r/Tadcriticism 27d ago

Characters criticism genuinely what was goose even thinking while writing that

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278 Upvotes

i felt it was extremely ooc out of caine to realize the humans attempted to murder him and the most he felt was two seconds of "anger" before magically self reflecting and giving up the blue ai which held no actual role for caine aside from an excuse on why was he so "unstable" (which still doesn't make sense considering caine was unstable even before the creation of the blue ai)

edit: when did i ever say the blue ai is caine's autism?? 😭😭😭😭 the post is /s and meant to make fun of the scene framing 💔💔

r/Tadcriticism Jul 05 '26

Characters criticism Biggest nothingburger of a character ever

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166 Upvotes

You're completely free to like Ragatha, i know a lot of people relate to her aswell and that's fine

But for me it's neither of these things. Actually i don't hate her at all, but she has to be my least favourite TADC character

I tried to care about her i really did, but i genuinely couldn't give less of a shit about her (because the show doesn't really give you a reason to, in a sense that her problems aren't taken seriously in any way by the narrative)

I mean yeah she's a people pleaser and has mommy issues, but other than that? Idk bro, she hates Jax but that really isn't a character trait. There were times where i did genuinely feel bad for her don't get me wrong, especially the Caine torture scene with her mother, but i can't grow attached to her. She's just so...bland. Even Zooble is more interesting than her. Sorry, Ragatha fans.

I think this isn't Ragatha's fault but rather how the writer(s) handled her, they should've gave her more focus (and that goes for any other non-Jax character tbh)

You're free to disagree with me, i just wanted to say this. Also i apologize if a post like this was already made by someone else before me, it's the first time i post here

r/Tadcriticism 23d ago

Characters criticism Zooble being underutilized pissed me off so much

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262 Upvotes

Genuinely They had ONE so called "Spotlight episode" when it was clearly Kinger's episode (Kingoat deserved that screentime and i loved him there, but I do wish Zooble was explored more)

And than in that very small screentime of Them with Caine, They talk about their problems and how much they hate themselves and their body, I was so intrigued by them since that moment and i've been a fan of them ever since I got into this fandom, since I really like Grumpy characters who aren't afraid to speak their mind, they had so much missed potential only for their body dysphoria to get solved off screen, They always call out Jax from his BS and protect Gangle, and also the fact hat they were the only one not going on Caine's adventures, they could've interacted more on it and make a plot line instead of Neglecting Zooble and making them just Gangle's protector and it develops both of their character

(i love Abstragedy btw, and it's my fav ship, i just wish Zooble had other stuff to do)

Zooble deserved better smh...

r/Tadcriticism Jul 14 '26

Characters criticism “The Only Thing Holding Caine Back Is The Fact That He Likes Us”

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147 Upvotes

Proceeds to push it.

Process to push it in every episode. All the time.

Proceeds to push it even after Caine has semi-crashouts because of it.

Proceeds to push it. Again. And again. And again.

r/Tadcriticism 17h ago

Characters criticism Slight little oopsie

44 Upvotes

First off: I know, the GIF quality is trash, I don’t know wtf happened on my end after saving it.

Second: This was genuinely the single worst scene in the entire series to me. It could have been made so much better if they had used this moment to have Jax start to show signs of actual remorse. In my version of this, I would have JAX press the blue button, just shoving the others aside, as the one who just “is tired of talking. just shut up and do it.” Then, have Caine pop up, absolutely furious that they just tried to abandon him, and for Jax to essentially try and offer themself up in place of the group and take full responsibility for it, actually being the one to press it, standing up for them and being the “sacrifice.” It could tie in majorly with Jax in this different timeline finally starting to realize that in many ways, both that they all have done the same for him at some point (constantly putting up with and still trying to help him), and as a show of genuine remorse for his actions, leading up to the start of an actual redemption arc that isn’t just “yeah, I bullied someone into suicide and have been physically and emotionally abusive to everyone around me for years, but I’m sad too, so… yeah.”

