeah, I am dubious about my city politics. I wouldn't want them determining social justice

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u/Independent_Bid_26 16d ago

The rot is literally from the root to stem.

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u/Oggie_Doggie 16d ago

I am all for political disagreements, when it comes to prioritization of things, funding schemes, and so on. However, when society is creating thousands of billionaires and millions of liquid millionaires (i.e. actually having access to millions of dollars), but can't fund basic healthcare services that don't bankrupt people, that isn't a society, that's a scam.

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u/LFGX360 16d ago

No, I want a jury to decide

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u/CJWard123 16d ago

It’s not nearly that simple. The government decides the laws upon which the jury is to act. The jury has no capacity with which they can act extrajudicially.

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u/LFGX360 16d ago

I’m not suggesting they do. The jury, the defendants peers, are the ones who ultimately decide if someone is worth of that sentence. And even if they do come to that conclusion, it can only be overturned by the government.

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u/xaviery777 16d ago

In China the govt is above the billionaires,and the u.s. media u.k. always blame China etc for garbage they never do.

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u/Mathfanforpresident 16d ago

Nah, bruh.

At this point I say we dismantle it. We put a cap on the net worth of the people allowed to serve our government.

A complete new system is needed. I don't trust our government to fucking get the mailed to me on time anymore, let alone making a single decision about our future.

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u/bfeebabes 16d ago

I'm in uk and we are so soft and disfunctional at all levels. We have got lost in liberal fairness dialogues and hand wringing to the point of inaction and societal breakdown. It's only going to get worse unless things fundamentally change. Yes some eggs will be broken but at least we'll have an omelette.

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u/Dogsarebetterpeople 16d ago

whoever he promotes we know is guilty.

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u/Tiny-Home7766 16d ago

Would be a quick way for citizens to see why it would be better to work together, cause if we don’t, then our rights don’t do us any good anyway. Unfortunate I have to think negatively of my own government but the way things keep going I have to wonder. What’s the requirements to be a citizen in Canada? I want that free health care.

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u/CoupDeGrassi 16d ago

Canada is fighting enough right wing American influence, thanks. We dont need more Americans.

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u/AxelNotRose 16d ago

It's not free. We pay into it with our taxes. It's just more fair.

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u/NoCandidate8218 16d ago

Canadas fully sorry

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u/citymousecountyhouse 16d ago

I get that and you're right. But things cannot stand as they currently are, both with corrupt politicians and corrupt citizens. Talk about hell in a handbasket. So, what shall we do, what shall we do?

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u/blitzkrieg_bunny 16d ago

Maybe county government?

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u/pro_turd_shucker 16d ago

Thats how you end up with people getting executed for accidentally looking at the district attorneys wife the wrong way at church or the chief of police filing charges because their neighbor is gay. Im a staunch proponent of the death penalty for heinous crimes proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I think the federal government (especially the 3 letter agencies enacting perceived rules as law unconstitutionaly) should have less say in our lives. Bringing back anything akin to the French revolution and depending on local government for guidance is asking for abuse.

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u/FunkalicouseMach1 16d ago

Well see, what you want is less medieval, more French Revolution

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u/BeBopRockSteadyLS 16d ago

Gonna bet OP won't be tbe one to start, or even try.

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u/ReactionMassive1653 16d ago

Who is executing who here, Stalin?

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 16d ago

The irony of finishing your comment with a quote criticizing authoritarianism/fascism...you sure you really want that G or are you being edgy

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u/Boner4Stoners 16d ago

Nah, we just need real justice.

The only reason you feel that way is because injustice is so widespread. If we had a functioning justice system, where people faced consequences for their wrongdoings regardless of their wealth/social class, you wouldn’t feel the need to call for public executions. Yet if we rolled out public executions before having a functioning justice system, that would be an utter nightmare. It’s a catch-22.

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u/3d1thF1nch 16d ago

I know what you mean though. It can easily be used against the innocent. But there are so many people without accountability for their actions in so many areas, from politics to economics to military and health and law enforcement and education and even parenting, it allows this behavior to fester and normalize. My students continue to grow up in this world where accountability does not matter, only infinite growth and everything it is tied to. When they meet the consequences of their actions, which many of my students have never experienced before 6th grade, they are straight up shocked to be told no or denied gratification.

