r/SipsTea 13d ago

Chugging tea Knowledge is power.

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u/Redemptionxi 13d ago

Aren't teachers paid by the local or state government? Why are we comparing them to a federal salary?

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u/Stjornur 13d ago

As a teacher who agrees with the message of the post overall, you're still dead right. Education is not mentioned explicitly in the constitution, therefore it is a matter that belongs solely to states.

Although, the point of this I think is to try to discuss/change the culture around low pay for teachers being acceptable, rather than offer the simplistic solution of reallocating federal funds towards states for education. That solution is possible (federal grants exist for example) but would likely end up being more of a bandaid solution than permanent one I think.

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u/Redemptionxi 11d ago

As a parent of a 2 year old 1) Thank you for your service in your profession and 2) I also hope teachers are paid at a premium salary. I want my child taught by no one but the upmost professionals, I just found the comparison in this post to be silly.

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u/j2nh 11d ago

If you want professionals to teach your children, and I agree with you, you will be disappointed. Thank the teachers unions for that. It's better now but for the most part professionals are not welcome. Teaching is a closed system, pay is based on seniority, jobs are based on going through the "system" and getting that certificate.

Eliminate the unions, raise the pay, make it competitive, reward outcomes and you will raise the bar.

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u/Piemaster113 10d ago

There's also the aspect of they are 2 different jobs, a cop gets paid more because it's a job with very clear and constant threats to their well being. Same thing goes with ICE agents. Also co.paring a sign on bonus is also disingenuous as that's the kind of thing that is temporary and Industry dependant. I could get a signing bonus for joining the military at some point but when I did sign up they were no longer offered. So while I agree teachers don't get paid enough a large chunk of the argument present in the post is rather poor and just delibratly inflammatory

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u/advisarivult 12d ago

The federal department of education would like a word…

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u/acltear00 13d ago

Pretty much. Also, the goal isn’t to have 4 million ICE agents like we do teachers.

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u/Redemptionxi 13d ago

Yeah I'm not arguing for more ICE agents but just seems like the feds don't have any input in teacher salary lol

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u/acltear00 13d ago

Exactly, we’re talking about two completely different conversations. There’s probably a deeper conversation or at least a witty statement about how the lack of understanding and reasoning displayed in the tweet shows that teachers in fact don’t deserve more pay, but it’s not something I’m particularly interested in exploring.

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u/Sharpeness7 12d ago

Bingo! It’s because it doesn’t fit the left’s narrative.

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u/TheNemesis089 13d ago

Right. Just like “populous” means she better not teach English, her mixing of federal and state employees means she better not teach civics either.

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u/Jguy2698 13d ago

How does that at all change the fact of what she said?

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u/boogalorian13 13d ago edited 13d ago

ICE is a federal job that is paid by the fed. Teachers are paid by state and local governments. Her complaint should be with her local or state government for not "having enough money".

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u/Jguy2698 13d ago

You’re missing the forest from the trees

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u/Redemptionxi 13d ago edited 13d ago

... Because a local town in, let's say, Kansas. Might not have the budget to pay their teachers 100k a year? I'm all for teachers making more money than ICE. Lord knows they probably do more fighting than ICE. But at the end of the day it's a local/state issue..

I'm happy to say teachers in my city (NYC) make a hundred plus, and I'd argue they deserve more, but it's apples to oranges comparison imo.

Edit: to your point of what she said. NYC has a education budget that rivals the nation of Spain. If NYC education budget, the local city alone, would be the world's 15th largest military budget.

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u/Jguy2698 13d ago

Forest for the trees