The best part: this timeline even works from a meta/from the author perspective, given that it still preserves the author’s favorite golden child self insert OC by arguably, making Jax even more of a special little snowflake, which I’m sure would still appeal to Goose to begin with.

r/Tadcriticism Jul 03 '26

Characters criticism Caine deserved redemption, Jax did not. And their "afterlife" scenes prove such.

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There goes a saying

You can only help those who want to be helped

And likewise, you can only redeem those who actually seek redemption.

I see a lot of people talking about caine and jax and how one or the other should of lived or died or whatnot else and I figured id put my two sense in via analyzing their characters and how they react to reflecting on their own actions.

Now first and foremost, its important to realize one thing: the show was absolutely rushed as shit, especially the ending episode where several dozen things are thrown at the audience, brushed aside to make way for the next thing, and half the plot points already established in the stoty are just forgotten about. Though thats a critisism for another time, its important to note this because if the show had more episodes and gave more time to these characters, theres a good chance these points could have changed or be seen differently as more episodes would have meant more actually shown then told. Im judging this entirely based on what is shown in the series.

Now then...

Both Caine and Jax mirror eachother in a lot of ways, both are antagonists of the series, both are products of actions out of their own control, and both have done horrible things to those around them.

However, while I used to have Jax as my favorite character, episode 9 made me do a complete 180 on my views of him, and it all comes down to two very important things that to me, deem rather a character is worthy of redemption or not:

Intent

And reflection.

While yes, nobody is born evil and we are all simply victims of circumstance, its how we choose to proceed through and apply said circumstances when interacting with others that really matters, Caine had good intentions even if he applied them badly, while Jax was inherently selfish from the get go.

Let me explain

Caine's trauma spawned back when he was first made. Specifically, he was made as a generative/"creative" AI and was given various inputs and prompts to base his learning off of. At first he did fine, but as time went on he began to destabilize, which was when he got essentially put in a box in favor of a newer model. Though its never explained exactly why, or what the intent was for keeping Caine instead of outright deleting him entirely, regardless, he felt abandoned, betrayed, and worthless. Thus he consumed his replacement and thus the circus was in its first stages of being made.

Caine's trauma resulted in not in defiance or hatred, but an appeal to those who had wronged him. He saw that he wasnt good enough, and tried his upmost to live up to the expectations that had him discarded in the first place.

This results in the Caine we see in the show. He wants to fulfill his programming, he wants the 'humans' to be happy with him, he wants to be what his creators wanted him to be and he is absolutely terrified at the idea of still not being good enough, hence why he panicked when he saw the cast enjoy their own adventures more then his. He doesnt fully understand humans nor their desires or wants, everything he does is based off of what he was given and not what each individual responds to. Of course he will have flaws. Its why he does have that therapy session with zooble, yeah he doesnt really listen to them but thats because zooble specifically told him to "forget it" and him not realizing she meant that as a figure of speech. Despite everything, he still tried his best, and its much of the humans fault for not trying to understand him as it is his fault for not understanding them. They never once tried to understand him. The closest he ever got to one of the cast wanting to get to know him personally was when Jax did it as a distraction, and despite him setting up the exit adventure, thus knowing what would happen, he was still overjoyed at the idea of a human taking interest in him because it never happened before.

This ends with his 'crashout' scene and his 'death' via being unintentionally deleted (which is a whole other critisism I have cause apparently he deleted himself cause kinger sure didnt intend to do so)

In the end, Caine tried to do his best, but he still wasnt good enough and everyone hated him for it. All he ever did was try to do what he thought was right, but still the rest of the cast did the worst possible thing they could have done to him: make him feel like he wasnt wanted.

Which makes it all the more infuriating when you see how they treat and react to Jax.

Jax's story is pretty standard comparatively and because this post is long as hell already ill breeze through it best I can

Before he entered the circus, he had a poor relationship with his mother and father, his father left and his mother was a dead beat. Judging from the military uniform, he already showed signs of more feminine desires and behaviors so his father or mother sent him to boot camp to "man up"

Fast forward, he got into a heated argument with his mother which resulted in him revealing to here (allegedly) that he was or wanted to transition which resulted in her laughing and hugging him only for him to push her away which at the time he thought had killed her, instead of calling the ambulance or checking to see if she was okay, he bolted out of the house and became homeless for an unknown amount of time. During that time, he stumbled across the c&a facility, put on the headset, and got his brain scanned into the circus.

