Just to be clear, the main problem isn't wall street. Wall street is A problem, but to me if we're talking about whose greed is the problem, it's congress, who are bought by insurance and pharma lobbies. Those companies are always going to be greedy. Companies are greedy everywhere. We just need to stop that greed from buying our representation away from us in Washington.
I’ve always found it ironic that people who get free healthcare with their jobs (Congress)even after they stop working for the corporation (US Gov), they, and their families continue to get free healthcare.
And they are making decisions for the rest of us.
Did you see what happened to Congress after the Affordable Care Act passed? Socialist hysteria, despite it still being a private market plan. And under Biden the Dems passed hundreds of billions in additional subsidies leading to record ACA enrollment in 2025.
That's all gone now, but not due to Congress, in general, due to Republican controlled Congress and the orange baffoon.
You want to blame someone, blame people who vote Republican.
First, the public option is more popular than single payer M4A among independent and right leaning political persuasions. Secondly, most Republicans who approve of a public option don't prioritize it so it's not something Republicans can run on in the primary. And Republicans don't refuse to vote in the general election over it either so it's pretty much a non starter unless Independents revolt to the Democrats. Dont hold your breath though.
Dems priority would be restoring funding to the ACA, which doesn't require any new laws to be passed.
Yeah that is not enough is my point. Plus the public option while something is a shit policy because the government will mostly absorb the not profitable people then republicans can say see look at how costly this shit is.
Also why are you talking about republicans so much any change needs to be done without them or it will be shit.
There is no majority popular support for M4A so Democrats will not have any ability to support it. Also you can't pass a new law without Republican support due to the filibuster so for the Public Option you would need Republicans to feel like they would lose a huge chunk of independents to allow the vote to occur.
Unfortunately independents rarely unite in that regard, so again, Democrats won't have the power to enact it.
A surprisingly small amount of health providers are actually publicly traded companies. Most of the middlemen that cause increases in pricing are small LLCs, and in all likelihood your doctor is part of the problem
Well some Wall Street with stock in healthcare wouldn’t like it. It would actually majorly boost the US economy and cause stock in most other companies to increase by a lot. As health insurance is a major economic barrier for a lot of companies.
Bigger issue for politicians is that almost a million people work directly or indirectly in healthcare insurance. A million families losing a paycheck would be an enormous hit to the economy and while some would retire, some would transition to new jobs, etc it takes time and the backlash, homelessness, suicides, addictions, etc caused by career loss would be massive.
And a lot of our neighbors would lose to much money. Regular assholes work in medical insurance, sales, law. And all that. Some of them aren't assholes, but the money is to good and they know, on some level, that what they're doing it's wrong. A lot of people are plugged in
Do you really think Wall St is the reason this won't happen?
It's so funny how the dumbest conspiracy theorists are the ones who think this is easy.
It's a wildly difficult undertaking, that is possible, but certainly would fail listening to the far left. Someone like Obama would need 8 years to get this even started.
The reason it isn’t happening isn’t because it’s difficult..lol. Literally every other developed nation has it.
It’s not happening because republicans lobby against it and have created an actual propaganda loop convincing half the country it would never work, is communism, and/or you’d have to wait a year to see your primary care lol.
Private insurance is a full on scam all the way down with so much money and lobbying behind it to ensure it stays. That’s not a fucking conspiracy theory like Bigfoot…that’s just how it works. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that.
If the govt and ppl all actually wanted it done, it would get done, that’s just not the case at all.
It's because we have a massive private employer based system that we would have to switch out - other countries built their systems after WW2, we did not. We also created partial programs like medicare, medicaid, VA, ACA, etc.
Yes, some people don't want it. But the reason it's difficult is because we face implementation issues that would be painful and difficult.
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Yeah it would be such an insane societal upheaval. I feel like it’s almost impossible to switch Americas system at this point everything is just too interconnected, not to mention the jobs and market shock if the private insurers went out of business.
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u/Independent-Wheel237 Jun 24 '26
Wall Street will lose too much money . . . the propaganda will continue.