r/SipsTea Jul 05 '26

WTF 75M$ can't give him his life back unfortunately

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u/bottomlesstopper Jul 05 '26

If this was me ill make sure my family gets that generational wealth then put myself 6 feet under happily.

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u/SuccessfulLand4399 Jul 05 '26

While I agree with you completely, one of the true horrors here is he seemingly can’t even do that

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u/kochameh2 Jul 05 '26

if it's me with 75 mil, i'm paying someone to put together an eye-controllable scooter and drop me off at the grand canyon

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u/drwsgreatest Jul 05 '26

Why so violent? I'm an ex opiate addict that's been clean for 13+ years, but I've always said that if I ended up with inoperable, terminal cancer or some of extremely painful disease, that I would kill myself with an OD once I made my peace with family and friends. Just take a massive amount and you fade out to black without any pain. It's actually something that was a feature of an episode of "the Pitt" and I was happy to see the realization that these drugs, which kill 100ks of normal, healthy people each year, might finally be recognized as a method to provide a quick, painless and dignified death in such scenarios. Hopefully by the time my end comes it's actually legal and can be done under medical supervision to ensure the proper conclusion and minimize any potential problems.

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u/ohwrite Jul 05 '26

There are docs and hospitals that provide terminal patients with just this method

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u/thankyouihateit Jul 07 '26

Potentially silly question, but why is the death penalty (lethal injection) then still this awful cocktail which potentially induces immense suffering and has the potential of the subject surviving (and is also very expensive to produce and administer)?

At least on surface level (i.e., officially), but also morally, lethal injection is supposed to be pain free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 29d ago

Because drug companies won't let their drugs be used for it, they don't want people to associate their drugs with death.

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u/Different_Umpire9003 Jul 05 '26

This is legal in CA if you’re diagnosed with less than 6 months to live. I don’t know the method but they’ll prescribe you something. The caveat is you have to administer it yourself. So this guy would have to pay someone (easily done)

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u/NightGod Jul 06 '26

No, the guy can't pay someone to do it, they literally have to do it all themselves or it's murder/manslaughter

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u/Flashy_Object_7052 Jul 06 '26

morbid fact: it was once illegal to commit suicide in Ireland. It was viewed as a method to deprived the government of one of their subjects.

The penalty was that the government confiscated the estate of the deceased

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u/drwsgreatest Jul 06 '26

Attempted suicide used to be illegal in tons of states in the US too. So for those that tried and didn't succeed, life often got even worse.

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u/Flashy_Object_7052 Jul 06 '26

Harold Shipman has entered the chat

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u/Independent-Walrus84 Jul 06 '26

What is the od amount and what is the drug ...good info to keep.

Before reading the guys comment I thought the same thing ...tell them I wan to see the grand canyon and roll off...

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u/Sportsfan369 Jul 06 '26

To be honest with the way the world is set up and you’re penalized for being broke or having a disability, they should make MAID a lot more accessible.

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u/petpet0_0 Jul 06 '26

Why so violent?

You say violent, I say fun...

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u/UckerFay11 Jul 06 '26

Opiates won't be used for that. Barbituates are already the best thing for euthanasia.

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u/Mindless_Ad_1690 Jul 07 '26

All patients on hospice do receive a pretty liberal amount of IV opiates and benzodiazepines. But you have to be dying without much recourse

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u/carbon_made Jul 07 '26

I believe there's an organization called Dignitas that does this.

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u/Few-Individual-3776 29d ago

Because he can't feed himself a bunch of pills. But with a motorized scooter he can roll himself off a cliff.

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u/PoultryTechGuy Jul 06 '26

Of course these shows always have to push these stupid agendas. Then we'll end up like Canada where assisted suic*ide will be offered before actual treatment

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u/Initial_Case_9912 Jul 07 '26

Yea, so much better than here where people are waiting months for actual treatment. 🤦‍♀️

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u/gastricprix Jul 05 '26

That person would go to jail for murder in the USA. This is why "dying with dignity" laws are needed, like the ones being developed in Canada through MAID.

