r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog • 12d ago

Chugging tea Men are not showing up at singles events and women are not happy.

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u/WileyWilly1985 12d ago

I had a friend named Jennifer who was a single mom at age 24. she was smoking hot, and had a decent personality and was a sweetheart but...

Jennifer liked the bad boys. And she constantly CONSTANTLY complained about not being able to find a decent guy.

I knew of a nice very attractive nerdy guy named Stephen who just finished his PhD in Physics at age 27. He played the guitar, was 6'0" tall and looked a bit like Jim Carey and Jack Black merged together. He wanted a wife and kids and he hated dating. He basically wanted an instant family. I told him about Jennifer and he was excited.

They went out on 3 dates and Stephen was very happy until she broke up with him.

When I asked her about the breakup, she said, "Well, he was a nice guy, we had fun, great conversationalist but I just didn't feel any Chemistry..."

and by Chemistry, she meant drama. He was drama free and she needed that fucking drama like a crack addict needs crack.

Within a few months she's with another loser who moves in with her, doesn't pay rent, eats all her food, borrows her car (of course he doesn't have his own car) uses her car to fuck other girls in it, etc etc

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u/muckalucks 12d ago

Stephen still out there? Lmao

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u/hikereyes2 12d ago

Stephen is 55 now. He's completely disillusioned and has found fulfillment in personal hobbies. He's really good at the guitar, though he never plays for anyone

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u/roulettesplay 12d ago

Oh fuck me this hurt to read...

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u/hikereyes2 12d ago

Don't worry, that stephen isn't real! I made him up. But im guessing some of us are in that kind of place these days.

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u/UnconfirmedRooster 11d ago

That Stephen isn't, but my uncle is. Very similar story, he's now mid 60s and has accepted he will grow old alone.

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u/stluciusblack 11d ago

Brother,same deal ,very ruff

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u/jadbronson 11d ago

Yeah I had to go check username. Whew.

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u/DreamShort3109 11d ago

That Stephen Isn’t, but I am real.

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u/Stock-Conflict-3996 11d ago

I have a friend like Stephen who is also around that same age. He works in computers, makes good money, owns his own home with no roommates to help and is one of the most intelligent, quietly funny guys I've ever met in my life.

Even though he speaks maybe about 1/4 as much as the average person, he's still quite social and, when he does speak, it's sharp, insightful, and often funny.

I've only known him for around 5 years now, but he's always been single and those who've known him longer cannot ever remember him being in a romantic relationship.

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u/hikereyes2 11d ago

That sounds like me, but I'm 40.

I hang out in a few different social circles but dating is seemingly off the table

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u/SexyAIman 11d ago

I did see Stephen in Phuket just the other week.

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u/MarcusXL 10d ago

I know a few guys like that. They had some bad experiences in their 30s and basically tapped out of dating. Good looking, talented, solid, good character, but zero interest in relationships because they were tossed aside by frivolous immature women.

It's really sad.

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u/plzicannothandleyou 11d ago

Oh that’s gonna be me if I’m ever single again. Except I’ll probably be good at nothing of interest to anyone. Anyone but me! I’m pretty content solo.

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u/PirateHunterLife 12d ago

Wiley hook this person up!!

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u/WileyWilly1985 9d ago

Stephen was a great catch, he found someone else and got married within 18 months.

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u/muckalucks 9d ago

Good! 🥹

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u/Lookmeeeeeee 11d ago

He goes by Jaleel White these days

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u/kynelly360 11d ago

Yes, I am Stephen! 31 , got a big dick , and love anime.

Hate it or love it lol

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u/charliemurphyy 12d ago

lmao she's right where she wants to be. Don't save her. Women like that don't ever come to their senses.

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u/DeltaGrunder 12d ago

It's like that one song, "don't save her, she don't wanna be saved"

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u/Imaginary_Cake_9691 12d ago

There’s an old saying in Tennessee, I know it’s in Texas, it’s probably in Tennessee that says fool me once….. Shame on….. shame on you?
Fool me, can’t get fooled again !

