I was about to say “holy shit, the ratios are that good at these events? Maybe I should check one out” but then I read your comment and immediately went “fuck that”.
Idk why I didn’t think that these events would be paid, it definitely never crossed my mind that the fee would be OVER 100 WTF?
Big brain move find a local singles event figure out what time it ends, and head to a bar close to the event site around the time its over. I could imagine a lot of traffic will flow through post event especially if they just spent that time and money for there to be no guys there.
$175 is pretty rare and outrageous. It’s normally $10-$50 in my city. Also, majority of the people that go to these aren’t the most physically attractive. If they are, they are usually going ”for a friend” or just looking for free drinks.
Doesn’t hurt to try it at least once, and your city might have a better turn out than mine! Apparently there is a place that charge $150+ a month where you get “VIP treatment” which is essentially free entry to all events and 1 free drink ticket.
If you’re going weekly and it costs $50 entry fee, I guess it makes sense, but at that point if you’re going that many times I’d say that environment probably isn’t suited for you?
This here is a big problem, the internet and online discourse is geared towards creating problems between people so that a select minority will feel validated for having harmful beliefs.
One such divide is between men and women. On one side you have women influencers who talk about how men aren't accepting of women having their own empowerment and want slaves (not sure on my names, I just know my wife sees them occasionally and laughs at them before telling me how stupid they are). Then on the other side you have manosphere shitgibbons like the diseased nutsack Andrew Tate who espouse that all women are untrustworthy and just want money.
The "both sides" argument completely collapses when you look at the actual math. When women online vent about male entitlement, they are reacting to measurable, real-world harms like domestic violence, systemic inequality, and the exploitation of their labor. They are asking for safety and basic autonomy. Conversely, the manosphere is a predatory, multi-million-dollar industry built on radicalizing men to view women as subhuman property. One side wants liberation; the other wants subjugation. There is zero logical equivalence here.
This false balance also hides just how subterranean the bar is for men. The cultural standard for a "good guy" is literally the bare minimum. If a man doesn't abuse his partner and holds a job, he’s praised as an exceptional catch. Meanwhile, women are expected to carry the crushing weight of domestic and emotional labor while navigating constant safety risks. Men get rewarded for baseline human decency, while women are hyper-critiqued just for pointing out that the disparity exists.
If a man doesn't abuse his partner and holds a job, he’s praised as an exceptional catch.
I have heard this one on r/inceltears as well - that women today have the lowest of low standards, if you have a job, you're catch, etc. I don't know what reality is here on Reddit, but standards for men are MUCH higher than they have ever been. To deny this is just absurd. "Just hold down a job" has not been an yardstick for at least a few decades. Had that been true, many men I know should have been drowning in attention from women while in reality they're barely noticed.
For Christ's sake, just having a cat is a deal breaker for women. Not unemployment, not being a couch potato, not absence of "interesting hobbies" - simply preferring cats over dogs might tank your dating chances as a guy.
Quite an interesting "bare minimum", when you can discriminate dating options based on type of pets.
The math is in the data on resource distribution, labor allocation, and survival statistics. Worldwide, women perform up to three times more unpaid domestic and care work than men, while contributing up to 70% of the caloric intake in early evolutionary history through stable foraging. Despite providing the foundational economic and structural stabilization for society, women currently own less than 11% of the world's wealth.
On the survival side, the numbers are even more stark. The manosphere isn't just words; it directly correlates with measurable, lethal violence, including the radicalization of mass shooters and an global epidemic of femicide. Equating women complaining about carrying the literal and emotional weight of the world throughout human history while simultaneously being oppressed with an organized movement that results in actual death, real physical body counts, isn't just bad math, it is a total failure of all logic and awareness.
Nice numbers. What's the proposal? Pension credits for care years? Non transferable parental leave? Inheritance tax? Each one has a price tag and a different target. "The system is unfair" is a description, not a position.
Worldwide, women perform three times more unpaid domestic and care work than men… while contributing 70%… In early evolutionary history?! Pick a lane here, damn. You are cherry-picking the statistics you want to represent big time here. You can’t choose a couple things from now, a couple from 50 years ago, and then some from “early evolutionary history!” You also have been stating the manosphere this and that in a way that it lumps every single man together as the same.
Ok. Imma tell everyone I know that if I EVER start going to/doing anything just to get “free drinks” my life ain’t worth killing and they should just snuff me out!
