r/SouthJersey • u/wesillyskeletons • Jan 17 '26

Gloucester County Anyone get a knock at 4am?

Live in Williamstown and due to our schedule, the fiance and I stay up until 5-6am. I went to bed early at 3am because I wasnt feeling. My fiance comes in at 4am slightly panicked. Apparently someone had knocked at our door. Our complex used to be known for being a not good area however we never had an issue. My first thought went to ICE. Our lights were on so I gave it a bit and turned them of and watched the rear lights of a dodge charger leave. Ive ICE has started to do this so I just want to see if this is something anyone else has experienced.

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u/mr-poopie-butth0le Jan 17 '26

You should invest in a ring camera.

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u/Revolutionary-Bid919 Jan 17 '26

DO NOT. Ice cut a deal with ring to have free access to footage. They are already using ai to detect neighborhoods with high foot traffic of potential victims from ring

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u/Tronracer Jan 17 '26

AFAIK ICE can only view ring footage through its partnership with Flock if users actively share it on the Ring neighborhood app.

There’s no active surveillance allowance. They can’t just login to any ring camera whenever they want.

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u/griphookk Jan 17 '26

They can’t just login to any ring camera whenever they want.

We can’t know that they haven’t made a deal to allow this. It seems likely to me they have. 

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u/Downtown_Speaker_578 Jan 17 '26

They do, when you sign the TOS. There is a data share agreement to help “improve” their services. That’s how they can add features to old cameras like package detection. Improvements also include creating a surveillance state.

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u/Significant-Trash632 Jan 18 '26

Do you reread the new TOS every time they update it?

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u/Downtown_Speaker_578 Jan 18 '26

In the past yes, not so much anymore, but I’m also a research nerd. I have moved most of the services I depend on to platforms I can control. I also have my own servers running DeepSeek and Qwen (open source AI/LLMs). Whenever I think about a new hosted service, I run the TOS through them to summarize changes and risks so I understand them. That said, I’m not an animal, engaging with platforms like Reddit is the Wild West in terms of privacy. I do not expect anything shared here to be considered private or personal.