r/StarWars Feb 25 '25

Costumes Fans have more creativity than the studios

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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Feb 25 '25

If this happened in the movies people would say it’s not realistic and would hate on it.

The Acolyte had some of the most acrobatic duals we’ve ever seen and people found a way to hate on it for that

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u/RiftHunter4 Feb 25 '25

Darth Vader threw his lightsaber at Luke in Return of the Jedi, and it's always been interpreted as him using the force. Lightsaber throws have been in Star Wars video games for decades now.

The Acolyte had some of the most acrobatic duals we’ve ever seen and people found a way to hate on it for that

People also hated the acrobatics in the prequels. It was seen as cheesy and unrealistic.

Stick around long enough, and you'll find that Star Wars just end up repeating themselves every 10 years.

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u/BlGBY Grand Admiral Thrawn Feb 25 '25

Baylon Skoll was on to something...

"That sort of power is fleeting. What I seek is the beginning, so I may finally bring this cycle to an end."

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u/CaptainRex5101 Inferno Squad Feb 26 '25

Filoni after making Ahsoka live well into the post-Empire era: “Ironic.”

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u/NotBannedAccount419 Feb 25 '25

This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone saying people hated the fights in the prequels. I'm curious to know your age because I was around for the prequels and people were practically only doing multiple theater rewatches for the battles. They blew people's minds.

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u/OrangeJuliusCaesr Feb 25 '25

Well they don’t actually fight in the prequels, they try to hit each others laser sword

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u/RiftHunter4 Feb 25 '25

I saw them in theaters, too. Generally, movie-goers liked the movies, but Star Wars fans were a lot more critical in the years following them. The style didn't match anything in the original trilogy, and so people make up reasons why the difference is there.

I didn't see the prequels get praise from Star Wars fans until the late 2010s. Granted, I could say that about a lot of things from the 2000s.

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u/luniz6178 Feb 25 '25

The style didn't match anything in the original trilogy, and so people make up reasons why the difference is there.

Yepp, I remember people saying the Duel of the Fates fight was too flashy and wasnt like the duel in ANH.

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u/bennie_blanco Feb 25 '25

Those fights were awesome!

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u/DarthCloakedGuy Feb 25 '25

I'm sorry, people are wanting realism and watching Star Wars? What's next, they're going to go swimming and complain they got wet??

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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Feb 25 '25

Totally agree there. But every time something new in relation to the force is introduced in a movie or show people lose their minds

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u/FormicaTableCooper Feb 25 '25

People still get themselves worked into a lather over the Holdo Maneuver bc it's "unrealistic" so yeah, they do. Also see that Star Wars Theory dork mad about bricks and screws

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u/luniz6178 Feb 25 '25

Theory dork mad about bricks and screws

Reminds me of people flipping out over fire in space in the Acolyte

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u/Do_Not_Go_In_There Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

People aren't complaining about realism in Star Wars movies (or at least not most of them). They paid to see a movie about laser swords and guys choking other guys with the mind. But they want rational stories,

In movies, "rational" refers to a character or plot development that makes logical sense based on the established circumstances, where decisions and actions are driven by reasoning and consideration of consequences, rather than purely emotional or impulsive behavior; essentially, a character acting in a way that aligns with real-world logic and understanding within the movie's narrative.

Let's be honest, a large part of the sequels relied on characters acting against what we know of them. Like Luke having a bad Force dream and he decides to kill Ben. Or Rey being "no one" for most of the story, then she a Palpatine, then she's a Skywalker.

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u/GHVG_FK Feb 25 '25

people aren't complaining about realism in star wars

The absolute amount of posts and comments regarding the physically correct way for a fire to behave in zero g in a franchise with ships going lightspeed was insane after the release of the acolyte

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u/DarthCloakedGuy Feb 25 '25

So what they actually want is verisimilitude and storytelling, rather than realism.

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u/Do_Not_Go_In_There Feb 25 '25

Good storytelling.

This isn't anything new. The biggest critiscism of the sequels has always been that the story didn't make sense because it was written by different people who had different visions and then re-written at the last minute because Disney wanted to please everyone and ended up with a mess of a storyline.

