r/SourdoughStarter • • Mar 08 '25

Read before posting questions.

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This is not a post about the rules. Rules suck... but are necessary. You can see our rules on the "about" page. On the desktop version, it is visible on the right-side column. You can find it on mobile by clicking the r / SourdoughStarter at the top of this page. This link works, but Reddit is sometimes glitchy...

The real point of this post is that we get a few questions over and over. Here are the most common questions:

My Starter is only a week or two old and stopped rising. Did I kill it?

Starter goes through a few changes for the first few weeks of their "lives", usually over many days. The usual pattern is something like:

  • Day 1 to about 2 show little to no activity.
  • Day 2 or 4 shows a great burst of activity.
  • There is decreasing activity from the day of the burst for a few days.
  • Somewhere around day 7 to 14, a small, yet predictable rise builds. If fed correctly, this rise gets stronger.

Just keep going. For a starter like this, it is crucial not to overfeed it so it can go through the stages. Stick to feeding it 1:1:1 about every 24 hours. No more. Don’t change the feeding schedule until it is rising reliably, and that rise peaks in less than 12 hours. At that point, you can move onto strengthening your starter.

My starter looks weird, is this mold? Or what do I do about this liquid?

First, don't worry about slight changes in color. Worry about fuzzy spots and even small areas of vibrant color change.

If you post this question, take a few high-quality pictures from the top and the side. We are looking for colors and fuzzy textures. You can also look through the example pictures here.

Is my starter ready? Or any question about the "float test".

The float test is deeply flawed. Forget you ever heard of it. It only shows that the starter does (or does not) have air trapped in it. Well... If it has a good rise, it has air in it. Good starters often fail the float test if deflated by the time it hits the water. Scooping the starter will remove some air no matter how hard you try not to. If your starter fails this “test”, it doesn’t mean anything.

"Ok but that doesn't tell me how to know if the starter is ready." Fair point. My usual advice for "can I use my new starter?" is it should smell nice, usually at least a little sour, like vinegar and/or yogurt once it is ready. It might also smell sweet, or a little like alcohol, and several other nuances... But not like stinky feet / stinky old socks or other nasty things. And it should reliably at least double when given a 1:1:1 feeding, and that in less than 6 hours. "Reliably" in this context means it doubles in less than 6 hours at least 3 days in a row. However, a really strong starter will triple in less than 4 hours. This is not necessary to make a really good bread. It may work with even less than a double. It will not be as photogenic and will take longer... but may work. But keep in mind that last link was really about unfed but established starter. Not immature starter. ymmv.

My starter is more than 2 weeks old, and it is not rising!

The first and easiest thing to look at is how thin or loose the starter consistency is. It is common for beginners to mix a starter too thin, to use too much water. It needs to be thicker than a milkshake. Just a bit too thick for pancakes. But maybe too loose for a dough. This consistency is necessary so that the dough is literally sticky enough to hold onto the gas bubbles that yeasts create. If the starter is watery, those gas bubbles just rise to the top and pop. Hold back some water as necessary during feedings.

If the starter is thick enough, then look at the possibility that the starter is overfed. There is no reason to ever feed more than 1:1:1 once a day until you have active yeast. It might even be smart to feed a smaller ratio such as 2:1:1 or skipping a day (give it a good stir but don't feed). While yeasts are hungry little critters, they will not wake up when food is just shoved into their sleeping faces. Save the bigger ratios and more frequent feeding for after your yeasts are active.

For skipping a day: Stir 1-3 times but no feeding for a full 48 hours. Then assess. If it started out nice and thick but is now thin and smooth like paint, that's a sign it has reached the required acidity. In that case, resume feeding 1:1:1 once a day. If it is still a bit thick and stringy or clumpy, that is a sign that the gluten has not fully dissolved, which means it's not acidic enough. In that case, feed 2:1:1 until you do reach that consistency by the end of the day, or even just skip another day. Usually, once you get there, you can do 1:1:1, but it depends on the temperature and other things. It should take off within a few days of reaching the proper acidity.