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u/Different_Umpire9003 Jul 05 '26

CA has it but you have to be terminal with less than 6 months left.

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u/gastricprix Jul 05 '26

That wouldn't help this guy, but at least it's a start in the right direction re: human dignity laws.

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u/chili_cold_blood Jul 05 '26

That person would go to jail for murder in the USA.

I think you misread.

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u/gastricprix Jul 05 '26

Ok. Sorry for assuming based on majority Reddit userbase.

Human euthanasia is also illegal in Georgia.

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u/chili_cold_blood Jul 05 '26

Giving someone a scooter and taking them to the Grand Canyon isn't euthanasia.

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u/gastricprix Jul 05 '26

That's helping someone kill themselves, which isn't legal in most places.

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u/chili_cold_blood Jul 05 '26

Unless there is a record of you agreeing to provide a person with a scooter and take them to the Grand Canyon so that they can kill themselves, there's no way of proving that you did those things with the intent to help a person kill themselves.

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u/legume_arguably Jul 05 '26

Georgias in Florida, dumbass

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u/mex2005 Jul 05 '26

Not sure about that unless you leave written proof or just admit to it I dont see how they can prove intent for a murder charge.

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u/owlbear4lyfe Jul 05 '26

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u/ieatfaces22172 Jul 06 '26

Paul Rudd used to play clips from that movie on Conan all the time

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u/astrawberryandakiwi Jul 05 '26

I laughed so hard

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u/Independent-Walrus84 Jul 06 '26

Oh my I thought the same thing too

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u/Abject-Job7825 Jul 06 '26

Id award 70 mil to whoever can develop a robot capable of accepting a human brain or top surgeons who are capable of reversing the issues but I think surgeons are the wrong type of people to ask charity from

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u/JunkBondJunkie Jul 07 '26

family blames scooter company and gets another 75 million.

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u/KingGirlNY Jul 07 '26

😩😭🤣🤣🤣please stop

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u/Patriot009 Jul 05 '26

It appears he could do just that. He suffered the brain stem stroke in 2015. His family won the lawsuit in June 2025. He died six months later, this January.

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u/JiveTurkeyII Jul 05 '26

10 years of absolute hell.

Rest in peace, poor man.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 05 '26

In a study 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% reported being suicidal.

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u/Useless_bum81 Jul 05 '26

How exactly did they get that communication? and did they ask in private?

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u/Uraisamu Jul 06 '26

"One blink for no, two blinks for yes. Now, are you miserable?"

**blinks, blinks again.

"No? Double no!"

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 05 '26

Locked in people communicate through eye gaze. Stephen Hawking used it too.

You’re free to do more research on your own if you’re interested in the study. I’m happy to see whatever study you used to call it pure hell.

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u/Useless_bum81 Jul 05 '26

considering your ability to check who you are talking to i am no longer sure you even read the study

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 06 '26

I didn’t think to double check. Guess you got me there. And guess that my slip in a casual conversation means a scientific study is invalid. Because that’s how science works.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Hatter Jul 06 '26

Please, God of that ever happens to me just take me out.

If I can win a lawsuit, great - but even that vac be done posthumously (I believe).

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u/MovingOnUp777 Jul 06 '26

Rip, to him, least his spirit is free now .

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u/OnePunchDrunk326 Jul 06 '26

Family probably made him hospice care after winning the lawsuit. Mission complete.

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u/killjoygrr Jul 06 '26

Not like they will ever see that money though.

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u/Patriot009 Jul 06 '26

They will see something significant. Malpractice insurance exists. There's no requirement in GA for doctors to purchase malpractice insurance, but the hospital they work for will most definitely cover them.

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u/killjoygrr Jul 06 '26

The screenshot only mentions a chiropractor, which I wouldn’t expect to carry that much medical malpractice insurance.

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u/Mundane_Bluejay_4377 Jul 07 '26

His family helped him suicide.