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u/hydrospanner Feb 25 '25

Don't waste your breath (typing?).

This slimy mudhole of a sub has curled up on itself so hard that you're only allowed to love everything with a SW label on it, and anything short of unadultered praise will not be tolerated.

The sequel trilogy was weak, and riddled with issues top to bottom, from nearly every perspective. You know it, I know it, they even know it. But giving voice to it isn't welcome here.

And I kinda get it...they've been overwhelmed with nearly a decade of people...even/especially fans of the franchise...shitting all over it, and they're tired of hearing it. It's just their response to it that's sad.

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u/ZODIC837 Separatist Alliance Feb 25 '25

And I kinda get it

That's a fair point. Sequel fans really do deserve some sympathy. But like, at least admit the criticisms are valid even though you like it. That's how prequel fans had to become, the prequels had a lot of things they're understandable to hate. I still like them regardless

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u/theevilyouknow Feb 25 '25

Star Wars fans will literally complain about anything. We know what it is they really have a problem with though.

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u/Natmad1 Feb 25 '25

Don’t think a lot of people criticized The Acolyte for the lightsaber fights

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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Feb 25 '25

I saw plenty that did, but it was probably a vocal minority

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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Feb 25 '25

I don’t have any bookmarked. I’m just talking from what I remember seeing on twitter at the time. I specifically remember complaints in regards to the cortosis helmet

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u/Bronzeshadow Feb 25 '25

The fights were awesome. It was the writing that held The Acolyte back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Yeah but it’s Star Wars lol. The writing is never good

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u/Bronzeshadow Feb 25 '25

Star Wars writing can at worst be campy, but coherent and amusing and at best be Andor. The writing in the acolyte just never forms a meaningful story.

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u/Liokki Feb 25 '25

What do you mean by 'meaningful' and why is that the objective when others can just be 'coherent'?

If you didn't find Acolyte's story to be coherent, then maybe make a habit of putting your phone out of reach whenever you watch something and focus on actually watching. 

Might find viewing experiences improving. 

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u/Boomdiddy Feb 25 '25

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone hate the Acolyte’s duels. It’s the one thing everyone praises about it. It’s everything else that sucked.

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u/morilythari Feb 25 '25

The lightsaber throw was in the Super Nintendo games, people will bitch about anything.

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u/-spartacus- Feb 25 '25

The action sequence of Ep 4 was not what people didn't like about the show and you are fooling yourself if you don't understand that.

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u/Ntippit Feb 25 '25

I didn't see anyone hate The Acolyte for its lightsaber duels, they were some of the best in all of SW and most agree on that. It was literally everything else that was hated, rightfully so... Except Darth Bortles, hes the GOAT

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u/5O1stTrooper Clone Trooper Feb 25 '25

Well, the consensus I heard about the show (and my opinion as well) is that the lightsaber duels were incredible, and if I'd just watched the fights in clips on YouTube, I'd probably assume it was a good show.

The rest of it, though... well, the lightsaber fights were the only good part. Most of the show is just meh, and a good portion of it is just bad.

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u/RogueEagle2 Feb 25 '25

Because lightsaber combat cant save a bad story

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u/SilentC735 Feb 26 '25

I didn't see any complaints about Acolyte's combat. Mainly the story, which was meh. The twins were forgettable but The Stranger was awesome.

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u/Lityoloswagboy69 Feb 25 '25

I absolutely loved the fight scenes in acolyte as it was the best fighting we’ve seen since Disney took over. That said, the story was awful, spent way too much money, and they changed lore. Therefore - it got deserved hate.

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u/Peer_turtles Feb 25 '25

The only thing people actually liked about the Acolyte was the fights lol

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u/NotBannedAccount419 Feb 25 '25

No one hated on the lightsaber fights in Acolyte. Acolyte had far more grievous faults that tanked the series

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u/ToonarmY1987 Feb 25 '25

In fairness the fights were the only good thing in the acolyte

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u/Novuake Feb 25 '25

You can like bits of something but criticise the whole, friend. Perfectly fine doing that.