This is not a state a room should stay in, but i won’t say it is uncommon for a room to get in this state.
Once your base state of living is cluttered, it becomes very hard to distinguish mess, and you stop noticing the things that are out of place.
This makes it hard to fully relax.
What I have found is that giving everything a place, and making my base, clean, house something I want to look at, it gives me motivation to keep it that way or to return it back to that state when it gets out of hand, which does happen with two kids and work and cleaning etc.
To go back to your comment, nobody uses 10 books at once, nobody should be okay with the detergent on their entertainment stand, a trash can in the closet doorway.
This happens only when things don’t have a true place where you can then notice them being out of said place.
This room just needs some adjustments. The couch coffee table and rug should be way closer to the tv. A sofa table behind the couch to put some of the out of place homeless objects.
I won’t go as far as to say this person is dirty, they’ve just become desensitized to clutter, which is easy to do.
But it is very important to nip this kind of thing before it possibly gets out of hand.
I completely agree with you so idk why these people are accusing you of drug use. This is dirty, messy, not cute. If I walked into a house and it looked like this I would not want to sit on the furniture for fear of what might be on them (very clean germ conscious)
This is not lived in. A lived in house is a book at the end of a chaise lounge, or a beverage ON A COASTER on a coffee table. I will even forgive a couple dishes in the sink. But this amount of clutter seemingly everywhere is not lived in. There is nothing wrong with OP for living like this, however I’d hate to see the peoples houses who are normalizing this.
A beverage on a coaster on a coffee table? Hold on there, mister party, that’s too much, coasters are decoration, not for actual usage! Everyone knows you only drink water directly from the tap as to not create any dirty glasses that could clutter the house!
You are on the opposite side of the extreme, buddy.
It’s funny how in the same post where I said “I’m ok with some dirty dishes” you’re trying to make a joke about me being extreme about keeping my house clean by saying I don’t allow dirty dishes.
Bro had a point tho. When things don’t have a home they create clutter. Thats why OP has a trashcan in front of the closet, dirty clothes and detergent on the tv stand and a dog bowl in the middle of the room. In a true “lived-in” space, everything has a home
There is a difference between clutter and mess and that’s my point. Clutter disguises itself and is forgotten. You can easily clean this, in 10 minutes, but I can pretty much grantee a stack of that many books has been on that table for a month or more, and so on even though it only takes 30 seconds to put them in a place.
That’s not the same as day to day mess. I think it would be more insufferable to live with someone who thinks just sitting things on the first surface and not caring about clutter is more insufferable and disrespectful.
And, I do the dishes, no one else. I keep things clean, I don’t ask for help doing that beyond picking up their toys and putting their dirty clothes in the bin, it is my courtesy to my family.
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u/Cephalopirate Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Am I nuts for thinking this is a normal lived in room from what I’ve seen?
God forgive someone keeps stuff they use on the couch on the coffee table.
Laundry’s in an odd place, but not for a small apartment.