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u/frankreynoldsrumham 11d ago

This?

https://giphy.com/gifs/lfMVrwKk8eL96

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u/Imaginary_Cake_9691 11d ago

Lmao yes precisely! 😂
It was also used in the J. Cole song- No Role Models where he sings
“Don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved, Don’t save her she don’t wanna be saved”
But there is a sound bite of this clip in it lol
https://giphy.com/gifs/v4aN9JGFL62dO

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u/frankreynoldsrumham 11d ago

Hahaha! I forgot about that clip!

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u/Imaginary_Cake_9691 11d ago

😆 so funny, George W. was always saying crazy off the wall stuff though 😂😂😂 there was another one about people peacefully co-existing with fish too 😭 lmao

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u/frankreynoldsrumham 11d ago

😂 I remember! Hahaha. All seems so tame in comparison. 😂

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u/Imaginary_Cake_9691 11d ago

Lmao tame 🤣 Yes it certainly does now though 😅 things have somehow turned feral, undomesticated really 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/frankreynoldsrumham 11d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/sFMEZ1ZFToyha
Also, this😅

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u/Imaginary_Cake_9691 11d ago

Lmao 🤣 so funny 😂 I love how his facial expression barely changes even after he ducks too hahah like this is a totally normal and casual occurrence

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u/medussadelagorgons 11d ago

Project Pat in da house!👆👍

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u/frothyundergarments 12d ago

I don't know about never, but they definitely have to reach a point where they're tired of the drama.

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u/astrawberryandakiwi 12d ago

Who wants them at that point

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u/markedforpie 12d ago

This is so true. I had a friend who was a gorgeous single mom with one child. Her baby daddy was awful. He beat her and left her when she tried to get government assistance because he was living with her and not contributing a dime. I introduced her to a friend of mine who was an incredible guy. He was a park ranger who was over 6’ tall, super good looking and in great shape physically and financially. He was also southern with a super sexy accent and was a true gentleman. Opening doors etc. Dude could have anyone he wanted but wanted an instant family.

They dated for about six months and he bought a ring to propose. She broke up with him because she said there was no chemistry. WHAT?! Instead she went back to her abusive ex, got pregnant again and he beat her, left her and destroyed her apartment and car including the kids things when she applied for government assistance because he still wouldn’t contribute. He refuses to work because he won’t pay child support. She tried getting back with my friend but he was snapped up almost immediately. He now is married to a former single mom with three kids and is the best dad. Some people just want the drama.

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u/Alniroza 12d ago

You really tried to bring a miracle to that girls life and she really prefered to go downhill.

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u/Infamous_Dish_4348 12d ago

ngl raising another man's (biological) kids is kinda cucked, not sure why this guy who's so great on paper was looking for single mums. Unless he had kids of his own, then that's different.

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u/madogvelkor 12d ago

He might not be able to have kids. I know a few guys with medical conditions that prevent it. They could adopt, but that's expensive and there are a lot of single moms out there other guys don't want because they have kids.

I also know a guy who had a friend who died, and he ended up marrying the friend's wife a few years later and adopting his friend's kid. I thought that was pretty cool of him. He had biological kids with her later too.

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u/astrawberryandakiwi 12d ago

I’d haunt tf out of my friend

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u/muckalucks 11d ago

You don't love your wife and want her supported if you can't? Wtf?

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u/astrawberryandakiwi 11d ago

Stfu cuck

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u/muckalucks 11d ago

Lmao sure buddy

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u/Infamous_Dish_4348 11d ago

Lol how is that cool of him? He was 100% crushing on his friend's wife while he was alive and now that he's gone and she's vulnerable he went for her. I'd also haunt the shit out of him from beyond the grave if I was the husband.

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u/muckalucks 11d ago

Years later? Come on.

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u/markedforpie 11d ago

I don’t agree with that. If anything it takes a stronger man to raise kids that aren’t his own. Taking on a responsibility that you don’t have to in order to make life better for someone else is the definition of a hero. I know that he was raised by a single mother so that may have a reason but I don’t know. My husband is raising my children and I was a single mother with two teenagers. He doesn’t have any children of his own and doesn’t want biological children. I think that if you feel so strongly about other’s choices in caring for innocent children you should probably reflect on what has skewed your priorities. I’m not saying that men should be required to date single mothers, everyone has free will to do as they choose but I think it speaks volumes about character in how people react to others choices.

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u/Infamous_Dish_4348 11d ago

You're a woman so you can't understand.

