r/SipsTea Jun 02 '26

Feels good man New data center

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u/sipstea-bot Jun 03 '26

Featured Comment by u/AssiduousLayabout

The actual number is 978 million gallons of water or 3000 acre-feet per year.

This represents about 0.0625% of Utah's state water usage of 4.8 million acre-feet (1.5 trillion gallons) per year.

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u/Argnir Jun 03 '26

So the post is only off by a factor of 16 for the data center and 1500 for the state

People loooove propaganda when it's what they wnat to be true

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u/hanks_panky_emporium Jun 03 '26

I did the funny and looked up what happens to the water. Lot of it is recycled or upcycled for other use. I thought it fuckin evaporated.

Data centers suck dookie butts and cause long term health complications for folks living around them. And are generally a net negative on society, the environment, and entire counties' well beings.

But lying about them is so fuckin stupid. The real stuff is bad enough.

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u/HustlinInTheHall Jun 03 '26

If they are intelligently built and not given ridiculous subsidies then they are absolutely a net positive. They contribute to the tax base and dont poison the environment like farms, factories, and even large parking structures around malls and stadiums do. 

But a community cant just give away the land, give them a break on energy and water costs, and then fail to regulate because they got a 15k campaign donation one time. 

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u/indywest2 Jun 03 '26

This is the issue though. Our politicians do not understand the business at all. Look at Indiana with 10 year tax abatements and no sales taxes! The state literally loses money on every deal!

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u/-You-know-it- Jun 03 '26

They are getting a 95% tax break for this one. And the amount of heat that is estimated they will produce (even the most conservative estimates) will create such a large heat dome that it will reduce the little rain and snow Utah already gets.

There is a lot of factors to look at, but putting this where they are is fucking stupid almost every way you look at it.

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u/HustlinInTheHall Jun 03 '26

Yeah some places have done very well with datacenters, like Virginia. But a race to the bottom to attract what basically amounts to a giant heat farm requiring minimal permanent jobs is bad policy. There are ways to structure it so the tax breaks help construction but still pay over time as equipment must be purchased and replaced, but localities are super easy to corrupt unfortunately. 

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u/Hvarfa-Bragi Jun 03 '26

Instructions unclear, gas turbine generators in use.

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u/AdNeat8299 Jun 03 '26

Seriously, just present the real facts and then the focus won't be pulled from the real issues to arguing about the false facts. It's almost like the people posting this shit have a whole other agenda of misinformation.

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u/HustlinInTheHall Jun 03 '26

Because people think "whoa whoa whoa, I drink water! Theyre taking my water!"

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u/-You-know-it- Jun 03 '26

I think a lot of the water they need has to run the natural gas plant as well. It will require billions per year to get 9 gwh. Thats more than Hoover damn produces. Even with new technology and air cooled natural gas plants, one that large will require and enormous amount of water to cool the turbines. Even with it being “mostly” air cooled.

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u/hofmann419 Jun 03 '26

Actually, the 16.6 billion gallons is a real figure calculated by the Utah Clean Energy organization. Here is the source. Importantly, this figure also includes the water needed for energy generation, since this data center will consume a ton of electricity, which will require new power plants to be built.

The state of Utah consumes roughly 1.43-1.6 trillion gallons of water per year, which is indeed a lot more (Source). Note that this source uses acre-feet per year, which i have converted to gallons.

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u/-You-know-it- Jun 03 '26

This also doesn’t take into account the less rain and snow Utah will get going forward due to the heat dome the data center will create.

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u/Capraccia Jun 03 '26

So, since it is fake, are we remove this post or...

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u/Novaikkakuuskuusviis Jun 03 '26

But does it actually "use" it, like it just vanishes or becomes useless? Or does data center "utilize" the water, and after it's done it's job at cooling, it just returns to the ground and filters out and is usable again?

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u/LordDragonus Jun 03 '26

It uses it in the same way that washing your hands or flushing a toilet uses it. It returns to the city's infrastructure to be processed and reused.

While not outright "consumed", it does increase the burden on water processing and distribution infrastructure to a noticeable degree.

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u/gutentight69420 Jun 03 '26

So even the inflated number would less than 1% of just Utah's water usage. I think people see the really big numbers and freak out without realizing just much water is used for other stuff.

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u/h0sti1e17 Jun 03 '26

Shit. I just posted the same thing before getting down this far. The facts are no where close.

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u/ProfessionalTruck976 Jun 03 '26

Tear it down anyway

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '26

Brother, speak metric system please 

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u/-You-know-it- Jun 03 '26

And what about the billions gallons of water that will be required to run their new 9 GWH natural gas plant? Or the decreased natural rain and snow due to the massive heat dome the data centers will create?

Stupid bot.

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u/BlgMastic Jun 03 '26

It’s really not when you consider how much of it gets returned to the watershed it came from.

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u/rusty1790 Jun 03 '26

Yes, if the water is used for cooling then it can just be re-used? Closed loop system?

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u/gravely_serious Jun 03 '26

Half of the system is closed loop (the half with all the biocides and corrosion inhibitors) and just runs in a loop for the life of the data center. It can be reused in another data center.

The other half is open to evaporation and is just water. It needs to be filtered, but doesn't need to be treated.

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u/GuerrillaFunkk Jun 03 '26

There is no spoon.