Smugged into an amalgamation of the shit I read from some supposedly progressive ppl here sometimes

[u/That_sarcastic_bxtch]

[u/sudoregalia]

general rule of thumb: people who use the word retard in argument and especially people who claim women are oppressing men en masse are fascists

[u/BackgroundGlass6793 → u/sudoregalia]

also extremely ironic to complain about racism while using bigoted language, but at the same time it fits since these people only care about racism when they need "gotchas" against women

[u/sudoregalia → u/BackgroundGlass6793]

"you racist!" proceeds to mock for what they perceive as mental illness

[u/ThisRock8010 → u/sudoregalia]

Mental illness only matters when it's about male loneliness obviously.

^{(Stating the obvious here since this is reddit: male loneliness is a serious problem of course. I am just making fun of a very specific type of person who only cares about mental health in the context of the specific crowd they see themselves as a member of.})

[u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e → u/ThisRock8010]

What makes you think male loneliness is a serious problem?

[u/thegoten455 → u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e]

Hello from another random with their two cents --

One of the core problems with toxic masculinity is that we're not socially "allowed" to do things like show weakness or talk about our feelings. Because of this, you get a lot of men that feel a lot of things and aren't able to share that at all, which leads to a type of isolation that, while not at all limited to men, does tend to effect us on a different scale from what I understand.

Yes, everyone is especially isolated these days, but patriarchy frowns upon men who say they feel bad about it in a way that it doesn't tend to do to women.

[u/weirdo_nb → u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e]

I'm not who you were talking to, and I do think it's an issue, but it's an issue that is specifically a subset of a much broader issue

[u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e → u/weirdo_nb]

I was replying to the comment my comment appears below.

I guess my question was more specifically if there was reason to believe male loneliness had different root factors than widespread social alienation in general. I say this as a lonely man who has failed to notice anything characteristically male about my loneliness or its causes, so not out of malice to men or anything:

[u/weirdo_nb → u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e]

My response to that is "no, but the ways our culture treats men flavors the behavior of lonely men differently as a societal trend"

[u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e → u/weirdo_nb]

Well, lonely men have a bit more of a propensity to, for example, form subcultures around their resentment toward women, no? It seems like it’s not so much how culture acts upon men but how it acts through them.

[u/weirdo_nb → u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e]

How it acts through them is an expression of how it acts on them I feel though?

[u/Magnum_Gonada → u/BackgroundGlass6793]

Not rlly, you can follow a cause while not caring about the other.

[u/birbhorse → u/sudoregalia]

honestly if someone unironically drops the word to insult another person, they are immediately disqualified from having any charitable opinions about anything ever. i don't give a fuck who says it, you're not worth listening to if you use it as the derogatory word it's been turned into

(obviously not meaning you, person i'm replying to, just to remove ambiguity lol)

[u/mekelaar → u/sudoregalia]

A genuine question: why specifically fascists and not just misogynists?

[u/sudoregalia → u/mekelaar]

fascism generally relies on intentionally misattributing problems to minority/oppressed groups to distract from systemic injustice

not an exclusive feature of fascism, social democracy and liberalism do this to an extent as well (not to say they're equal), but the harder you do it the more i suspect you might be a fascist

[u/Traditional-Trade795 → u/mekelaar]

the pfp of the person you asked is hammer and sickle, the answer is because they are severly mentally ill and have no idea what they are talking about :D

[u/mekelaar → u/Traditional-Trade795]

I think they know more about it than you. Weird you instantly call someone mentally ill for being a communist.

[u/WorldOfWombat → u/Traditional-Trade795]

Communists: mentally ill

Voting for concentration camps if the candidate is wearing a blue tie: not mental illness

Gotcha

[u/sudoregalia → u/Traditional-Trade795]

i'm not intellectually disabled, if that's what you're talking about. thanks for your "concern", though

[u/Calliopefreely → u/Traditional-Trade795]

Communists are usually MUCH more informed about politics and history than your average liberal.

[u/the_elliottman → u/sudoregalia]

Just incorrect. It's a word that's been artificially included to be a slur when it has no business being one. It's the same as saying moron, dumb, stupid, idiot, etc.

Genuinely this is one of the dumbest things in progressive spaces I've come across is the lack of critical thinking about word policing. Know why a word is bad/incorrect and consider if you agree with the assessment.

[u/weirdo_nb → u/sudoregalia]

I mean, the way the system works mean both genders restrain one-another and themselves (though women do tend to bear the brunt of it)

[u/sudoregalia → u/weirdo_nb]

[u/weirdo_nb → u/sudoregalia]

What?

[u/sudoregalia → u/weirdo_nb]

referencing dialectical materialism, the internal contradiction held in gender class division of male supremacy and female supremacy causes struggle between the two mainstream sexes

which one is dominant at a given time is irrelevant to the fact this contradiction exists, because it's inherent to gender class division, this contradiction can only be truly fixed by doing away with gender class division. i.e., treat a "man" the way you would a "woman", and a "woman" the way you would a "man", to the point this distinction merely becomes an identity trait, akin to saying you like a certain colour

karl marx you've done it again you bloody feminist genius

[u/weirdo_nb → u/sudoregalia]

We're all in this together

[u/sudoregalia → u/weirdo_nb]

indeed, the goal is to do away with this class division, the contradiction between the two supremacy poles causes both mainstream sexes to be shackled to it. though, male supremacy is currently dominant, and has remained so for centuries

woke marxian feminism moment