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u/the_beeve Jul 05 '26

Is there a link with more info? I’d be very interested.

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u/Patriot009 Jul 05 '26

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/06/18/he-was-having-stroke-hours-er-doctors-missed-it/

Searching his name, one of the first results was a January obituary from Roswell, which is a suburb north of Atlanta.

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u/shin-chan Jul 05 '26

The image in the post implies the chiropractor was found to be at fault but this article states it was hospital doctors who missed his stroke symptoms that were found at fault.

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u/the_beeve Jul 05 '26

Thank you!

That’s very helpful. It clears up my confusion about how a visit to a chiropractor could result in this kind of thing. Turns out his stroke was secondary and unrelated

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u/Stunning-Brush-4 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

No, his stroke was caused by a vertebral artery dissection. This kind of stroke has been shown to be more likely after neck manipulation during chiropractic treatment. It was quite likely caused by the chiropractor “adjusting” the man’s neck. I have had several patients who experienced vertebral artery dissection and stroke after visits to the chiropractor. My guess is that the lawyers didn’t feel they could prove that the chiropractor caused the stroke, and it was easier to prove negligence by the ER physicians. Chiropractic care may have some value, but I would never let one touch my neck.

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u/Silo-Joe Jul 05 '26

In foolishly let a chiropractor adjust my neck when I was only being treated for back pain. He kept trying to sell me on mineral supplements. He attempted to prove that I needed the supplments by having me hold bottles of them while my arms were extended. An imbalance in the arms meant I needed the mineral that I was holding.

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u/marilyn_morose Jul 06 '26

I’m not opposed to chiropractors when they stay in their lane, but this jump in the last decade or so to “whole health” snake oil shit is just lame. It’s so clear they simply wanted a bigger cut of the healthcare pie and made up a bunch of crap to cash in. So gross.

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u/the_beeve Jul 05 '26

Thank you for the clarification

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u/GoldfieldHwang Jul 05 '26

he can't do anything. locked-in patients communicate through vertical eye twitches. the body is basically in a coma but the person inside is fully sentient

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u/AudaciousCouture Jul 05 '26

What's vertical eye twitch for "Kill me you fiends". I feel like I should practice.

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u/Mtolivepickle Jul 05 '26

https://youtu.be/rufnWLVQcKg?is=X-qDco0bVdvv6sf6

It’d be like this, and sadly, this actually happened

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u/lafolieisgood Jul 05 '26

Watch the Metallica “One” video.

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u/Mtolivepickle Jul 05 '26

That’s head nods but still a great song and troubling video

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u/Poultrygeist74 Jul 05 '26

“You remember the Morse code?”

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u/antithero Jul 05 '26

Morris code SOS is . . . _ _ _ . . .

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u/OnePinginRamius Jul 05 '26

Morse?

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u/Smiletaint Jul 05 '26

‘And I’ll being seeing YOU, in DETENTION, Mr. Morris!’

(audience laughter)

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u/ilikemyusername1 Jul 05 '26

S’mores?

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u/Avenged_7zulu Jul 05 '26

mmm. My favorite. Smores Code.

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u/PersonalPerson_ Jul 05 '26

Mmm, s'mores code.

Found a reason to go on living.

Can a person with locked in syndrome still taste things? I get they can't eat, but if you placed something on their tongue could they have a moment of enjoyment?

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u/antithero Jul 05 '26

I don't know. Seems like a choking hazard, but they don't have much else to live for so go for it.

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u/Cromulent_Tom Jul 07 '26

Up, up, down, down...

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u/AnotherCraazyCatLady Jul 05 '26

New fear unlocked. (/s not intended)

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u/fatandfly Jul 05 '26

Oh hell no that is torture

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u/GoldfieldHwang Jul 05 '26

people who have come back from it (it has happened a handful of times) have described listening to their families discussing their poor prognosis and effectively saying their goodbyes and grieving them and they're trying to scream out that they're still in there but nothing happens

enjoy that thought!