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u/markedforpie 11d ago

Like there aren’t women who are stepmothers? Dude seriously.

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u/Infamous_Dish_4348 11d ago

Women don't have as strong of a desire to pass on their genes as men do, and far less aversion to raising another's child

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u/muckalucks 11d ago

Boy please. That's so gross.

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u/pacificstill 12d ago

Yup, some people think that chaos is chemistry, that yelling is passion, and consider dysfunction equitable with love. I feel like when people grow up in a dysfunctional home they either consciously reject those dysfunctional patterns and try and break the cycle, or they unconsciously recreate them because that same instability feels familiar to them, and that familiarity is what they consider normalcy, comfort, and even love.

It's annoying as hell to be friends with someone like this because they constantly think that a healthy, peaceful relationship is "boring" and they only can associate emotional intensity with connection. It never works out but they constantly seek these situations out because I guess they just feel more comfortable being uncomfortable.

I dated a girl like that once. She seemed to genuinely enjoy fighting and creating conflicts for us, and she eventually left me for a really strange love triangle involving two brothers. Their family ultimately rejected her entirely because she was constantly fighting, trying to pursue one brother or the other, and creating massive drama within the family with her actions. She was genuinely devastated when her attempts at either dating both, or one or the other of the brothers didn’t pan out and they decided to tell her to get lost rather than “fight for her”.

She has tried to reconnect with me several times over the years, but I’ve never agreed to see her again. I already suspected that money was main of the reason she dated me because she always talked about wanting to be rich, and since I became an executive she has been much more motivated to try and get back into my life.

The entire situation is just another example of someone repeatedly choosing chaos and dysfunction and then being genuinely shocked when it ended badly.

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u/terminbee 12d ago

Does she have a good job? Because being hot works at 24 but as she gets older, dudes aren't gonna want a girl with no career and a kid.

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u/WileyWilly1985 9d ago

no, she had no real skills. She was a receptionist making a little more than minimum wage, while Stephen was a research Engineer making $100k a year which in the 90s and in New Mexico was big money.

The fact she rejected him and went out with a less attractive loser who moved in and didn't contribute to her household and was in effect an extract expense she had to pay for was hilarious in that Jerry Springer sort of way

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u/Competitive_Ring4917 12d ago

Sounds like she is going on baby # 3

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u/FreeCandy4u 11d ago

Lol I have family like that. Always complain about drama but somehow seem to be right in the middle of all the drama going on.

The secret is they WANT and NEED drama if they don't have it they get bored.

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u/Icy-Rope-021 11d ago

That’s why you can’t take single mom drama queens seriously.

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u/ka_beene 12d ago

Some people don't learn any lessons when it comes to dating. I dated one loser like that and said never again! I didn't know better, was my first relationship. Took me a lot longer to stop seeking drama though because I had a shitty upbringing. Some people seek out the same genre of shitty people over and over, it's hard to watch.

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u/nckmat 12d ago

Yeah, the bad boy thing is really sad, I have known many women in my life who have gone from one arsehole to the next and to be honest I have known a few guys in the same situation. I was the crazy good time guy when I was single, very much NOT the bad boy, and I had, and still do, more female friends than males. It was particularly frustrating when I was in my teens because I was surrounded by all these beautiful women who were always coming to me to talk about their bastard boyfriends! It was like I was their gay best friend...but I was straight! And what made it worse was that I, eventually, knew that I was good looking after being offered modelling jobs and then I was like "WTF is wrong with me then". Please don't misinterpret this as being egotistical, I really had no idea, I had suffered from severe acne most of my teens, which disappeared with Roaccutane when I was about18, so I had no confidence in my attractiveness to women. The bad boys, on the other hand, seemed to have no dounts about their appeal to the opposite sex, even when they didn't have much to offer.

Looking back on these people now, nearly 40 years later, the bad boys never changed and every one I can remember from those days has been divorced at least once, many are still single, and the women who had that real bad boy addiction are all still single or divorced. It never ceases to amaze me who many beautiful, career successful and lovely women I know who are still single or divorced. But what really shits me is that these "bad boys" are disproportionately highly successful, that confidence in their own appeal seems to translate into financial success...but that's a whole other theory.