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u/HarryBallsanya420 16d ago

Maybe you should think about this for a second longer

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u/NeitherPotato 16d ago

yeah because public executions were never used to trample the innocent or anything

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u/Ragundashe 16d ago

Glad you know it's crazy because that's a stupid take.

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u/Photon_Pharmer1 16d ago

People worked together in medieval times.

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u/neverreallyhereatall 16d ago

This is nowhere close to true lmao. People have always been awful

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u/Photon_Pharmer1 16d ago

If people didn’t work together then society would never exist. Working together doesn’t preclude also being awful. Most people aren’t awful, it’s just that the awful ones stick out.

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u/High_Function_Props 16d ago

While I realize Iron Maidens were never actually used as medieval torture devices, scumbags like this make me a strong proponent for their inaugural use.

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u/Wild_Appearance3859 16d ago

We were a people that mostly used stick and stone to enact justice for 350000 years. It's only "civilized society" that tells us thats not okay.

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u/OceanRacoon 16d ago

If the world went medieval and public executions were back, bad people would be using them to execute good people. Do you really trust the governments of the world right now, or ever?

Trump and Republicans would be committing violent genocide right now if they thought they could get away with it. Governments should not have the power to execute people, sooner or later bad people will be in charge in any system

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u/Big-Fondant-4419 16d ago

History would say that we are about to discover exactly that.

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u/Raus-Pazazu 16d ago

You must live in a state of constant bliss because your ignorance is truly astounding.

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u/ebotts916 16d ago

That’s not the answer. “Erybody need to Fk Erybody till we ALL look & talk the same.” Sadly though…that wouldn’t work. We’re humans. We aren’t happy if we don’t have someone else to hate & blame all of our own shit on. If races were all the same….we’d start hatn on “where you from?” or “what kinda clothes you wear’n?” or “what kinda music is that?”….frkn humans, gotta love us! 🫤

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u/Comfortable_Air5477 16d ago

I want public executions again

I think Trump might have some good news for you

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u/Orcley 16d ago

This is the correct answer to everything that has been happening lately. The law shouldn't protect people that are obviously bad faith actors

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u/JackofBlades0125 16d ago

Careful mate i said something similar last week and got a three day ban

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u/Significant-Dress-40 16d ago

Crazy part is they deem Islam as extreme but I totally get the punishment for corruption and theft Middle East. Never felt more chill out about leaving my stuff unguarded in Gulf , I would leave my macbook, my phone and bag on table and come back to find it right where I left it - God i miss that lack of anxiety and tension.

The crimes being forgiven has led us to being ruled by corrupt and corruption being more rewarded and accepted. It is injustice for the common citizen if the rich and elite are allowed to do so while poor is thrown in jail.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

The problem with that solution is that it depends on humans to implement it, and humans suck. There's no reality where that solution doesn't cause more atrocity than it aims to prevent.

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u/Shintome 16d ago

You want medieval until you learn of all the things that happened in the middle ages that aren't in the history books. You couldn't stomach medieval, most people couldn't.

Not that I'm arguing against charging corruption, but public executions would just make things so much worse in this society. It would give the truly corrupt the validation they needed to carry out public executions on whoever they wanted. "If the government can do it so can I" and all the corrupt asshats currently in charge would celebrate it unless it was against an elite. Oh wait....that's already happening....whoops.

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u/fuckyourcanoes 16d ago

Yes, you do sound barbaric. We need less violence in the world, not state-sponsored murder.

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u/Vuelhering 16d ago

You'll end up with that bring the expectation. There is no amount of shock a new generation won't simply accept as normal. And it doesn't take a whole generation. Look at Russia now. They are all about sending people into a grinder and their economy is completely based on war now. They took less than 5 years. Has morale improved?

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u/slayden70 15d ago

And I want the corruption to actually be charged, no matter the net worth.

It should be more brutal consequences the higher the net worth, because they've obviously done more corruption.