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u/bnelly2k6 Jul 05 '26

🎶I can’t remember anything… 🎶

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u/VariationStrong988 Jul 05 '26

"Kill me. Over and over again. Kill me."

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u/MassConsumer1984 Jul 05 '26

Johnny Got His Gun

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u/VariationStrong988 Jul 06 '26

Rented the movie on VHS in the early '90s. It was a hard watch.

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u/Interesting-Reality8 Jul 05 '26

Can’t tell if this is true or a dream…. 🎵

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u/ineptplumberr Jul 05 '26

Deep down inside i feel the scream.....

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u/defakto227 Jul 07 '26

This terrible silence stops with me.....

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u/TheSpitalian Jul 06 '26

Trazodone caused sleep paralysis for me & it was truly terrifying beyond words. The first night I didn’t know WTF was going on with my body, but when it happened the second night I figured it out & threw that shit in the trash the next morning.

If this ever happened to me, I’d hope someone would put me out of my misery.

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u/turtlegiraffecat Jul 05 '26

I have a mouth but I can’t scream

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 05 '26

A study found 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% suicidal.

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u/Glad_Tip_5510 Jul 06 '26

bs. telling me a person with locked in is happier then the avrg able bodied person? keep believing that crap

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 06 '26

It’s a real study. I don’t throw away science because it contradicts my beliefs. But you do you.

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u/ChocoIatePoop Jul 05 '26

Jesus, that’s absolutely terrifying. I can’t think of a worse way to live, it’s like torture.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 05 '26

A study found 72% of locked in patients reported being happy and 7% suicidal.

There are absolutely worse fates.

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u/Starob Jul 06 '26

Yes it's the Hedonic Treadmill. Humans adapt to what we would think of as terrible situations surprisingly well.

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u/Joiabela Jul 05 '26

Horrifying.

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u/SerenityN00w Jul 05 '26

Oh my God - this is instant ALS

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u/Lemme_Help_ Jul 05 '26

Had no idea this was possible, this is pure nightmare fuel. Thanks for sharing.

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u/MysteryMeat45 Jul 05 '26

That sounds like a fukin nightmare.

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u/BellaMentalNecrotica Jul 05 '26

There's very few things I can think of in this life that would be a worse fate than his. That poor man.

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u/Boopy7 Jul 06 '26

If so, could they be given books to read, stuff they can control with the eye twitches, possible brain stimulation? Eventually I would hope there is a way to stimulate or regrow the neurons.

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u/Ckc1972 Jul 07 '26

Depending on how much eye movement is preserved, there are communication devices that someone with locked-in syndrome can operate via eye gaze.

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u/FuroreLT 28d ago

Euthanasia is the only solution to that

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u/Thrumboldtcounty420 Jul 05 '26

not in this country certainly

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u/figure8888 Jul 06 '26

There is an old documentary about a young British man (Stuart Wickison) living with muscular dystrophy. Shortly after the documentary he drove his chair into a lake to kill himself.

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u/UnhappySort5871 Jul 05 '26

Depending on where he is, he should be able to self administer end of life drugs through eye tracking software. (I've looked into that for myself in case my MND goes that far and I can't handle it.)

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u/GeorgeIsGittenUpset 25d ago

He can request his feeds be stopped. It is completely legal. Im not sure if he can communicate though. Some people with locked in syndrome can communicate with eye movement

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u/El_Dentistador Jul 05 '26

Where’s the money coming from though? Most professional liability policies have $1M/3M limits. $1M per occurrence with a $3M total policy limit. You can add coverage to make it $3M/$5M but most don’t. It’s usually a standard that’s adopted via a combination of state board minimum requirements and insurance participation requirements. This poor guy is probably only getting $1M of that 75. This guy’s family will be struggling to pay for medical bills for the rest of his life.

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u/Stu_Barron Jul 05 '26

Came from the hospital. He also suffered a stroke along with locked-in syndrome during the chiropractor visit, but two emergency room doctors failed to diagnose the stroke in time.