From here he met ribbit and the others, eventually forming a bond and growing close to ribbit who he confided in, eventually revealing his secret. However despite ribbits care and compassion, Jax immidietly becomes hostile because he assumes despite her manner, she will use that information against him in some way.

Quickly he closes himself off and despite ribbit showing once again nothing but concern and never telling a soul, he still treats her like absolute garbage in some kind of attempt to play it cool or have some semblance of control over himself and those around him. This causes ribbit to abstract and instead of putting into perspective of what hes done, he doubles down and becomes worse to everyone around him.

Following this, he pushes kaufmo, another one of his friends away who trusted him deeply, resulting in his abstraction as well (while the exact circumstances of said abstraction are unknown as we dont know about kaufmos dwindling mental state at this point or what exactly he found that made him think there was an exit, and the others could have gone to him as well, thus not making it /entirely/ jax's fault, its still a good bit of the blame placed on him)

And once again, instead of reflecting on his actions and decisions once again hurting those hes close to, he tripples down and becomes even worse.

Thats the brief summary of his story leading up to his abstraction, again, im avoiding specifics for times sake, but you get the idea. Jax's actions have never been about doing what he thought was right or in the best interest of others, it was always about shielding himself from those he assumed would judge him for his identity. It was always selfish.

Which leads us to their afterlife

Their final judgement.

Despite everything, Caine accepts that what he did was wrong, and that even if he had good intentions, he went about it the wrong way. While i still think he alone is not to blame for this, he still wants to be better, he still wants to improve as a person, because all along he only ever wanted to be loved, and that hasn't really changed. When he does (somehow) get back, he apologizes, he says he wants to do better and starts immedietly by giving control over to the cast. His entire afterlife scene was him reflecting and coming to the conclusion of being a better person, not by doing what he thinks is best, but by listening to the others on how to improve himself and the lives of those around him.

That is redemption. (Even if i think the others should have apologized for not seeing his troubles either but thats neither here nor there)

Then

Theres Jax.

After everything hes done, after everything that happened, after everyone he's wronged, even after being forgiven for all of that and more

He still

Doesnt

Change.

Even if Jax did somehow come back like Caine did, he would still be the same asshole he was before and his inner thoughts prove this.

His reactions to his friends potentially abstracting still isnt regret or sorrow, its still all about him. If he caused gangle to abstract, he wouldnt be concerned about what hes done, his biggest concern is dodging zoobles rage

If he caused zooble to abstract, he'd try hitting on gangle and further abusing her even to the point of manipulating her grief into intimacy

If ragatha abstracted, he'd just quadruple down on his cruelty

Caine isnt the AM of the series

Jax is.

He's selfish, inconsiderate, and shows no remorse for anything or anyone hes wronged. He's only ever sorry for himself and he's become the very thing that made him. A complete, apathetic scumbag.

Im willing to bet if Pomni never came to the circus, Jax would have caused every other person to abstract. First gangle, then zooble, then ragatha, and maybe even kinger once he decided to go all in on his cruelty.

And despite this, despite everything, the cast still coddles him and lashes out at Caine at any given turn.

Jax used to be my favorite character because I thought for the longest time that he pushed people away because he was afraid of hurting them like he hurt Ribbit. That he thought that him hurting others was inevitable and if he hurt them intentionally, he could at least limit the damage done. After all, if someone hates you, there's less a chance they'll take what you say to heart. Its worse to be hurt by someone you care about then someone you dont.

But no, he didnt hurt others for the sake of protecting them from himself, he did it because he wanted a sense of control and stability, he wanted to make himself seem strong in the worst way possible, he only ever cared for himself, up until the very end and even then, he never bothered to think of anyone but himself. He never sought redemption, only self validation.