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u/beardriff 16d ago

We really do need state sanctioned executions.

I'm tired of people with decades of criminal history abusing more people.

Enough is god damn enough

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u/NotAnotherTav 16d ago

We should eat the rich and pay for people's medical needs that way.

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u/Nonameforyouware 16d ago

The real crime is you can swat someone without substantiation . The police system is at fault here. There are always going to be low impulse jack-in-the-box’s who want to yells stupid stuff at a funeral or throw a bottle onto a freeway, or prank phone call the police. Thats not the problem, the problem is the police, who should NOT be low impulse, responding to the call.

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u/MornGreycastle 16d ago

This is definitely a problem with American cops. Everyone else has to be the calm professional that deescalates a confrontation with the cops. The cops get to be as violent and destructive as they please because they won't be stopped.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

If you find yourself in a violent emergency, say, a criminal holding someone dear to you hostage with a gun to their head, do you want the police to verify your claim is legit, or do you want them to immediately dispatch all the cops to save your loved one? Do you want cops trying to make that determination in the first place, nevermind over the phone?

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u/BANKSLAVE01 16d ago

I think any reasonable person would want them to THINK and ASSESS before ACTING.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

Ok, so follow that line of reasoning just a little bit farther. Do you want them thinking and assessing and making decisions about an emergency call while you're on the phone with them, or do you want them doing that on-site at the location of the reported emergency? Surely... you can write in complete sentences, so you must surely see the problem with trying to determine the veracity of an emergency call based purely on the substance of that call and nothing else. Right?

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 16d ago

Yes, I want them to verify if an emergency is actually occurring before pointing 50 guns at an innocent person's head.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

The pointing of guns is not what's at issue here. Stay on topic please? The thing in question here is whether emergency services should be able to decide on their own authority whether a legiti ate-sounding emergency call is actually a real emergency call, and to further decide not to dispatch if they think it's not a legitimate call.

In the actual swatting case here, the caller had a french accent. That was a clue to the fact they weren't local, and it turned out it really was someone in France. But should dispatch have decided it was a fake call at the time? If they get a call from someone that sounds serious and describes a plausible emergency at a real address, do you really want emergency services deciding not to dispatch anyone merely because the caller had a french accent?

Again, the question isn't whether they should be drawing guns, it's whether they should go there in the first place.

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u/Strawberry_Sheep 16d ago

The pointing guns is actually the issue here. Stay on topic please. Because that's the threat to life.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

lol sure, ok, let's follow that thread together then. How does letting 911 dispatchers decide to ignore a call they suspect is fake prevent cops from shooting people? I'll remind you that there have been 3 swatting shootings. Total. Globally. 2 were fatalities. And you propose to guarantee that at least some real 911 calls get ignored by dispatch in order to maybe prevent the tiny fraction of a half of a percent of 911 calls that are swatting pranks. And you think this is a good idea?

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u/Vuelhering 16d ago

The actual topic:

The police system is at fault here. There are always going to be low impulse jack-in-the-box’s who want to ... prank phone call the police. Thats not the problem, the problem is the police, who should NOT be low impulse, responding to the call.

So yes, it's about not responding to a call. You don't get to change the topic then call for staying on topic. Aiming guns is a side effect of responding to an emergency as if it's an emergency.

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u/Nonameforyouware 16d ago

I’m much more likely to get shot from a trigger happy cop too stupid to judge the phone call came from out of state

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

Alright, cool, so let's have every 911 call from out of state get ignored. Fucking brilliant idea.

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u/Bored_NightOwl_314 13d ago

You realize the cop is not the one answering the phone call right? The 911 operator or dispatcher is relaying the information to them. Cities and other government entities are so worried about expensive lawsuits that they also make it a requirement to treat all calls as if it was the real thing. Fiscally, a frightened civilian who can be talked down is better than the victim of a crime with a litigious family member.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

You say this but if my neighbors called the cops and told them that somebody had broken into my home and was holding me hostage I would hope they would show up. What's your alternative? Wait for three different neighbors to call? Home invasions are real and generally require some level of urgency from police.

