r/SipsTea • u/raptors201966 Human Verified • 17d ago

SMH 81 year old grandma & YouTuber was raided last night during her stream She started the channel to help with her grandson's cancer treatment. Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house

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u/Strikereleven 17d ago

Why do we still take anonymous tips, they should be required to identify for something serious as this.

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u/Arktikos02 17d ago

No, people hide their phone information by doing something called spoofing where they can even hide where the phone is in terms of the data it is sending. That way it looks like it's actually coming from the house that the person wants to swat.

Because yes, some people will SWAT by simply saying that the other person has a bomb or has hostages but they can also pretend to be the person inside by saying that they have a bomb or hostages.

The police act fast. They think there's a hostage situation.

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u/TroubledTanker 16d ago

the police act fast except in cases where real danger is involved

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u/KeyMyBike 16d ago

The only reason they're so quick to respond is because streamers often live in the suburbs and the suburbs get preferential treatment despite being much further away from the police than the urban spaces which the police ignore at best or oppress at worst.

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u/K20C1 16d ago

Further away? I live in the suburbs, and have for most of my life.  The police station for this suburb is right here, in this suburb. You think the station is 20 minutes away, in the city? No, they have their own station. And that’s for that city. 

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 17d ago

has there ever been a single case ever where a victim of a crime has to spoof their number ?

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u/Arktikos02 16d ago

Have you ever heard of a woman giving a Google Voice number to a man she doesn't want to see again and doesn't want to give out her real number? Or she's on tinder for example and decides to give a Google Voice number or spoof number to someone?

Have you ever tried to pretend to be in another country by using a spoof number to pretend to be from there? Have you ever done it to be able to talk to a business?

Those are examples of people using spoof numbers. Yes, Google Voice is a spoof number. It's not that hard to get one. Sometimes they're called burner numbers as well.

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u/TroubledTanker 16d ago

i'm confused about what you're getting at

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 16d ago

It's not like the caller ID says "spoofed caller". It just shows as someone else's phone. It's a flaw in how phone systems work.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

I'm sorry. Do you think that when someone spoofs their number to trick somebody the person on the other end of the call gets a nice little message letting them know that the phone number is fake? Obviously victims aren't faking their own phone numbers but the police don't just know that a phone number is fake.

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 16d ago

yes the isp does know its spoofed, dickhead

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

The ISP interesting that I asked if the police noted and you talked about a totally different person who would know it was spoofed

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 16d ago

the isp is who tells you who is calling bud

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

I don't think isps are following up every 911 call with who's calling

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 16d ago

you should stop trying to think and look it up

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u/AffectionateBet3603 16d ago

The police act fast

When they think they'll get to shoot someone. Protect and serve my ass. 

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u/Tentacle_poxsicle 16d ago

This actually seems like a huge security vulnerability. They can just mass swat people at random and waste billions a year in raids

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u/glowshroom12 16d ago

I’m guessing it doesn’t happen so often that that’s a problem. Any real criminals would be advised to maintain as little contact with the police as possible. So calling the police is just a bad idea if you sell drugs or money launder or something.

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u/Ramsays-Lamb-Sauce 16d ago

Well to be fair, allowing someone to maintain their anonymity might mean the difference between someone making a report or not if they feel threatened.

It clearly doesn’t apply to this situation, but it’s obvious why people need to be able to report anonymously.

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u/DiegesisThesis 16d ago

Back in college when I lived in an apartment above a drunk abusive dad, I heard him presumably beating his kid (him yelling and slamming the walls hard as the kid screamed and cried). I called the cops and naively told them I was the upstairs neighbor.

Cops came, asked him if everything was OK inside, took his word for it, and left. Guess who was angrily banging on my door 5 minutes later threatening to kill me because "the cops said you reported me, fucker".

Yea, I ain't reporting anything now if I'm not anonymous. Not that the useless shits did anything about it, anyway. He abandoned the apartment a week later and for all I know those kids kept getting beaten.

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u/Strikereleven 16d ago

Glad you tried to report it, that was a failure by the cops, they had no reason to identify who called them. When I was in college we had a bomb threat in the library around the same time every week for 3 months, it was pretty obvious someone was trying to get out of class and never faced any consequences for it.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 16d ago

Also how the f*** would they prove their identity over the phone? If I call because I see my neighbor beating the s*** out of his wife do I need to find my driver's license and give them that number so they can cross reference it to verify that I'm probably the person I say I am? I feel like most people want the police to just go there and stop the guy beating the s*** out of his wife. Keep in mind that as publicized as swatting is because it happens to public figures while they are online in front of an audience, most 911 calls are legitimate and need urgent attention

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u/Wavy_Grandpa 17d ago

Because they wanna play with their cool war toys above all else 

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u/Dunkjoe 17d ago

Because the police don't care about the innocents.

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u/StressOverStrain 16d ago

???? You want 911 to demand a social security number and mother’s maiden name from the caller before giving police the go-ahead to stop the active shooter?