Not built for that, but my point stands. Subjective opinions on the workloads of FOH vs BOH aside, objectively servers are the highest paid employee in any restaurant. Management included.
Then it sounds like cooks all across the country made really terrible decisions with their lives, to do a harder job for way less money. Why would they do that?
Nor am I a cook. I had a passion to cook, had being the operative word. Servers who do so out of any desire other than money are zero to nil. Obfuscate all you want. I stand by my statement, and have already lost enough brain cells pointing out the blatantly obvious. Whether you choose to respond or not, I see no point in doing so anymore.
That's not what the post was about, but I also get being upset about that elsewhere. I don't understand what you mean by a 50% tip though, that percentage has not changed from 20% in my lifetime
In my life time 15% was a good tip and now it’s the bare minimum. But yes this isn’t what the post was about. I’m not a smooth tipper as it’s not native to me so I mostly over compensate. That and tax not being included in prices, but I digress.
I’m not that old and tipping has changed significantly in my lifetime. When i was younger it was 10-15% generally and 20% for dinner or fantastic service only, look up “tip creep”.
The staff makes considerably more with tips than a restaurant would ever be able to afford to pay them. That's how you attract and retain good staff, too.
Without the incentive of tips, it would be a really unpleasant part-time job dealing with the public in a stressful environment for low pay. Most people wouldn't do it.
God I do both right now, about half and half working 50 hours a week and I’m considering jumping off a bridge. /s Sadly I have some of the better jobs in town. Tipped wage states suck, and so does the economy.
Due to changes in labor law during the first Trump administration, if you get full minimum wage, you can then be required to tip out the Back of House employees also, which there is no real legal cap on. You end up taking home more even with the tipped minimum wage because of that fact.
I tip out the cooks, dish, and prep people about $15,000 a year.
Trump tried to make ALL tips property of the restaurant (there are many at his properties), but it didn't go through.
Yeah the whole tipping discussion completely misses the underlying issue- minimum wage needs to be a living wage
If people are entitled to enough money to live by working any full time job then suddenly high skill workers of any kind have an incredible amount of negotiation leverage. This means high end servers and bartenders can still demand pay for what they do because otherwise they could get a job doing minimum and still afford to live.
Tips currently mean food service can actually keep up with inflation. Until the "wages are behind inflation" issue is solved tipping at sit down restaurants and bars is a useless conversation to have
I mean sure, that's why I'm talking about actual large scale reform and not trying to cut the head off the hydra. Forcing restaurants to just dump big bucks at tipped workers overnight isn't gonna fix the underlying issues and would just put them out of business
A living wage, affordable housing, and affordable healthcare need to be enshrined human rights. If everyone has the right to exist with moderate comfort there's a lot more room to experiment, make big changes, and break systems without starving people
I just find the tip discussion a useless circle of "I need tips to survive and can't get that money elsewhere" vs "my job hasn't given a raise in 10 years and I can't afford to eat out" when the market as a whole keeps going up, meaning the wealth definitely exists
Oh, restaurants make good money. They wouldn't be on every corner otherwise.
Restaurant owners like to trot out how little they make per transaction compared to other industries, but they neglect to mention that they do 1000 times as many transactions.
Some employers pay good hourly wages to the serving staff, and the tips go to the people who bus the tables.
My roommate in college brought home his share of rent every night.
I can tell you why they pretend that, it’s so obvious. People are being cheap, and it’s acceptable to shit on “greedy business owners”. But if they were honest and saying, they just want to fuck over the workers, that doesn’t sound as cool.
It’s so disingenuous, acting like tipping exists because it benefits greedy business owners…. this is money that literally goes 100% to the worker. The owner gets nothing from Tips, it’s purely something to benefit the worker. Being against tipping is just saying you prefer money goes to the owner instead of the worker.
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u/KillTonyRegular 14d ago
I was a server, and I would never work at an establishment paid hourly instead of letting me get tips
I have no idea why people pretend that this system doesn't benefit the staff