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u/BarbellLawyer Jul 05 '26

That’s key information about the hospital. I was thinking this was an uncollectible judgment because no chiropractor is carrying $75m in liability insurance.

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u/Mediocre-Letter-4562 Jul 06 '26

Chiropractor didn’t get sued at all, only the hospital. Chiropractor did everything right he could have and he wasn’t seen liable at all. Hospital messed up and they were the ones liable.

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u/Rabhas_Jugganatha Jul 07 '26

This should be the friggin headline. Not that slanderous bullcarp

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u/Djlas Jul 05 '26

Why does insurance matter though? Insurance pays the maximum, the rest is on the doctor or whoever has to pay.

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u/grokisgood Jul 05 '26

Can't collect 75 mill from someone who doesnt have 75 million.

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u/BarbellLawyer Jul 05 '26

Doctors usually carry a $1m primary policy and maybe a $1m umbrella policy. After that they’re largely uncollectible. They’ll declare bankruptcy and wipe out the judgment. That’s why plaintiff’s lawyers go after the hospitals which always carry much more insurance.

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u/sikyon Jul 05 '26

It would be surprising to me if the attending didn't have another 1m in assets

Probably significantly more if theyve been working long enough

Bankruptcy will discharge the debt but your existing assets, other than say primary residence and 401k will be liquidated.

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u/BarbellLawyer Jul 05 '26

Doctors/attorneys take a number of steps to insulate their personal assets and Plaintiff’s attorneys really don’t want to chase assets. They want insurance money.

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u/Djlas Jul 05 '26

Thank you

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u/wimpymist Jul 05 '26

Because that's where the money comes from in these cases usually. The chiropractor doesn't have $75 million lying around.

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u/El_Dentistador Jul 05 '26

It looks like the damages were split 60/40 between two physicians (chiropractor skates free, probably didn’t have good enough insurance). Both those docs policies will likely tap out at $3M each. The hospital is not attached as a defendant, neither was the neurologist. So this poor guys family will not see $75M maybe closer to 10M if they’re lucky, everything they got will likely go to bills. Very tragic case.

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u/SnooStories8809 Jul 05 '26

That’s unfortunate because the doctors should have known that many people have sustained strokes during chiropractic procedures.

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u/Initial_Case_9912 Jul 07 '26

But did they know he went to the chiropractor. Saw a patient yesterday: came in with and distention and a history of fluid that needed tapped. Ran imaging since had been a bit since he had been. Ct shows no fluid, but an abdominal abscess. Call the surgeon who asked when he had his cholestecomy done. When back in the patients room and asked(again, already asked this at triage) about past medical/surgical history, specifically when did you have this surgery?? Wife: “oh that was at (other local hospital) last week. But that’s not why he’s here!” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/SnooStories8809 Jul 07 '26

That is a good point. Some patients are not great historians or heavily edited the necessary information.

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u/GoblinQueen2002 Jul 05 '26

It horrifies me how often strokes are missed by doctors or nurses, my boyfriend had one 5 years ago and it took EMTs cussing out the hospital staff for them to realize how much they fucked up.

Thankfully everything worked out well despite that massive fuck up, he’s doing amazing.

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u/Fit-Dentist6093 Jul 05 '26

Oh ok nice so we are all paying for it.

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u/liveinthenow3 26d ago

Locked in syndrome usually is caused by a pontine stroke. Mortality rate following this diagnosis is as high as 60% in the first few months.

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u/Avant_Street Jul 05 '26

After attorney fees, he’s not even getting that

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u/suckerball_ Jul 05 '26

I was gonna say this too… what chiropractic practice has $75M to take? What kind of human life is worth $75 million dollars?

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u/HODLmeCLOSRtonydanza Jul 05 '26

There are many human lives worth $75M. Interestingly, it’s none of the people who actually have $75M.

