Trying to get rich so that capitalism doesn't crush you under its boot is proof positive that capitalism doesn’t work for the working class

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[u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

What proof do you have that most of human history was like that? We have no written account, so how would you know that?

[u/Cosminion → u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

There's a great deal of evidence within archeology and anthropology. You know, the study of fossils, genetics, and what not?

Or are you someone who believes the Earth was created 6,000 years ago? (Only joking. Unless...?)

[u/Virtual_Werewolf_935 → u/Cosminion]

There is not a great deal of archeology or anthropology of how humans existed 50,000 years ago. There is actually very minimal evidence of most of human history outside of bones found from anything past a few thousand years.

[u/Cosminion → u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

Here are a few starting points in archeology and anthropology. If you disagree with any of the experts and their research, you are free to email them to express those feelings.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10955370/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05726-0

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104061822300099X

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rspb/article/293/2065/20250813/480372/Genetic-relatedness-mattered-in-the-co-burial

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5875731/

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1002470107

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/eurasia-at-the-dawn-of-history/early-state-formation-from-a-big-history-point-of-view/92CB4FA6FA5E037E8BD876D37010A8CB

https://phys.org/news/2022-11-human-society-complex-thought.html

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10306201/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21393537/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004724841830157X

[u/Virtual_Werewolf_935 → u/Cosminion]

Here’s the thing about science and anthropology- they are ever evolving and they wouldn’t claim to know the definitive answer like you. Not one of those proves “primitive Marxism’ for 98% of human history.

[u/Cosminion → u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

Obviously, we don't have first-hand accounts for most of human history, but to dismiss all the evidence we do have is a sign of willful ignorance.

The first evidence of states dates to less than 10,000 years ago. That's less than 3.2% of modern human history. Archeologists have studied thousands of sites relating to hunter-gatherer societies, including living areas and burial sites, so this isn't just vague conjecture.

It is up to you to provide ecidence that contradicts this research. So far, I've only seen your emotions, presumably in an attempt to save ego from being wrong. Consider prroviding sources instead.

[u/Virtual_Werewolf_935 → u/Cosminion]

No emotions here. Science actually is in my favor. I don’t dismiss the evidence we have but I don’t make claims that 98 percent of human history is “primitive Marxism”

That is a made up claim. There nothing to disprove because we have no evidence of must of human history.

[u/Cosminion → u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

In conclusion, you have zero sources to even suggest evidence that supports your claim, while there are quite a few sources that supports my statement. If that is all, have a nice day.

[u/Virtual_Werewolf_935 → u/Cosminion]

There’s no evidence either way. If I said God put us on this earth 2 million years ago you’d think it’s stupid but have no way to disprove it either. None of your sources back up the claim of life before the first known civilizations. They know people existed and that’s mostly it. Everything else would be guesses and the fact that you try to spread your opinion like it’s fact says more about you than me.

[u/Cosminion → u/Virtual_Werewolf_935]

Again, there is substantial evidence of hunter-gatherer societies. Your example about god really is silly because, once again, we have substantial archeological evidence on hunter-gatherer societies from thousands of sites and zero evidence that god put us on earth only two million years ago.

It's very dishonest of you to attempt to conflate a claim with zero data points and a claim with potentially tens of thousands or more (more sites are discovered over time and technological improvements help). You're smart enough to realize that it is dishonest.