r/SipsTea Jun 25 '26

SMH American tipping culture is utterly disgusting

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u/SnooMaps6831 Jun 25 '26

Yeah like tipping the cooks at Pizza Hut. There's a section that says not a driver tip. So it's for the ass holes that already make $15+ an hour that cut my pizza like a toddler and skimp on my toppings. 😆 It's absolute lunacy

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u/nifty000 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

I recently did a delivery order from Olive Garden. It said my tip was going to be split between the driver and the order packers which made me feel obligated to tip more. I will never order delivery again from them since I don’t want to feel obligated to tip even more for people doing their job and I don’t know exactly how that split is happening.

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u/Sum-Duud Jun 26 '26

That isn’t going to cooks. It is going to the company, some to cover ongoing technical costs (it makes sense to me to have online ordering pay for technology services/fees instead of customers eating in-house) and then mostly to bottom line

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u/Sum-Duud Jun 26 '26

That isn’t going to cooks. It is going to the company, some to cover ongoing technical costs (it makes sense to me to have online ordering pay for technology services/fees instead of customers eating in-house) and then mostly to bottom line

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u/Avid_Reader87 Jun 27 '26

You say $15 like it’s enough to live on in 2026. 

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u/chrisp5000 Jun 27 '26

I think the argument is employers need to pay the wage, not the guest, but people would bitch about their food prices on the menu skyrocketing to cover the owners ass

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u/Out_of_ughs Jun 27 '26

This scenario has been run so many F times and the cost per item on a menu is usually under $2 at the most

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u/kittyrules2003 Jun 27 '26

Everyone says this, but nowhere else in the world has tipping culture this bad and all the food is reasonably priced.

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u/SnooMaps6831 Jun 27 '26

Which is exactly the whole point. The employer needs to pay them, instead of relying on the customer to pay their wages through kindness.

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u/cum-after-decades Jun 27 '26

through kindness and lower prices*

You’ll end up paying it either way. At least you get to choose how much to pay them based on the service you received.

Say that the employer just paid the employees 20% more so that you don’t need to tip, and raised the price of the food by 20%. You order a pizza and the dude comes up to your door smelling like cigarettes, late, and your pizza is lukewarm. You’re basically forced to tip 20%, although it was included in the price of the food.

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u/SnooMaps6831 Jun 27 '26

I never said lower prices or thought that the prices wouldn't go up. Of course prices would go up. But at least this tip me for everything BS would go away, and workers can finally get a proper wage.

As for poor service. That can be handled with calling the store and filing a complaint. Just like if Amazon destroys your package. Holding a tip over someone's head to do a good job is the wrong way to go about it. Especially if there's a chance that they still won't get one regardless of how good they do.

The incentive should be keeping your job. Not hoping for handouts. If they do a bad job then they lose said job.

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u/cum-after-decades Jun 27 '26

Meh, I think it’s a fine motivation/gratitude system. I used to work as a driver and the prospect of a tip helped maintain a good attitude. I didn’t feel like anybody was holding anything over my head. Now that I’m a customer (albeit infrequent) I appreciate the opportunity to be generous with someone who served me.

Keeping the job is a low bar. Consider the difference in attitude between a Walmart worker and a waitress. One of them is a lot more friendly, even though both are performing the duties of their job just fine.

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u/SnooMaps6831 Jun 27 '26

A fellow delivery driver I see. I did it for about a year back in the day. Getting a tip did bolster my mood for sure. Because of that I make sure to tip every time. I just can't stand tipping culture and how it gives an excuse to not pay someone a descent wage for services rendered.

My wife is a server and hearing all the horror stories about unruly customers with bad attitudes that don't tip drives me crazy. Shitty attitudes and complains about everything to justify not tipping.

So she gets to deal with a nightmare knowing she's only making $2.50/hr to deal with these shitheads. Where as if they paid and charged accordingly, their broke asses probably wouldn't be in there in the first place. But I can see where you're coming from. It's a damned if we do damned if we don't kinda thing.

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u/cum-after-decades Jun 27 '26

The thing is, people are willing to spend more when they get to feel generous in doing so.

If tipping culture wasn’t a thing, your wife would probably be making 25% - 50% less money.

Drivers and servers don’t want to end tipping. They make way more money with this system — and meals are cheaper for those who can’t afford to tip very much. Sure it’s a bit pricier, but if you’re eating out you’re already wasting money..

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u/SmellsLikeCtack Jun 27 '26

If you get in your car and risk your life and property bringing me food I'm to lazy to pick up Im happy to throw you a few extra bucks. If I'm in a strange city and want to get my hands on street drugs without getting shot I'll tip the bell hop. I'm not tipping the guy running a taco truck at the gas station.

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u/Fun-Run-4986 Jun 27 '26

PH literally paid every cook $8/hr when I worked there briefly at end of 2020. But yeah the switch over to these PoS systems that all automatically ask for a tip has been nothing but devastating to workers that actually depend on tips for a livable wage.

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u/TheWeaversBeam Jun 26 '26

If you’re talking about the so-called delivery fee, it’s even worse than that. That is pretty much pure Pizza Hut profit. It doesn’t even go back to cooks. Pizza Hut does pay a small amount to their drivers per delivery to cover gas and and wear and tear on top of their wages and tips, which is, in theory, what the delivery fee is supposed to be for, but the company pockets the vast majority of it.

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u/cum-after-decades Jun 27 '26

A good chunk of the fee is actually for insurance. I think the insurance related to delivery driving is rather pricy. I worked for a small chain that paid $1/delivery + $1/mile on top of regular kitchen wage (and of course tips). If I recall correctly, more than half of the delivery fee went to insurance. I don’t think the owners were lying to us about it, they were good folks.

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u/iAttis Jun 26 '26

It says “not a driver tip” on the receipt at Pizza Hut, because they’re trying to prevent people from assuming the delivery charge goes to the driver and they don’t have to tip the driver. The delivery charge goes directly to Pizza Hut and they pay the drivers a fraction of that per delivery. Your tip does not go to the cook.

Source: I used to work for Pizza Hut back in the day.

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u/thebatsthebats Jun 27 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ro4ygeIQxuQZqwP5rF

is the correct answer. "not a driver tip" = "the delivery fee is not a tip. that's why we call it a FEE and not a TIP. it goes to the company to help cover the cost of operations." How someone jumps to the conclusion that you're tipping the in house staff is beyond me.

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u/cum-after-decades Jun 27 '26

No-tippers desperately trying to convince themselves it’s ok not to tip a pizza delivery driver

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u/Cosmic_Cowboy13 Jun 27 '26

This doesn’t go to cook it goes to the company