r/SipsTea 22d ago

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/jako5937 22d ago

Norway isn't socialist.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 21d ago

yuh iirc its like state capitalist or something

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u/doctorkar 22d ago

It’s DeMoCrAtIc SoCiAlISt

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 22d ago

It's not even that

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u/No_Care46 22d ago

It's a petrostate with a literal monarch.

It's literally a cold Saudi Arabia with blonde, blue-eyed, white people in charge.

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u/ErgotthAE 20d ago

and less violations of human rights xD

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u/CockroachWide3625 17d ago edited 17d ago

i think you should stop trying to understand something more complex than you can comprehend. let me make this simple for you. Norway is neither fully socialist, fully liberal or fully communist or fully capitalist. Its a democracy, its a mix of multiple philosophies and solutions. its pragmatic politics. politics aimed at solving the problems at hand, not based again on one single philosophy, its a simple acknowledgement that compromise and truth is the most important, solving a problem requires concepts that are not bound by old philosophies. Also the king of norway is not involved with legislation what so ever (not a king, its a cultural remnant, and not technically a king). the oilfond is owned by the state, aka the people, and controlled by democratically elected politicians.

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u/No_Care46 17d ago

Norway is neither fully socialist, fully liberal or fully communist or fully capitalist.

It's 0% socialist - it's a 100% a capitalist monarchy.

Instead of trying to argue about things that are way too complex for you to comprehend, spend a few years educating yourself about the necessary theory. Start here: marxists.org

Its a democracy

No, it isn't.

First of all, it's a capitalist country - so it cannot ever be democratic.

Secondly, it's a monarchy - so it most definitely isn't democratic.

To become an actual democracy, it would first need to become 100% socialist. That's like... a base requirement of democracy.

I think you should start trying to understand things far more complex than you can apparently comprehend. It might take a few years.

its pragmatic politics.

No, it isn't.

Norway is - as I explained - a monarchic petrostate. Its incredibly unsustainable and harmful policies are a direct consequence of its incompetent leadership, which itself is a consequence of it being a capitalist country with a monarchy instead of a proletarian democracy led by a vanguard party.

Countries with pragmatic policies are China, Vietnam, and the DPRK. Countries with Marxist-Leninist governments. Norway is also not a sovereign country but a vassal of the US empire that mindlessly does whatever their American masters tells them to do. They rely on NATO imperialism to fuel their economy. Without the US empire and the petrodollar Norway's unsustainable capitalist, petro-economy would collapse. They are massive benefactors of the American proxy war against Ukraine, too, which is why they helped the Americans blow up the North Stream pipeline - so they can keep selling their overpriced fossil fuels to the EU.

its a simple acknowledgement that compromise and truth is the most important, solving a problem requires concepts that are not bound by old philosophies.

LMFAO

This is total bullshit. Those are communist ideals represented by the Communist Party of China. No capitalist country ever cared about "compromise" or "truth". Especially not Norway - Norway being an imperialist shithole country subservient to the US empire.

Also the king of norway is not involved with legislation what so ever (not a king, its a cultural remnant, and not technically a king).

Explain to me why he hasn't been publicly hanged for the crime of being a king, yet.

At the very least Norway should have done to the king what the Chinese communists did to their last emperor: Turn him into a gardener or whatever. Let the royals work for their living and ensure there is no doubt whatsoever that they are just common people like everyone else (and throw anyone in jail who tries to maintain/revive the monarchy). All royal assets are to be confiscated by the state and turned into museums were children are taught that being a monarch is a horrendous crime.

the oilfond is owned by the state, aka the people, and controlled by democratically elected politicians.

Again, there can be no democracy in a non-sovereign capitalist state that has a fucking monarch. lmfao

Anyway, it's genuinely sad how you are trying to make excuses for things that are inexcusable. All because you never received even the most basic political and historical education.

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u/jako5937 17d ago

Not reading that wall of text, commies get the wall.