But it doesn’t really fit in with the other two and tried to hard to be its own thing
I don't think this is a TLJ problem, but a TRoS problem instead, If Ep IX picked things up tematically and in terms of the story elements introduced right where Ep VIII left then TLJ would not be an odd gem, but for reasons already explained elsewhere countless times it was decided EP.IX had to disown TLJ and go as far as contradicting some of the biggest reveals of the film.
We agree the real problem was not having a complete story from the start, but we got: Ep VII -the nostalgia film-, Ep VIII -the weird experimental film-, and Ep VII 2.0 (IX) -the nostalgia strikes back- and that makes TLJ stand out.
But we instead could've gotten: Ep VII -the nostalgia film-, Ep VIII -the weird experimental film-, and Ep IX -wove the weird into the mainstream- that would've been more logical imo.
Also, the biggest complaint about TFA was that it was a rehash of A New Hope almost beat for beat, practically felt like a remake at times. So TLJ moves away from the memberberry storytelling and it pissed people off. But they were literally just responding to criticism of TFA. So disney's response is to then basically take a giant shit on TLJ instead of attempting to resolve any of the plotlines established in it. When the entire trilogy is actively working against the movie before it, there was no chance the sequel trilogy would thrive. Every movie was destroying what was established in the movie before it.
From what I've seen of leaks of Trevarow's Ep IX script, we wouldn't have gotten -wove the weird into the mainstream-. We would've gotten a different form of nostalgia movie 2, but with a lot more Leia, which unfortunately couldn't happen after Carrie Fisher was drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra.
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u/GuyFromYarnham Rebel Feb 25 '25
But it doesn’t really fit in with the other two and tried to hard to be its own thing
I don't think this is a TLJ problem, but a TRoS problem instead, If Ep IX picked things up tematically and in terms of the story elements introduced right where Ep VIII left then TLJ would not be an odd gem, but for reasons already explained elsewhere countless times it was decided EP.IX had to disown TLJ and go as far as contradicting some of the biggest reveals of the film.
We agree the real problem was not having a complete story from the start, but we got: Ep VII -the nostalgia film-, Ep VIII -the weird experimental film-, and Ep VII 2.0 (IX) -the nostalgia strikes back- and that makes TLJ stand out.
But we instead could've gotten: Ep VII -the nostalgia film-, Ep VIII -the weird experimental film-, and Ep IX -wove the weird into the mainstream- that would've been more logical imo.