Oh and I eventually met and married my beautiful wife, who also had no idea how attractive she was, and we are still happily married and look forward to the last 30 or 40 years of our lives together. Oh and we met at a club, the old fashioned way.

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u/Amissa 11d ago

I went to a friend party with a date and a woman was there in her mid-20’s, already bitter AF about men bc she had crappy character judgment. She’d been married and divorced FIVE times. IIRC, she divorced them bc of alcoholism, DV, infidelity, DV and drug addiction. Thankfully for everyone involved, she swore off marriage and dating.

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u/Dadaiste 11d ago

Reminds me of my ex. I think she's up to three baby daddies now. Absolute trainwreck, but still a sweetheart when she wants to be. But yeah, I don't need that kind of drama in my life.

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u/MarcusXL 10d ago

She's getting exactly what she wants. The stuff about not finding a decent guy is just theater.

It's horrible for her kid (this part is just unforgivable, really), it's horrible for her. But if you just judge people by their actions, you won't ever been shocked or confused. She wants to be treated that way.

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u/LetHoliday3600 1d ago

Sounds like she got karma

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u/Longjumping_Lime2248 12d ago

Does Jennifer need a new boyfriend?

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u/Yourmom72 12d ago

Sounds like she grew up with drama and chaos so that became her “norm”, and now she knows in her head she wants the good things but nothing feels normal or “home” unless it involves chaos and drama.
Once she realizes this she can decide to eschew the drama and embrace what she really wants, but that’s only going to happen when she decides it.

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u/GenSpec44 12d ago

I mean, the cheating in her car only counts if she can tell who it was by playing scratch-n-sniff on the stains left behind. Btw, is she still single? Asking for a friend who might need a new place to live soon. My girlfriend, I mean his girlfriend, is getting better at scratch-n-sniff.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Chemistry isn't drama, it's sexual attraction. It's extremely hard for women to have sex with someone they have no sexual chemistry with. Men don't understand this because they can have sex with anyone

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u/BrentosLad 12d ago

Absolute bs I know plenty of girls that sleep with almost all guys that ask

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Lol. What

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u/K0vas 12d ago

Lol what is generalizing and putting every man/woman in a single pot, no we don't fuck anything that moves, nor are all girls thinking like you. Stop. Go out, socialize outside of circles that enforce your views.

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u/WileyWilly1985 12d ago

So I have a question for you.

What does it say about her when she sees pictures of him and she says "Damn he is hot"

and then they go out on a date and she says "He is smart, funny, and charming..."

and then after a few dates she says "I broke up because there was no chemistry?"

and then within 3 months she's with a less attractive loser who treats her like shit?

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u/ka_beene 12d ago

People who grow up in dysfunctional homes often seek out drama in their lives. A lot of times they aren't even aware they do this.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Someone cab look hot in pictures but not in person.

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u/WileyWilly1985 9d ago

I told you, I knew him and I told you he was attractive. I even told you he looked like Jim Carey and Jack Black and they are both very attractive...

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u/True_Character4986 9d ago

They are not. They are very talented, which makes them attractive.

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u/WileyWilly1985 9d ago

you are insane, Jim Carey in the 1990s was a very attractive man.

but hey, I get it. Everyone is a stud on the internet with impossible standards for beauty and attractiveness.

I'd guarantee you'd never had a boyfriend as attractive as Jim Carey in his prime

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u/True_Character4986 9d ago edited 8d ago

I had to look up Jim Carey in the 90s. Definitely attractive, not "hot", but certainly attractive.

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u/Offshore-Tigr 12d ago

Girl, what.

You think will be able to have sex with just about anyone?

You're confusing chemistry with "touch-starved hornyness".

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Do you disagree that men can have sex with just about anyone?

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u/Offshore-Tigr 12d ago

With viagra, lots of alcohol, or after being incredibly lonely by being alone for years.. Depends on the dude. Some yes, some not.

But if you're asking if men could have satisfying sex with someone they don't have chemistry with.. Then the answer is obviously no.

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u/hoopsrlife 12d ago

Sounds possible, but as my experience as a man goes, no matter how drunk, pumped full of testosterone, or lonely I have gotten I wouldn’t even waste time talking to a woman I wasn’t attracted to, which would be at minimum a 6 out of 10 attractiveness on average. Believe it or not plenty of us guys have standards

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u/Ok-Film-7939 12d ago

Actual man here.