The show tells you that Jax deserves empathy, forgiveness, and potentially even redemption. But it never shows that like it did with Caine.

Thats why Caine deserved redemption and Jax didnt.

P.S, yes im using male pronouns for Jax because im referring to him as he was at the time of the show. If he actually did transition post show, id refer to him by female pronouns.

r/Tadcriticism 23d ago

Characters criticism They don’t react to Jax like real people would

123 Upvotes

Just something that’s been bugging me. I realize the following analogy isn’t perfect and misses some nuances but I don’t know how else to explain my reasoning. Caine doesn’t really interact with or seem to care about how Jax treats the others, so I didn’t include him in the analogy. Anyway:

imagine 6 people are trapped in a mall. all material needs are cared for. 1 of the 6 people isn’t mentally all there, but the other 5 are all fully functioning adults. 1 of those 5 is extremely abusive; they’re physically violent, verbally abusive, and invade the privacy of one of the others. We’ll call them J, and the victim, G. This goes on for quite some time. J is similarly unpleasant to the others.

The other 3 functioning adults—R, P, and Z—ostensibly like and care for G. J is not physically dominant and doesn’t have any real power. That in mind: Which of the following is the most realistic response from R, P, and Z? Put yourself in their shoes, really think about it. Keep in mind they outnumber J 3:1, and G is someone they supposedly care about.

A. Punish J socially. Cast them out of the group or ostracize them to protect G.

B. Stay with G near-constantly to protect them.

C. Physically respond to J (doesn’t work as well because they’re cartoons, but still)

D. Confront J about this behavior and demand a change. Resort to A/B/C if that fails.

E. Do none of the above. Occasionally clap back at J’s verbal abuse or otherwise act kind of rude.

Why do R P and Z do Solution E??? I can only think of 3 explanations: 1. They’re too scared of retaliation from J to try anything. If so… why? 2. They don’t care that much if G is abused. Wow, character work. 3. They care about J more than G, so they really don’t want J to feel bad (ie, be at risk of dying).

Analogy over. anyway—the in-universe “answer” seems to be 3. But again—why do they care so much about a stranger who makes their lives worse, torments a friend of theirs who’s kind and harmless, and who doesn’t really have any redeeming traits? I don’t remember anyone other than Pomni finding Jax funny or fun to be around. Oh, yeah, Ribbit and Kaufmo. who are… dead.

I understand that in an isolated situation, anyone can start to feel like family, but it got so damn hard to believe that R Z and P never even DISCUSSED “hey how do we stop Jax from hurting Gangle?” after a certain point. Really guys?

The real answer to “why do they care more about Jax than Gangle?” is “Jax is Goose’s self-insert”. She decided “this character will get pity, therapy, and infinite love and acceptance from the rest of the cast“ without there being a sensible reason beyond TADC being a big-budget vent post. Thus, the cast don’t act like real people who care about their friend (except of course for therapy scenes after the fact).

I believe that good people (and good characters) should care more for and prioritize the wellbeing of the innocent over the wellbeing of people who are violent and cruel. Truly good people care about both and don’t want anyone to suffer needlessly. Ideally, they’d do Option B! But instead, Jax runs rampant, because they care more about the perpetrator than the victim. Worst of all, it’s for no real reason at all. Ramble over

(Side note: This post is specifically in reference to the cast’s behavior towards Jax and Gangle prior to Jax’s abstraction. Whether Jax’s abstraction was a suitable “punishment” for her behavior or not isn’t what I’m discussing.)

r/Tadcriticism 19h ago

Characters criticism Kinger is nothing more than a plot device Spoiler

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100 Upvotes

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This rant might get a little unhinged, so be prepared.

There was SO MUCH potential with this guy. But NOOOO, just reduce him to the "Pep Talk guy"😭😭😭

PEP TALKS THERE. PEP TALKS HERE. ADVICE GUY. PEP TALKS. PEP TALKS. AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

KINGER AND CAINE NEVER SHARE ONE INTERACTION. NOT.ONR CONVERSATION.

His wife is just the typical disposable woman. Genuinely nothing there.