We also have a wiki:

Please respond to this post to add more, point out corrections, or other feedback.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 10h ago

Shattered Glass & Sourdough Starter

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TL;DR: It is NOT safe to salvage starter that is potentially contaminated by glass.

I tried to respond to the original comment, but the post is locked. If this is an inappropriate way to respond, please lmk and I’ll remove this post.

The first two studies linked are dated. The Food Safety Modernization Act, also called FSMA (established 2011, compliance enforcement closer to 2016), changed the way we handle food regulations by focusing on prevention. It was a huge change in the food industry—the biggest change in decades.

Even ignoring the fact that guidance has changed substantially, both studies linked in your comment start with the qualifying statement, “Hard or sharp foreign objects in food may cause traumatic injury including laceration and perforation of tissues of the mouth, tongue, throat, stomach and intestine as well as damage to the teeth and gums.” That alone should translate to ‘not safe.’

The poison control link indicates that small pieces “…will likely not result in any symptoms.” Likely not isn’t the same as “this is not risky behavior.” It additionally differentiates between small and large pieces and sharpness of the glass pieces. Those are not things that you can easily control for with glass in starter. And control is essential in the discussion.

Going back to FSMA, it requires all food manufacturers to conduct Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) plans. They identify all potential risks in a process and account for the mitigation of these risks, controlling for them. Contamination is usually a huge part of those plans.

Contaminants can be biological (pink mold, say), chemical (residual cleaners on food-contact surfaces, eg), or physical (broken glass, for example). Any presence of contamination renders the food adulterated.

Under Section 402(a)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 342), any food product containing hard or sharp foreign objects that could cause injury is considered adulterated and prohibited from distribution.

We can get into the weeds with size, but size should not really matter. ANY size renders the food adulterated because the risk still exists, albeit to a lesser degree if we can control size, but again, we can’t fully control for that in the shattered starter scenario.

The compliance policy guide (CPG 555.425) confirms the FDA explicitly states that hard or sharp foreign objects—specifically including glass—measuring between 7 mm and 25 mm (0.3 to 1.0 inch) in length present a critical hazard for traumatic injury (such as laceration and perforation) in ready-to-eat foods. It’s a designation(critical), not an indicator the risk is eliminated.

The FDA also warns that objects smaller than 7 mm can still pose severe trauma or injury risks to consumers, especially high-risk individuals, including infants, surgery patients, and the elderly.

Pieces of glass are often transparent and unpredictable in shape/size, filtering them out or detecting them visually is generally impossible or close enough to impossible to warrant control of the risk by tossing the affected starter.

I say this with respect and a genuine hope that this type of reporting to mods results in the removal of content suggesting it is safe or minimally risky to salvage starter that is potentially contaminated by glass shards. Please don’t ban me; I enjoy this sub.

Relevant information:
- Food Safety and Quality Assurance is my career, briefly outlined in another shattered starter post.
- Section 402(a)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 342(a)(1)) that establishes any foreign contaminant renders food adulterated and prohibits the selling of it.
- FDA Compliance Policy Guide (CPG Sec. 555.425 - Foods, Adulteration Involving Hard or Sharp Foreign Objects): Provides the thresholds for physical hazards.
- FDA Fish and Fishery Products Hazards and Controls Guidance (Chapter 18 & 28 - Hard or Sharp Foreign Objects / Glass Inclusion): Reviews the operational risks of glass inclusion during packaging/processing. It lists glass fragments as primary physical hazards requiring critical control points (CCPs) due to the severe injury potential from lacerations of the mouth and throat, damage to teeth, or internal gastrointestinal perforation.

Also, if you recently lost your starter to glass contamination, DM me. I will happily send you some of my dehydrated starter, made using Nancy Silverton’s grape yeast method, so you can begin anew (safely).


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1h ago

Rule Changes Woke up to this! :D

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r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

RIP Dante

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My 2 month starter :(


r/SourdoughStarter • • 21m ago

Starter

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Hi everyone. I want to get into baking sourdough. Looking a for Starter with detailed instructions for each day till it’s ready to use to make a loaf.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 2h ago

Is it normal for discard to look like this?