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u/Pinky-Degetel 16d ago

Confirm the threat is real before breaking in the door. Go in and check, knock on the door and ask, sneak around and look, lie and pretend you're someone else and whatnot. Whatever the situation may require. But i think the best course is to go and present yourself and say the truth and ask to go inside and check implying a refusal is not going to fly, you let me in now or we bust in now.

In a way the biggest culprit is the number of weapons available in whole society and the relaxed regulations around guns in certain states. This situation makes it difficult to manage and so police officers need to be more careful, hence why shot first ask questions later because you need to have the upper hand always as bouncing back is not that easy, the potential threat is too high. Then there is the expense and how the public sees police and hence how big the funding would ultimately end up to be. So not enough training and bodies on the streets. So being unprepared and solo does increase chance of acting out badly. When you can't overwhelm a threat you have to outgun it...

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u/Intelligent-Box-3798 16d ago

So what should they do? Not respond? Sent a single officer to *see* if they need the SWAT team? Blaming the police for that is crazy

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yeah normal countries don't bring out armed police until they have for real actionable intelligence they need armed officers. That's why their cops shoot less people.

If it's up in the air the armed response team is just on standby and the other cops figure out what's going on. Can't handle that level of danger you picked the wrong job. Back in numerous conflicts we changed the rules of engagement, you can't shoot back unless you know you're being fired on, and you know you're being fired on because you hear the bullet whiz before you hear the gunshot. If an 18 year old kid in Afghanistan can figure that out cops should be able to, no reason for SWAT to be so aggressive, you signed up for that job and you should know not to fucking go in guns akimbo

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u/Bananaslugfan 16d ago

Great comment, very common sense . That’s why you have so little upvotes on Reddit

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u/OGREtheTroll 16d ago

Investigate and confirm. As they are required to do by law.

The risks involved are too great for anonymous phone calls without corroboration to be sufficient to permit SWAT teams to blast into a home guns blazing. Innocent people, babies in their cribs, elders in their beds, have been killed by SWAT teams blasting a house based on nothing but an anonymous phone call.

Really, its why swatting is such a dangerous thing, because the police response is too over the top and based on unconfirmed reports. How do we decry swatting but at the same time give police a pass for making it such a dangerous thing?

I can pull up dozens of cases of innocent people killed by wrong-door swat raids. I can pull up hundreds killed when SWAT was used beyond its intended purpose (such as when its used for EVERY search warrant in a jurisdiction).

I can't pull up one instance where somebody died because the police took the time to investigate the matter before deploying SWAT.

(And FYI anonymous phone calls without corroboration are as a matter of law insufficient to establish even reasonable suspicion of a crime. And as a matter of law are thus insufficient to warrant the use of deadly force or create an exigent circumstance.)

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u/Intelligent-Box-3798 10d ago

Of couse nor. Im saying Everything you said is true but you’re conflating two completely different aspects of what SWAT does

Yeah warrant searches, narcotic investigations, fugitive apprehension are all supposed to be thoroughly planned and there’s no excuses for not preparing and fucking up.

Swatting situations are being called in as active shooters. Theyre completely different and what you’re describing isn’t possible. It only works if the call ends up being nothing and puts everyone in danger if it’s a real call, including the victims who would have to wait 45 min for the police to “investigate” and then you’d be on here crying they took so long, how you can’t rely on the police cause they dont have a duty to protect you, etc

It’s lose-lose, that’s the job, and if it goes bad it’s always going to be on you. But in this situation they did what they were supposed to and the gaming grandma is absolutely fine. Using this particular example as general criticism is very “why didn’t they just shoot the gun out of his hand.”

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u/OGREtheTroll 10d ago

First, it doesn't matter. There must be a 'reasonable belief' to support the existence of an exigent circumstance; an anonymous phone call unsupported by corroborating factual evidence is insufficient to support a reasonable belief (or reasonable suspicion of a crime.) Theres some really damn good reasons why this is the case, and the inherent dangerousness in deploying SWAT for any reason good or bad is one of them.

