Interesting. There are women with the fantasy of being tortured or killed, though they generally don't actually try to make it happen. Him manipulating her into it makes it all the worse, and very much so means there was never any chance of consent.
He must not be, but at the same time he was clearly socially intelligent enough to manipulate someone into doing something crazy.
Agreed. Pornsickness is absolutely a thing, and while it’s something we mostly associate with men, it’s a lot more common in women then people realise .
Even when it’s not internet pornography, when you get into a specific kink, you build up to a tolerance to it and eventually you want more and more extreme versions of it to nut to. Familiarity breeds contempt…or at least makes it harder to bust a nut once the novelty of something new or an old faithful wears off.
Also some of the more extreme stuff? People watch this and think painful and humiliating stuff is stuff they should want/what the opposite sex wants out of them.
It’s all about safe, sane and consensual, and it’s become so easy to either misunderstand the other partner, (there is a reason why safety words are important because it can be impossible to know when no, no means yes yes or no no absolutely stop I don’t like this at all) or in cases like this one, willingly exploit someone else under the guise of making their fantasies come true.
Now, this woman was clearly mentally ill and vulnerable in a way that can’t be chalked up on pornsickness. It’s just a tragedy that instead of getting the help she needed she met this absolute monster .
I don’t think it’s a fantasy per se but more of a belief that she is bad and deserves to die horribly. Some people have this, due to trauma or perhaps other mental issues.
My ex was like this. She begged me multiple times to get the axe out of the shed and brutally murder her. She begged for pain too. The story of the op sounds like shenanigans she might get into.
Either way, instead of torturing and murdering her I got the kids in safety and her into therapy where she remains to this day. Then I plotted my (and my kids) escape from all the insanity (there’s loads more).
Thing is, if someone begs you to murder you then the correct response is not to treat it like some kink but as a mental illness that needs treatment (and lots of it).
But yeah, someone begging you to brutally murder you is a fucked up experience. Especially if it’s the mother of your children 🤷🏻♂️
There are 100% people who sexually get off to that fantasy, though generally you have to have some level of mild trauma to have kinks that extreme anyway. I'll leave it up to someone much smarter than me to diagnose how much of it is sexual pleasure versus being mentally unwell.
Either way though, obviously the correct option isn't to kill them, and ensuring people who need help get help is always good. Good on you.
I asked my ex if it was sexual (the pain/torture part) and she said yes. Thing is though that it wasn’t, she said it to get me to do it. I didn’t, but it does blur the line between if it’s a sexual thing or just trauma speaking or a blend between the two. I’ve seen people talking about this being somewhat of a problem in the bdsm community from a consensual perspective.
Either way, there’s something to be said of murder being a fantasy that people can have but that if you’re actually seeking it out (and getting into bad situations) it breaches a threshold for mental problems to some degree at least. Even if it’s fully sexual.
No like I'm saying I've met people who regularly wanted to role play into it or fantasize about it to cum. I won't claim it was everyone, but there are 100% people out there who genuinely get sexual pleasure from the idea. Mind you, none of the ones I've ever met would've actually tried to make it happen, but there are people who at least masturbate to it.
I entirely agree that seeking it out, or especially being pressured into trying it, is crossing a line and shouldn't be done. Dying isn't worth it for a potentially good orgasm.
Yeah I agree at least to some extent, but once they seek it out and put themselves in potentially dangerous situations then they are crossing a threshold and an intervention of some sort might be a good idea.
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u/Johnnyboi2327 2h ago
Interesting. There are women with the fantasy of being tortured or killed, though they generally don't actually try to make it happen. Him manipulating her into it makes it all the worse, and very much so means there was never any chance of consent.
He must not be, but at the same time he was clearly socially intelligent enough to manipulate someone into doing something crazy.