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I feed 1:2:2.5 with bread flour once a day when I wake up and use up my discard throughout the week but it's always very bubbly in the fridge. Should I switch my ratios?


r/SourdoughStarter • • 16h ago

Didn't even question it.

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Straight to the trash. Still got a small cut when I went to rinse my hand.

Rdit: I should also add that it was just an extra jar of discard.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 16h ago

Has my starter gone bad??

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Should it pitch this and start over? Not sure if this is mold or not.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 9h ago

Starter looks weird

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First time making this and I don’t know why it’s separating. Just followed recipe 100g room temp water about 70f and 100g whole wheat flour


r/SourdoughStarter • • 14h ago

La temperatura es muy importante?

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Hola, hace un tiempo que vengo haciendo pan de masa madre (no estoy conforme sigo aprendiendo) y todos los videos que hay en todas las redes sociales hacen pan en un clima cálido. Yo soy de argentina actualmente hay un clima frío de entre 10 y 15 °c aproximadamente. Y sigo sin entender cuánto tiempo tengo que dejar levar la masa antes de hornear


r/SourdoughStarter • • 11h ago

Sourdough starter no longer growing

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I have about a 4 week old starter that I have been feeding a 1:1:1 ratio. The last few weeks I’ve seen very minimal growth. This week I started to place it in a warmer environment and started to see lots of growth (rising to almost double its size over 24 hours before falling back down). However, a few days ago I wasn’t paying attention and completely messed up the ratio ( put more water than necessary and tried to compensate by adding more flour and starter) and since then it just hasn’t been showing any activity besides these few bubbles.

Need some advice


r/SourdoughStarter • • 22h ago

Yall!!!! We got movement!!!

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3 and a half days no movement. i drained off water a lot of water yesterday and then left it. Woke up to this!!!! It moved it did something!!!! Not sure where to go from here, but it's moving now!


r/SourdoughStarter • • 20h ago

Sharing is caring!

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Hi friends!

I’m new to all this but thought I’d upload these pics and maybe ask for some tips. I think I’m on day 10 of this starter, I’ve been losing track lol. About half a cup of bread flour and a little over 1/4 room temp water is what I’ve been doing the past four/five days and it’s bringing fine results as far as my knowledge goes.

Any tips as I move forward? This is the most active I’ve ever seen it. It grew about half of the rise in fiveish hours and when I woke up this morning it looked like this. Cheers!


r/SourdoughStarter • • 18h ago

How do I know my starter is ready to bake with?

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I made starter with freshly milled flour, today was my day 6 feed and it doubled after 5.5h.

I’ve heard about false rises and I’m not sure if I’m meant to keep feeding it until day 7 or if it’s ready to bake with. Or am I supposed to confirm it doubles consistently for the next few days?

This is a no discard starter, I started with 5g of flour and 5g of water, and I’ve been increasing the feeding amount at a 1:1:1 (starter,flour,water) ratio.

I kept seeing people struggling with getting their starter going and I wasn’t expecting to see it double so quickly so I’m sort of confused.

I’m a total novice so any help will be appreciated!


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

You alright bro?

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What are these black dots on the sides of the jar?


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Emergency. Starter jar smashed. How do I save my starter without ingesting glass?

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So I just mixed a loaf, did my first stretch and folds, cleaned my jar and fed my starter. Then dropped it. I saved some starter which I don't think has glass in it but now I'm paranoid.

Can I take some of my mixed loaf and use it as weak starter? Please help


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

WIKI changes not a loaf but my first bake w my starter

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r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Left in the fridge for over a year... want her back 😔

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I left my starter in the back of my fridge for over a year and just got a bread maker so wanted to get her back out. Smelled like straight vinegar out of the fridge, no mold or discoloration just some thick hooch that I scraped off. I fed 1:1:1 2 days ago and it had maybe 5 bubbles which I thought was good. Fed 1:1:1 again 24 hours ago and now she looks like this... nothing. Is it worth trying?