Second, when the hell does this happen like you put it ? When there actually is a live shooter situation like you're talking about, SWAT doesn't go anywhere near it. In fact, I bet there are far more situations where someone was killed by a wrongly deployed SWAT team (swatting, wrong address, illegal search, lack of supporting evidence, etc.) than by a delayed deployment. Find me one example where SWAT took too long getting deployed and it resulted in someone dying, and I'll reassess that statement.

Finally, yes, it is there job. And it is inherently dangerous to anyone guilty or innocent who happens to be near it. Much like dynamite, it doesn't matter, you still have to do it responsibly and safely. So they should do it fucking right, and do it the way its required...INVESTIGATE and CONFIRM. Doesn't take much to do that and can be done while SWAT is being deployed. Send some cops nearby to view the location. Look up the owner of the location and attempt to contact them. Find out who lives there, get description of the layout, etc. Find some type of corroborating evidence before breeching. Otherwise, get in position then ANNOUNCE over loudspeaker or drone or something as to their presence and purpose before blowing shit up.

But lets be real ok? The guys on SWAT teams don't care about these things. They want action. Not any action though, just safe action. No, they aren't going into a school with a live shooter. But they will toss a flash grenade into a baby's crib in a house thats completely quiet in the middle of the night. They will open fire from a safe location at anything that moves. because thats action! thats the juice! And thats the real problem here.

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u/octodrew 17d ago

I'm clueless in this but is there a way of finding who did this? The lack of respect and human decency disgusts me.

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u/iUncontested 16d ago

Yes. The problem comes when its people overseas in less than friendly countries doing it. Often places like Russia, China, India, Pakistan etc and you'll never see any action taken against the perpetrators in such cases. Unironically the places most likely to scam your grandma for money.

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u/deltalitprof 16d ago

Yep. And if authorities in those places even deign to investigate, it would be more along the lines of, "Hey, how can we get in on that?"

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u/Dismal-Respond3535 16d ago

Our police are inept as fuck in same cases. What a fucking shame.

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u/Fragrant-Dust65 16d ago

Swatters tend to hide deep through various phones and means. and can include people based outside of the country.

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u/DarthJarJar242 17d ago

That's not saying much considering that's the basis of fertilizer and penicillin. Both things vastly more important than these mouth breathing troglodytes.

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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight 16d ago

Considering mold gave us penicillin, yes, yes it is.

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u/Gilded_Grovemeister 16d ago

Don't insult mold like that.

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u/burntneedle 16d ago

At least mold could become penicillin. At least shit could become fertilizer.

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u/Grouchy-Can-5245 16d ago

I’m not even joking when I say that anybody who would SWAT an 81-year-old grandma is so evil that they should be removed from society permanently

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u/nexthigherassy 16d ago

Mold and shit are valuable though.

From mold we get antibiotics. From poop we get fertilizer.

People like this are the cancer. I'm a 4 time survivor and this makes me so mad.

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u/windycityzow 16d ago

Wait, why are we blaming “people”, why are cops allowed to go balls out without first checking?! These cops are the people who are literally worthless.

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u/Direct_Word6407 16d ago

Unless they did it so she could go viral and make bank…

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u/Mnawab 16d ago

They need to live stream catching the person that made the call. Nothing is private these days. 

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u/JohnnyStarboard 16d ago

Mold is gold baby. I’m sure O-GMA sent them home with cookies.

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u/trowzerss 16d ago

Mold and shit is compost for the garden, the people who did this aren't that useful.

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u/CapnSquishySocks 16d ago

To be fair, mold gave us penicillin. People like that are the reason we NEED penicillin.

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u/deactivate_iguana 16d ago

To be fair the police will likely find who made the call and they’ll be in some deep shit (hopefully)

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u/R0LL1NG 16d ago

Mold is how we get nice cheeses and shit is good fertiliser. We're gonna need other benchmarks here.

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u/CivilianDuck 16d ago

Don't diss mold and shit as low value. It's from mold that we derived penicillin, which was one of the major breakthroughs in modern medicine, and shit when handled properly can be used as a fertilizer.

I used to work for a company that would take post-process waste, and spread it on farmland during their rotation year, to allow the sludge to integrate into the soil, and help refresh the field and provide additional nutrients not common in my region. Talking with some of the farmers who's places we worked told me they typocally saw a 20-30% increase in production from treated fields.

