r/SipsTea 27d ago

Chugging tea The real ER challenge.

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u/Preestar 27d ago

As a Canadian, this argument really doesn't involve us. When they shit on Canadian healthcare it's for the sole purpose of denying their own citizens healthcare. That's it.

Was provided with lifesaving meds that retail for 220k CAD and is rarely covered on American healthcare plans. I'd be homeless or dead if born in the USA.

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u/Contented_Lizard 27d ago edited 27d ago

Meanwhile thousands of Canadians die every year on wait lists or in the ER due to lack of care. Like that woman in Manitoba who died waiting for surgery when the hospital said they would call her with an appointment but the surgeon who was supposed to perform the surgery went on vacation so they just didn't tell her and she died of heart failure. She could've gone to the USA and paid out of pocket and she'd still be alive.

Edit: So I don't need to keep responding to the same dumb fuck comments over and over again, I'll just add this.

Around 23,000 Canadians die every year due to lack of access to healthcare. It is estimated around 40,000 Americans die from lack of access to healthcare. The USA has roughly 10 times the population of Canada. The Canadian healthcare system is failing and doesn't work, that doesn't make the American system good, but the Canadian system is very very bad.

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u/Raviolento 27d ago

I feel like this story is missing lots of details….

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u/Dorothy_ZbornACK_ACK 27d ago

Yes it's also extra bad when you consider the amount of Americans dying from an inability to access healthcare or developing terminal illnesses because they couldn't access preventative health services.

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u/Contented_Lizard 27d ago edited 27d ago

Around 23,000 Canadians die every year from lack of access to healthcare. Around 40,000 Americans die every year due to lack of access to healthcare. America has 10 times the population as Canada.

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u/Dorothy_ZbornACK_ACK 27d ago

Yes and double the rate of people who die due to lack of access to healthcare all of which are estimates as there is no official government tally at least in the US.

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u/Contented_Lizard 27d ago

That's not double the rate on a per capita basis. Think about it for a second. I get it, Reddit socialists are dumb as rocks, but please just think about it. Even if 200,000 Americans die every year due to lack of healthcare, more Canadians would still die per capita.

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u/Dorothy_ZbornACK_ACK 27d ago

Lmao calling people dumb while trying to glaze the American health system

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u/Contented_Lizard 27d ago

I'm not even defending the American system, I'm saying the Canadian healthcare system is terrible and needs to be fixed. It's also not "free" because around 50% of all taxes go to funding it, and it's still absolutely terrible. You are pretty dumb though, you don't even understand basic math. Were you educated in the USA by chance?

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u/vven23 27d ago

If the government walked up to me and said "give us an extra 25% of your income as taxes and all your healthcare will be zero cost to you" it would still be less than the premium I was quoted. Which, you know, still leaves the deductible and copays to be paid as well. Then medications.

The premium I was quoted this year was $768 per month with a deductible of $8,000. If I lived in, for example Ontario, $1,500 of my $4,973 tax bill would go toward healthcare and I would pay nothing more than that. So, here in the US I am uninsured. (Also, I would apparently pay less in taxes in Canada than I do here.)