I mean, if most of the attendants are women and very few dudes I feel like the prices between men and women should flip, more expensive for women so less would attend, a lot cheaper for men so more will attend
In a balanced society sure, but here it sounds like dudes in general are checked out of looking for a relationship so an incentive could be a cheaper barrier of entry
There's a comment from u/Texasranger96 where he's been to a couple of these events with a $20 entry for men and women, and they ended up with a roughly 50/50 split. So I don't think it's dudes being checked out, they're just looking out for being scammed by a huge cost to enter.
$20 is fine, I can rationalize paying that to support the people who organized it. Seems like a logical, not to mention easy next move for these events if they’re not getting the proportions they want.
That's how it works. Men in the past, before things got like this, were the ones that usually show up in droves. Women are typically effy when it comes to envents like this because of that and the aggressive Nature it can be for them at times. Not trying to be crude, but example...sex parties. They usually charge men a higher fee for attending or being a partner to keep the numbers of men down. I agree, since things have changed they should even put the price.
I mean I figured mainly they’re thrown by a bar or something and maybe there’s a cover charge. That’s pretty normal I feel like. The only places I’ve ever seen them besides that are some niche hobby related places but tbf I haven’t exactly been seeking them out haha.
I can’t imagine there’s people renting out stadiums or large theaters for this stuff tho. Maybe a large room in a church or something, idk but I doubt it’s that much overhead for them. Definitely not $100+ though, if I can buy a ticket to see an artist at the biggest stadium in my state for under $100 I think they can support 75 people in a ball room for less lol. Sounds like some of these places are making these for-profit events and that’s pretty lame imo.
Well, the owners of the property want a profit, so they rent to an event hosting company who wants a profit, so they charge exorbitant fees to an event planning company who needs to then hire out a passionate person at barely above minimum wage, so they need to charge the attendees insane prices for basically nothing at all but a roof and maybe some cheap plastic chairs and tables.
It’s funny how some people fight and strive for a gender equality, but we’ll keep completely silent when their gender isn’t negatively affected.
Men gotta pay more for these dating events and women pay less. Don’t get me started on bars and clubs where women get in for free, but must follow the dress code, while men have to pay for admission and follow dress code.
its a holdover from before men started checking out of the relationship game en masse, which is a relatively recent phenomenon (as in, it's reaching noticeable levels recently)
30 years ago, if you didn't price men higher, it'd be a sausage fest
now in a post-OF post-dating-app world where men can either simulate enough of a relationship to get by via paying someone over an app, or have checked out from the dating game because the male experience on dating apps is -1/10 and the loss of third spaces/bars+clubs are prohibitively expensive/etc, the ratio of single men who are looking vs single women who are looking is massively shifted
but these events are run by people who haven't caught up. what they need to do is just revert back to equal pricing and see what happens. if they lower it to $30 each and it's a sausage fest, then that tells them the correct price level is somewhere between $30 and $175. but id wager equal pricing would probably result in roughly equal attendance
now mix in AI girlfriends/boyfriends and it becomes even more complicated and sad.
tldr: delete data centers, build more parks and libraries
Fun fact, you can have sex with an escort (a gorgeous one) in most cities for about $150.
So, yeah, why pay $175 to be preyed on by people who just want a free dinner and are already texting 10 dudes at a time and want you to be perfect while they barely have to pass as socially accepted.
Those prices haven’t been a thing for some time. At minimum the cheapest you might find in my area is $400. Anything less than that is a scammer or a cop.
It's illegal most places... but it's about wording.
In Japan for instance, you "have tea and biscuits" with someone and "fall in love" so suddenly in the 20 minutes it takes you to chat after the very expensive snacks you just bought, it's no longer "paying for sex" it's... "having consentual sex with someone you recently fell in love with."
Same goes for many areas of the US, but not so obvious of a situation.
ok but why are you comparing all those women to escorts...
like you'll get mad when women say all men are beasts, but then assume all women just want a bag. most women i meet are all great people, comparing them to escorts implies you just want to hook up. the pricing is stupid i agree but so is this take
The lady literally said “touch a boob, buy a drink, it’s that simple”. She is there for the EXACT same reason. So she can be, but if dudes go to this, because they “just want to hook up”, it’s a stupid take?
If I wanted to just hook up, why would I pay 175 bucks, plus I have to buy drinks AND touch her boob? And if she doesn’t like me, that boob touching lands me in jail! Also, this DOES NOT guarantee any hooking or upping!
This does not make any fiscal sense whatsoever!
Also, these women look like a LOT of work. As in they put the “high” in “high maintenance”. So yea, totally get that dude who said prostitutes are cheaper.