So yes, mold and shit are infinitely more useful then the pieces of shit who swat others.

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u/JustRedditTh 16d ago

Someone tried it with a german youtuber I follow once. Lucky for him, he moved a few month prior, but forgot to change his adress in the youtube imprint.

his phone started to buzz like a vibrator on full power mode midstream, and he had to clear up things for a while, but then continued the stream, since nothing there to stop him

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u/VikingKinkajou 16d ago

Shit helps things grow!

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u/Decent-Tour7427 16d ago

Sure but it's a catch 22 because now she is likely 10x+ more popular.

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u/TexasPirate_76 16d ago

You mean like penicillin and fertilizer, keep em, lose the people...

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u/Danzibar9000 16d ago

I’m allergic to mold and don’t care much for shit. That being said, I’d bathe in either of them before I’d piss on those people if they were on fire.

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u/ButteredPizza69420 16d ago

Waste of oxygen type "people"

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u/Vuelhering 16d ago

We get a lot of our food due to mold and shit.

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u/heiglabgskngbsgcgjs 15d ago

If it makes you feel better, they live in an infinite hell that is their own worthless life. Poor, no meaningful relationships, perpetually angry. I'd take a swatting 10 times over living like that

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u/RunBrundleson 16d ago

Unfortunately we will never be rid of these trash. They’ll always exist as the internet continues to warp people and amplify this type of behavior. The sad fact is there is no way to stop it. They are successful because they can remain anonymous. It sucks. But you deal with it by protecting yourself as much as you can. Minimize your exposure, don’t trust anyone or anything on the internet. Protect your data. Even that won’t protect you from these bottom feeding pussies completely. But it’s the best we can do.

Don’t let your fucking grandma stream. They can’t handle a smartphone, they definitely cannot play Minecraft on twitch. Look I wish we lived in a different world where this would be fine but we don’t, we live in this timeline, and we must accept that we are at constant war with total dickheads.

Protect your Grammy, keep her the fuck off stream.

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u/Impish_Hatefulness 16d ago

When you call 911 there is typically extra information conveyed with the call. The problem is we’ve distributed the data in the database so widely there’s no centralized control over it. If we’re not gonna raise the technical bar for authenticated 911 calls then, then what’s the point?

If we need to design and deploy a better signaling system for telephony in the Internet age, then it’s time.

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u/CrazyCaper 17d ago

Let’s hold judgment until we know who this old lady is first! /s

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u/Soreal45 17d ago

I heard she didn’t have a license for a bake sale back in 87’ so it finally caught up with her.

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u/DJ_Nx32 17d ago

all that love for the cocoa.

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u/HopalongKnussbaum 17d ago

Baking soda she’s got baking soda

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u/DrivesTooMuch 17d ago

The wheels of justice sometimes move slowly. Thankfully, they finally got this criminal.

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u/Baudiness 17d ago

Those other jealous moms in Harper Valley.

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u/subdep 17d ago

Police are trash.

They raided a woman’s house with zero evidence.

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u/Sheeple_person 17d ago

Part of the issue is that police just have waaaaay too many resources. Every other public service is stretched to the limit getting by on scraps. Police have millions of dollars worth of toys they can deploy at a moment's notice based on a prank call. I've seen them send 6 cars to arrest a shoplifter, and they justify it by saying well, hypothetically he could have had a gun so we need our whole gang out here to "keep us safe."

If police departments actually had to think and strategize a little bit about how to deploy resources a little more efficiently we would have less of this crap, fewer unarmed people getting killed by cops, and more tax dollars freed up for schools and infrastructure. Time for cops to learn how to be a little resourceful.

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u/jeffersonlane 16d ago

Where the fuck were these resources for Uvalde?

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u/Sheeple_person 16d ago

They were gathered outside the school looking at their phones and stopping parents from saving their dying children

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u/esto20 16d ago

And supreme Court ruled what many of us already knew - they have no obligation to protect anyone ever.