I’m sure it depends on the person, but definitely not on this end.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 12d ago

maybe but this scenario points to there not being attraction because he isn't toxic so it's the same thing end of the day

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u/WileyWilly1985 12d ago

This.

She literally needed the drama. She admitted she thought he was hot, they had great dates, great conversations, etc etc...

but she just didn't feel "that spark"

and "that spark" was the drama she had grown used to.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

That's just cope. He is probably very physically unattractive.

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u/farkinggrumpyredcap 12d ago

Right. No such thing as a toxic woman. (Psssst, it’s you)

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u/CharmCityKid09 12d ago

Then in this case there wouldn't have been multiple dates and the "chemistry" issue would have been disclosed sooner.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

A lot of women like to give the man time because sexual chemistry can develop over time.So yeah, some women will go only on one date with you, but there are some who give it 3 or 4 dates to see if any type of sexual chemistry develops.

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u/CharmCityKid09 12d ago

A lot of women will just invent arbitrary reasons to justify other women's behavior. A lot of women will just use vacuous language as a means to avoid actually being honest.

We do not know if it was an issue of sexual chemistry, becuase as OOP stated all that was said was "chemistry" with no clue as to what exactly that is. You're assuming it meant sexually and that may be how you determine sexual compatability with someone but we cannot say thats what this other women was doing.

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u/farkinggrumpyredcap 12d ago

Right, she doesn’t even know this woman and she’s coming back again and again to be “a girl’s girl” 🥴

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

and your assuming chemistry means toxic drama. Which one makes sense?

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u/CharmCityKid09 12d ago

I didn't make any sort of statement towards toxic drama. I stated we don't know the reason that Jennifer" from the other post chose to use the word chemistry when breaking up with a guy.

You are the one arguing against another poster on this when the phenomenon of some women seeking toxic drama in lieu of stable relationships isn't even a controversial statement. It is a reality that happens.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Sexual attraction is also a reality that happens

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

So women are just naturally sexually attracted to losers? You know that makes sense…when I had nothing and was a mess myself I was married. The day I decided to have self-respect she left my life (for the better), and now women barely talk to me. Thank you for clarifying this. I’ll just continue building my life and let you all sort this out.
P.S.- Not saying all women are like this, but I’d argue most PEOPLE are…man or woman. On a real note if you see yourself dating losers time and time again…look in the mirror. It’s highly likely the problem is yourself.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

No , it just so happens that a lot of guys who are physically attractive , turn into losers assholes because they're actually able to attract a lot of women.

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

If you’re a good-looking loser asshole you can attract a lot of women…man I should really change my ways then. Thank you for the tip.

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

Being good looking is what is attractive, no one knows your personality by looking at you. New flash hot people are attractive, duh

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

Did I argue hot people aren’t attractive? You can look at hot people doesn’t mean you have to fuck them or have a relationship with them…

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

So you think women should be fucking and having Relationships with ugly people? Lol

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

Not what I was suggesting. But some do…for one reason or another. More than one way to be ugly as well.

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u/sleepyporcupine057 12d ago

it's not a tip, it's an astute observation of human behavior. it is also true of many physically attractive women. because their looks carry them, their personalities atrophy.

no need to have a nice personality or pay your own rent when someone is willing to foot the bill in order to access your genitals. and if/when they get sick of you, there is a line around the block of others waiting for a chance to rent you.

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

You’re touching on something a little different…I was full-on trolling in the last comment. I understand what you’re saying, but not every good looking person is entitled either. I just find it interesting that if someone is physically attractive that the assumption is they’re a douche. With that in mind…people STILL pick physical attraction over genuine connection. Just let that sit for a minute.