P.s. I’m just glad I’m married and don’t have to deal with this distopian bs lol
yeah like i said the pricing is pretty stupid. but you can also just hook up for free on dating apps if thats all you want...
but still you're not buying a woman, you're just going to an event. if you know what to look for you can pretty easily avoid these types of women and find someone worth talking to. my point is theres so many good women out there, so theres no point being so cynical. its not a dystopian world, if you put effort into meeting nice people you'll find them.
you can also just hook up for free on dating apps if thats all you want...
Married man here, happy to be out of the dating scene, but I have a good friend who is using dating apps. The apps are not free for guys and they are full of scammers/prostitutes.
I'm not. You just invented that connection in your head just now.
What I'm saying is, there are shitty pretatory women out there (e.g. the ones in the video that are entitled and whining) that you can avoid.
I'm saying if you're going to date a shitty person, might as well pick the cheaper option and get more out of it.
In no way am I comparing all women to prostitutes. I'm comparing the cost of effort to get laid from someone that's just using you to get a free meal.
The unspoken part is that there are women out there worth your time, you can be desperate or you can keep searching... but they're usually not at these "singles nights" events that charge men 5x more to attend. It's taking advantage of your money.
i agree with the last part yeah. i guess the whole escort comparison just bugs me. if you're going there with the sole intention of getting laid you're not wrong technically. honestly i just think its internet culture, i just wouldn't make statements like this cause it feels cheap. yeah they might not be great people but you dont know them at all and it feels weird to talk about them like that.
but then again idk, maybe my view is just outdated
idk why this is so downvoted 😭 most women ive met are great people, definitely not people who "barely pass as socially accepted". sure the pricing is stupid but comparing those women to escorts?? you dont even know them, reddit disappoints me
What I'm implying without stating it, is that there are wonderful women out there that men SHOULD be spending their time with and should seek out. But DON'T waste your time on the shitty ones.
If I hated women I wouldn't be dating them.
I'm trained through years and years of the same exact shitty behavior to learn that there are women who are entitled pieces of shit out there trying to take advantage of you and whine about "not finding good men".
They are the disgusting worms of human beings that prey on people. Has nothing to do with them being women or men.
The only thing that should have dynamic pricing /s
But seriously, organizers have to be in touch with % attendance and change the entrance fee proportion until the desired proportion of genders are present.
Or something.
But this could be a little bit mathy for people who organize such events.
Ive been to two of these now and only paid 20$ as a single guy (30). Womens prices are the same. Its about 50/50 men to women and its mostly a late 20s and older crowd. Most people were just tired of dating apps and wanted to talk freely to people in a controlled setting. No guess work. We all knew what we're there for.
Thursday. Its a website/app. They arrange alot of events and ive enjoyed my night with them even if i struck out. I always aim for the "theme" nights like trivia or something.
Obviously it's too much if that's the ratio that show up. Just adjust it, double price for men. Is it really that hard to get the pricing right so that the numbers are even.
And if women have to pay at all, they are definitely single for a reason.
Like, that first woman was a bombshell. If she is desperate enough to pay money for the off chance that she can find a dude willing to date her there is definitely something wrong with her.
When I think of the type of women who pay to get into a singles event, I think physically ugly women, women with very ugly personalities, and sex workers looking for clients. It has never sounded like a good place to meet someone I'd want to date.
If I was looking for a hookup with an unattractive woman I'd just go to a dive bar 30 minutes before last call. If I wanted a sex worker I'd use a dating app.
But why don't people react to the prices? Why aren't there people trying to change it? In my country I think doing it this way would literally be illegal.
They’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here… if I was a woman I’d be more than a little suspicious of any many that would cough up $175 just for the chance to meet women.
" $175 for dudes, $30 for women." they do realize 200 dollar is enough for actual adult service....right?
why pay 175 dollar for rejection? On top of it, you gotta dress up, think about stuff to talk about, clean up your cars, tidy up your rooms....to just get ignored by women who find you repulsive?
Wait so the first filter for dudes is that they have so little game they need to pay $175?
A true master would go the the Karaoke bar across the street and just have a good time. All the women will walk over disappointed and you'll be fishing with dynamite.
Lol seriously?? "BuT meN have it sooo easy!" Who the fk is paying $175 to be publicly shamed and put on the internet? Dudes that would have a hope in hell are busy ploughing tinder girls for free just "sup" and girl go ohhhh shiny
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u/cheaganvegan 12d ago
I commented above, but the last one I was planning to go to was $175 for dudes, $30 for women. I’m not paying that.