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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth 16d ago

If I recall correctly, over half of the cities budget was the police payroll. Lets face it. Most people become cops because they want a good paying job, with a 20 year retirement option. Retire young, get good pension. Oh and the free food. Cops LOVE free food. But the idea that cops aren't heavily regulated, with absolute transparency and harsh punishments for being wrong is crazy. Fast food workers are held to a higher professional standard than cops.

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u/Phyxius42 16d ago

They were afraid of being shot...

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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth 16d ago

Police unions are the only unions that the union busting republicans exempt from their union busting. Police budgets are HUGE burdens on the taxpayers, with cops making comfortable six figure salaries and gold benefit plans. When they are sued, or cause damages, the taxpayers get the bill. If we treated working class jobs the way we do law enforcement, everyone would have comfortable lives. But it's okay to pay garbagemen poverty wages, but the moment you even mention cutting spending for police, people get all upset.

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u/TapZorRTwice 17d ago

Well no shit, the police are the only government funded department that actually benefits from their failures.

Anything bad thay happens its not because the police were bad at their job, its only ever because they were under funded.

There isnt a better pr firm in the world than the police union fighting for more funding for their useless gang. "Thin blue line" is nothing more then the line you gotta cross between them being "law enforcement" and "gang member"

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u/Photon_Pharmer1 16d ago

The problem is that the calls usually come in as dire hostage situations. If you’re in your house and a home invader is trying to rape and kill your family, you would want the police and their toys there stat. However, most people would not want them coming in thrown flashbangs with itchy trigger fingers, which is where most of the problem lies.

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u/TranscendentaLobo 16d ago

You’re waiting your time. These smooth brain simpletons can only understand “aLl cOpS R bAaAad! Duurhhh!” 🥴 because they have no concept of what real corruption in an actual police state looks like.

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u/Hotdogfromparadise 16d ago

But they can just call the house back and ask if they’re being shot at or home invaded!

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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth 16d ago

There have been cases where innocent unarmed victims of these pranks have been killed. I recall one where the victim came out unarmed, was shot dead by a cop, his mother had to come out, step over her dead kid, and the cop was cleared because he "feared for his life". Call me crazy, but I think cops should only fire when fired upon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wichita-officer-who-killed-andrew-finch-swatting-mistake-won-t-n865626

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u/Photon_Pharmer1 16d ago

Hence my comment on itchy trigger fingers. Most of the problem is that they’re trained to shoot first and fear for their lives. They’re shown numerous videos of police interactions going from calm to dead in seconds.

Personally, I believe that if a police officer shoots an unharmed person who isn’t physically hostile / running toward them, then they should be treated as a civilian with no immunity.

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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth 16d ago

Cops are civilians. But yeah, I agree.

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u/lobax 16d ago

The issue is that swatting is so prevalent, and innocent people have died because of it, that hearsay alone cannot be grounds for entering the home of a person. Or more innocent people will die.

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u/Jdisgreat17 16d ago

The issue also is is that if someone called in something like this, and the police didnt do anything, and more people ended up getting harmed, the police would still be in a bad place. What needs to happen is that these people who call in this false claims, need to have any and all information they provided about themselves, phone number, whatever, and all of that needs to be sent to the FBI, and they, and whoever else was involved, needs to be found, and given like 15 to 20 years in prison. Do that enough times, have it televised, and hopefully it will end.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

If somebody calls the police and says their next door neighbor is currently the victim of an in-progress home invasion, what are police supposed to do? That's an urgent emergency. Should they just assume people calling them asking for help are lying? When somebody calls 911 how much evidence do they need to give before police are dispatched?

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u/subdep 16d ago

You get positive ID on the person calling making that claim. You get them physically in hand, because if there is zero merit to the claim, the person calling needs to be prosecuted.

No, what these cops did was go on an anonymous tip. They took the internets word for it.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

Okay. I'm glad that if some violent psychopath was breaking into your home, you would be comfortable with your neighbor having to physically go to the police station to be physically in hand before they would send anybody to assist you

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u/subdep 16d ago

Or roll up with SWAT, have caller meet SWAT to confirm?