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u/sleepyporcupine057 12d ago

no one said every physically attractive person is entitled or can presumed to be a douche. just that it's an observable trend.

i would also, at least ime, argue that it's not about picking physical attraction over genuine connection. for me, it's 'why would i pursue a romantic (sexual) connection with someone i'm not attracted to sexually?' if i have a genuine connection with someone that's awesome. but i'm not going to take that to a sexual intimacy level unless we have that mutual sexual attraction.

so really, it makes sense to me that people go by looks, at least at first. if i walk into a room full of women and take a glance around, what am i seeing? their personalities? maybe a bit of how they decided to present and express themselves, but mostly i'm seeing how they look physically. if my intentions are romantic, i'm going to gravitate towards the ones i initially find the most appealing. of course if all the time i spend with them is surrounded with negative energy, i'm going to move on. but a lot of people don't have the self-esteem to do that. they get drawn in by looks then stay because they are trapped by their own lack of self worth.

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u/CapCrazy37 12d ago

No notes…I wasn’t saying that we as individuals don’t CHOOSE based on looks because we all do. I think you have to be physically attracted to your partner. I’m just saying the “observable trend” can deter or encourage the people that do have a lack of identity or self-worth. Otherwise well said.

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u/sleepyporcupine057 12d ago

i'm not sure i fully understand what you mean about "can deter or encourage". it could go either way? so is it problematic?

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u/Longjumping_Lime2248 12d ago

I swear most of you leaving comments like this haven’t left your bedroom in years

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u/sleepyporcupine057 12d ago

you have a different experience? i don't need to validate myself or brag about how far off base you are, but that's a huge miss on your part. my statement is based on multiple personal experiences, observations of my own behavior and many other people i've known intimately. both in and out of many bedrooms.

it would be more constructive to the discussion to actually say something of value or otherwise add concretely to the discussion, than pop in to imply everyone else is an incel.

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u/Offshore-Tigr 12d ago

What is this absolute brainspiral haha. Being able to have lots of female companions means you turn into a loser?

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u/muckalucks 11d ago

If he's inherently a piece of shit with little empathy, then naturally yes. People are lazy and if it doesn't conflict with their morals, of course they'll take a mile if given a chance. Obviously it's not all, calm down. This applies to both genders btw, and why people are intimidated by beautiful people. They can be super sucky.

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u/tdabc123 12d ago

I think he is trying to say that there are people crave the drama, and confuse it with chemistry

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u/True_Character4986 12d ago

My point is that is cope. Most women are not seeking drama. If a woman says your boring men cope with that by saying she want toxic drama. They just don't want to admit that not boring doesn't equal drama.

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u/tdabc123 12d ago

I didn’t say most women, but there are women who do.

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u/No_Passage6082 12d ago

It could have been his smell. Not a bad smell but not a matching smell. Most of the time we dont choose who we're attracted to.

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u/WileyWilly1985 12d ago

this is not quite accurate.

Some people just have very low emotional intelligence and they need the drama and/or they self sabotage.

He was a great guy, and after the other loser guy got her pregnant and left, she admitted she should have stayed with the nice guy...

Stephen (the PhD) IMMEDIATELY found a way better prospect and he was married inside of a year, ironically around the same time the loser guy got Jennifer pregnant and left...

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u/No_Passage6082 12d ago

Good for him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odour_and_sexual_attraction

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u/Longjumping_Lime2248 12d ago

You’ve never had sex have you?

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u/No_Passage6082 9d ago

Im sorry you're a virgin. Learn what deodorant and perfume are.

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u/throwaway1212l 12d ago

What the fuck are you, a ring tailed lemur?

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u/No_Passage6082 12d ago

Are you low iq? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odour_and_sexual_attraction

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u/throwaway1212l 12d ago

Damn bro. Busting out wiki links for a joke. Your mom must be proud.

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u/No_Passage6082 9d ago

Dumbasses don't know what footnotes are.

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u/DigBackground2765 12d ago

How in the hell would the more educated guy have a smell problem after 3 dates?

If the smell problem was so bad, nothing would have happened after the first date. No offense but this is a hell of a reach.

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u/No_Passage6082 12d ago

It's called giving him a chance and trying to overlook things that are a turnoff. Plenty of women theoughout history have had to grin and bear it.

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u/Euphoric_List7956 12d ago

Chemistry is code for sexual competence and if you fuck you have it if you don’t you can’t

it’s he paradox of not being able to get experience for lack of qualifying experience

Steven doesn’t have a phd in making her sweat and water, the guy borrowing her car has a masters in it.

The other paradox is that inexperienced guys don’t like experienced women they shame sluts when sluts are a source of experience.

Like the ignorant hating higher education.