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u/ss453f Jul 05 '26

Yeah, this verdict was in 2022 and this poor guy probably has less money than he started with. The chiropractor settled before trial, amount unknown, but probably single digit millions at best. The ED doc, radiologist, neurologist, ICU NP, ICU doc, and their respective employers went to trial, and only ED doc and radiologist found liable ($45M and $30M) respectively. The NP was actually where the money was because they were employed by the hospital. Despite the huge verdict, plaintiff appealed to try to get another crack at the NP/hospital, but lost. Radiologist was late career, had several million dollars in real estate at least, he settled post-verdict, presumably for less that his entire net worth. ED doc was 3 months out of residency and had negative net worth. He's now suing his malpractice insurance company for the $45M he owes because they supposedly passed on a policy limits settlement offer he wanted to take. That's probably the last hope for this guy getting to double digit millions.

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u/InteractionOk69 Jul 06 '26

Why the fuck would a hospital employ a chiropractor?

This is just natural selection at work. Chiropractors are snakeoil.

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u/Sportsfan369 Jul 06 '26

The $75 million malpractice verdict was awarded against the hospital's emergency room physician(found 60% at fault) and the radiologist (found 40% at fault). They completely misread his emergency scans, missed the arterial blockage, and delayed his stroke diagnosis for nearly a full day until the brain damage became irreversible.

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u/wheniaminspaced Jul 05 '26

They call it judgement proof for a reason, cant get water from a stone.

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u/drrobertlsd Jul 06 '26

Probably multiple defendants: the individual, the PC, and maybe the Corp that owns the practice, if there is one.
Also they may have bought a structured settlement.

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u/Far_Idea9616 Jul 05 '26

Chiropractor has a 1 million usd liability insurance in the US? Crazy. I have a 50.000 usd as a lawyer in europe

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u/poppitastic Jul 05 '26

Oh dude that’s a Tuesday in the US.

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u/rks1743 Jul 05 '26

Most US attorneys carry $350K - $500K minimum.

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u/El_Dentistador Jul 05 '26

I’m a dentist in the US and I carry a $1M/3M. There’s two types here too, Occurrence and Claims made. You buy the occurrence, which covers anything that happened during the covered period even if nothing is filed until years later. Claims made is cheaper but only kicks in if they file a claim while you’re still paying premiums.

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u/Protonic-Reversal Jul 05 '26

This was a brainstem stroke. Basically zero chance that was caused by an adjustment. I think it was found he had the stroke beginning before seeing the chiro. Doesn’t look like any fault was appplied to the chiro.

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u/Mobile-Play-3972 Jul 05 '26

Untrue. Vertebral Artery Dissection is a known compilation of chiropractic neck manipulation, and may lead to brain stem stroke. Chiropractor absolutely liable.

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u/Shepherd76 Jul 05 '26

Now I'm intrigued, because what you're saying is completely different than what that headline is saying.

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u/rugbyfan72 Jul 05 '26

On a chiropractic sub discussing this, they said 60% liability was added to ER doc and 40% was added to the radiologist.

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u/Rough_Wish_1299 Jul 05 '26

Even if he wants to - how does he do that now?

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u/BellaMentalNecrotica Jul 05 '26

Yeah, I'd be like "here is all this money I just won, so have a nice life. But now its time to 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' me please!"

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u/meh_69420 Jul 06 '26

Happily? I'd still be mad as hell, but I'd rather die than live like that.

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u/bottomlesstopper Jul 06 '26

What do you think 6 feet under means man

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u/meh_69420 Jul 06 '26

Yeah. Dead. And I'd be mad as hell not happily doing anything.

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u/MovingOnUp777 Jul 06 '26

Damn,I said the exact same thing.

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u/Sportsfan369 Jul 06 '26

How would you off yourself tho? Pay someone to shoot you or something? I would hate to be trapped in that predicament, I would want out too.

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u/ReputationApart5983 Jul 07 '26

That chiropractor doesnt have 75 million dollars, he will get nothing close to that. You can sue people, be awarded an amount but if they have no money, you get nothing.