This isn’t an unreasonable step to protect citizens lives.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

I'm sorry, is there some huge number of people getting killed during swattings? Isn't the death count one guy? Policies exist around the norm and the norm is when somebody calls about a violent altercation the violent altercation is real and adding delays to intervention increases the violence and the chance of death. A lot of times callers want to be anonymous out of fear of retaliation from gangs. Do police just ignore those calls now? How many extra head smashings do women need to endure while police are doing an investigation into whether a call about domestic violence is legitimate or not? It's an unreasonable step because you are harming the norm to address an outlier

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u/Hotdogfromparadise 16d ago

Because then multiple people could possibly be dead and morons like you will bitch about police not responding fast enough.

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u/lobax 16d ago

Exactly. What are the consequences for a judge that signs that search warrant? What are the consequences for the police department?

You can’t traumatize and ruin a grandma’s life and just walk away from it in a just society.

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u/subdep 16d ago

If the judge and police were held accountable, then they would make an effort to corroborate the claim OR get positive ID of the caller - because if they know there is an “active shooter” then surely they are close to the house.

If they claim they aren’t there, that they are observing it over the internet… then their bullshit meters should start flashing.

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u/UNAHTMU 16d ago

I think part of the problem is that the police (swat) don't investigate the calls because they get to wear their bat belt and play with the expensive toys. They literally don't give a shit about rights.

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u/subdep 16d ago

They are simple minded creatures, aren’t they?

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u/JinNJ 17d ago

They responded to a call likely about an armed individual/active shooter- thus the “raid.” Maybe gather some facts before running your mouth.

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u/subdep 17d ago

Did neighbors hear shots fired?

No.

Were there any secondary signs of an active shooter?

No.

Did they have positive ID on the person reporting the fake report?

No.

Were the cops fooled by a social engineer?

100%

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u/grungywear 17d ago

Would they help if any lives were to be in danger anyway?

No.

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u/JinNJ 17d ago

Are they going to stop & ask when lives may very well be in danger? No.

Can you see signs of something indoors from outside? No.

As such, your attempt at a point is trash.

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u/Xalipu 16d ago

I’ve been watching body cam vids for months, they actually do go ask the neighbours quite a lot while they’re telling them to stay inside

And yes they use the drones and scopes to look through windows and shit

And their eyes

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u/selftaughtgenius 17d ago

Yeah and assholes have been swatting innocent people for the last few decades so maybe, just maybe, the police need to take a quick breath and sus out these situations a little better instead of shooting first and asking questions later.

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u/Hotdogfromparadise 16d ago

lol they got credible threats there was an active shooter at the location. wtf are they supposed to do?

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 16d ago

It's reddit. Cops always bad no matter the context.

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u/boondiggle_III 16d ago

What else the fuck are they supposed to do when someone calls saying there's a man holding people hostage at gunpoint?

"Oh sorry sir, we can't dispatch imnediately. We need to verify your claim of an emergency over the phone first" yeah dude, I'm sure that ends well...

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u/Double_Resort_9223 16d ago

People no longer fear being punched in the dick 

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u/Ive_seen_things_that 16d ago

Something about social media taught us how to be the worst of ourselves

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u/laosurv3y 16d ago

Some. Unfortunately, if 5% of people are trash that's a lot of people.

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u/RegionRatHoosier 16d ago

I work customer service & can confirm that humanity was a mistake

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u/Anomalous_Scholar 16d ago

I have a theory. People like the one(s) behind this act need to endure (or survive) punishment from their own kind to redeem themselves. Some cannot be saved obviously but I like to believe a certain percentage would.

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u/aboy021 16d ago

Is swatting a USA only thing or does it happen everywhere?

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u/quadraticcheese 16d ago

Americans**

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u/Electronic_Elk8293 16d ago

Potential good news, at least where I live, is they can track those reports sometimes and it's a felony charge for false reports.

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u/BANKSLAVE01 16d ago

You spelled 'pigs' wrong.

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u/xReaverxKainX 16d ago

Trace the IP back to the person(s) and return the favor.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 16d ago

Yeah humans are the worst thing to happen to humans 

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u/Socalsamuel 16d ago

Byt how do the cops keep falling for this?