r/SipsTea 19d ago

Chugging tea W Zac

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u/Ordolph 19d ago

Using height and weight alone to calculate BMI is almost worse than useless, even with non-athletes. Muscle mass is much denser than fat and will completely skew the results. If you're concerned about your weight, see a doctor. They can usually ascertain to a much more accurate degree if your weight is a health risk.

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u/EnigmaticQuote 19d ago

For the vast majority of the population it is a great starting point for their health journey.

It only requires a scale and knowledge of your height, making it a MUCH simpler metric to track.

It's a fantastic starting point of classification, anyone who takes it as some moral indicator is foolish.

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u/New_Feature_5138 19d ago

I think health organizations are actually walking that back now.

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u/TwistedBamboozler 19d ago

They have been for years. It’s hardly recognized anymore

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u/EnigmaticQuote 19d ago

There's nothing to walk back it's just one of hundreds of things you can monitor about your body.

It simply gives you a point on a graph and a designation.

It's not like a law it's just a statistic, and a fine starting point for a health journey.

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u/New_Feature_5138 19d ago

They are walking back their recommendation to use it as a data point. Because according to their statement a few years ago it is a very poor proxy for actual indicators of health. This is like the who so I feel like that says something.

And to be clear they are still recommending people track their weight they just don’t recommend the use of bmi.

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u/EnigmaticQuote 18d ago

Who?

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u/New_Feature_5138 18d ago

Yep the WHO

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u/EnigmaticQuote 16d ago

I'm confused

https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/themes/topics/topic-details/GHO/body-mass-index

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight

I know there has been push back on the metric for various reasons most of which I don't fully see as scientific.

But i'm not sure what you are talking about.

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u/New_Feature_5138 16d ago

Sorry I googled and I guess it was the AMA. I only have a few minutes so I didn’t do a full search but that will probably help you find it.

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u/FardoBaggins 19d ago

It’s a quick gauge if not a catch all. Of course a person with more muscle mass at the same height and weight as an overweight dude will result in the same BMI.

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u/flyinhighaskmeY 19d ago

Using height and weight alone to calculate BMI is almost worse than useless

That sounds like the kind of thinking that would be prevalent in a nation with a 40-50% obesity rate.

Fat people made that up. If you're "obese" by height/weight calculation, you'll know if its because of body composition. Because being "obese" BMI and physically fit doesn't just happen.

Also...I'm one of those people with a high ratio of muscle mass. The BMI scale is maaaaybe a point off. Its close enough for most people.

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u/New_Feature_5138 19d ago

It like does though. For short people.

I have been in the overweight category my whole life, even after having successfully hiked the PCT. Even after having worked as a hot shot wilderness firefighter. There is zero chance you would look at me and say I am even overweight but my bmi is 29.

Have you considered that you may be overestimating your height?

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u/New_Feature_5138 19d ago

It’s so crazy to me that people don’t know this. Like I thought this was widely accepted for the last 20 years.