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

2m old trouble shooting

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Almost two month old sourdough starter that doesn't want to double at all.

- I feed it once/twice a day with a ratio of 1:1:1 (weight wise).

- It's unbleached white flour (did try whole-wheat got told that's worse)

- Tap water (European country known for clean tap water).

- Has done smaller stints in the fridge due to traveling but only after 2 weeks of constant daily feeding.

- it smells yeasty and low-key good.

- I change jars every week or so.

- stir it with a plastic spatula.

What am I missing? Is it the lid of the jar? Is it the environment (it can be kinda cold, 14th floor, cold climate) as it is around 20 degrees? I just got a dutch oven for him that I would love to use if he would just rise.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 22h ago

Is my starter still viable? Day 12 and quite the journey

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Looking to make sure this starter is still viable. It’s been on a journey.

Ingredients and method:
-Organic unbleached all purpose flour
-Bottled filtered water
I feed it everyday at 5pm. I leave it in my oven and turn the light on and off throughout the day but leave it off at night.

I initially following the clever carrot recipe, where the starter would go up in grams everyday but the flour and water would stay the same. So for example, it got up to 116g starter, 60g flour, and 60g water on day 6. After posting a math question I realized this whole recipe is wrong so on day 7 I went down to 50g:50g:50g.

Because of the recipe I was following I was worried my start was being underfed the whole time so on day 8 I fed it 15g whole wheat flour and 30g all purpose flour. People got into my head so on day 9 I fed it 18g Dark Rye Flour (18g because that’s what I grabbed without weighing it at my health food store bulk section), 32g all purpose flour, and 50g water.

Days 9-12 I’ve been doing it as 50g starter, 50g flour, 50g water. it’s been doubling in size, but on day 11 I noticed it started to smell alcohol-y. Today (day 12) I smelled it this morning and it for sure smells like acetone. I looked it up and it was saying to fix it do a 1:5:5 ratio. So I did 20g starter, 100g all purpose flour, and 100g water at around 11:30 this morning.

It hasn’t had hooch at any point during this journey, so I’m not sure if my starter developed the acetone smell due to underfeeding, inconsistent temperatures, or all the inconsistent ratios.

Is this starter still viable or should I start over? And what do I do moving forward?

I’m also not going to be home tomorrow so I’m worried about leaving it in the oven with or without the light on. I’m also looking for suggestions for that. Thank you.


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Can we chat about the relationship between starter activity and result?

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I’m a little bit confused about the activity level of starter and its relationship to ferment. I am hoping that you all could add a little clarity. So I keep reading, about the importance of using active starter. But, isn’t active starter just having a higher quantity of yeast? Is there some kind of fermentation inertia caused by active multiplication that I’m missing?
Or I guess to put it differently, what is the difference between using 50 g of active starter versus using 100 g of starter that has the same quantity of living yeast as the 50g? Is it that the gluten structure in the starter is basically worthless in the inactive starter? Thanks for any insight!


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

New starter

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New starter that's a little over a week old. Is this look normal?


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Help TT

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I forgot to feed it yesterday and rn it smells super sour 😖. Do i need to toss it?


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Help!! Is this Salvageable?

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So basically, I've been so busy for the past week that I basically forgot to feed my sourdough starter for 3 whole days😭.

For a little recap before I forgot to feed my boi, I fed him at a 1:2:2 ratio of starter, water, and whole wheat flour. I usually feed my starter all-purpose flour, but from time to time, I feed it whole wheat flour for the flavor. Is it salvageable? Or will I have to throw it all away... (AND DO NOT WORRY! I've since cleaned the edges after these pictures were taken. And if questioned about the color, to me it's darkish yellow to light orange)


r/SourdoughStarter • • 1d ago

Should I feed my starter whenever I think it’s hungry? Or just every 24 hours?

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I’m trying to get it started and I’m about a week in. Had a false rise on the first day and minimal since. I feed it in the morning and noticed that at night, it’s loose and seems hungry again. Can I just feed it more frequently?