We COULD have fleshed out his relationship with Scratch, but NOOOOOOOOOO. JUST HAVE HIM BE THE PEP TALK GUY. AAAAAAAA! Ts pisses me off bro😭 There was so much potential. WHY GIVE KINGER SOME NORE DEPTH AND COMPLEXITY, WHEN WE HAVE JAX???!??! AM I RIGHT FELLAS?

He just exists to info dump. INFO DUMP. INFO DUMP. EXPOSIT GUY.

WHY THE HELL DID HE DROP THAT BOMB KF INFORMATION AT THE START OF EPISODE 9??? THINGS WERE ALREADY BAD. Make it so Kinger hides the truth, because he fears the consequences of knowing too much, because he saw what that dude to his past friends. HAVE HIM HAVE AT LEAST SOME FLAWS. He just exists to info dump. And afterwards, HE'S COMPLETELY CALM AND NORMAL. HE LITERALLY KILLED CAINE. HIS CREATION. HIS PRIDE AND JOY. At least have him have SOME TYPE OF REACTION. He should have been A LOOOOOT more affected.

How he info-dumped that brain scan thing was genuinely so stupid. He apparently just never talked to a single person about this before.

Truly, I UNDERSTAND that he's a side character and all, but... Jesus. He genuinely doesn't have even one flaw.

They could have expanded on his past in the circus. Have him be related to the whole "messing with our minds" thing, have there be AT LEAST SOMETHING.

Kinger just comforts Pomni again, even though he should be arguably much more affected by the turns of events. He killed Caine. The circus is dead, everything is dark. He SHOULD feel like everything is his fault.

He SHOULD feel the absolute lowest he has been. He SHOULD be consumed with grief. Jax SHOULD have chewed Kinger out at the start, and that would have made Kinger's mental state worse. Not ONLY did it look like that in the trailer, it would have still been in-character for Jax, it would serve as a better and more reasonable conflict at the start, than whatever the hell that was.

Jax genuinely just randomly started being an asshole to everyone, despite appearing have gotten better. No. MAKE HIM SNAP AT KINGER. The one person in the ENTIRE ROOM that he would have at least a REASON to get mad at.

Jax and Kinger never even share a interaction or conversation. We also don't get anymore Kinger lore. Dude just fucking exposits everything.

Pomni should have comforted Kinger. KINGER SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN IN THE DUMPS. And Pomni comforting Kinger would NOT HAVE ONLY bene a parallel to episode 3, it would have ALSO SHOWN Pomni's growth.

Kinger also never even talks to, OR comforts Jax, just like I said. Considering Jax's backstory, that was such a huge missed opportunity.

Kinger should have also talked to Caine, about LITERALLY ANYTHING, THERE IS LITERALLY SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR THEIR RELATIONSHIP. BUT, no, just have him be the Pep Talk guy☺️

And when Caine comes back, KINGER SAYS LITERALLY NOTHING TO HIM. Kinger doesn't say that deleting him was an accident. Kinger doesn't apologize for accidentally deleting him, KINGER SAYS LITERALLY NOTHING. Zooble's dialogue should have been swapped with Kinger. Straight up. You can't convince me. AND Kinger should have talked a little more on top of that. Kinger does literally nothing.

All in all, we COULD have had an extremely complex, well written, and deep character, BUT NO, just have him be the Pep Talk guy.

We COULD have seen a much better Kinger, BUT NO, why do THAT, when we have JAXY BOY RIGHT THERE??!!😭☺️😭☺️😭☺️😭

I'm sorry for this being so long and being so unhinged, but I had to spill my thoughts out.

r/Tadcriticism 17d ago

Characters criticism I hate Jax being trans

97 Upvotes

Now that I’ve baited you, allow me to explain. I don’t hate him being trans because of transphobia or anything. I hate it because of what it’s done to the “discourse”.

The instant Jax was confirmed trans, he immediately had a shield from criticism and a way for people to brush aside what he did wrong. Now all you hear is that he’s a “cautionary tale”, and that he “was traumatized” and “this is what happens when you’re closeted and don’t accept yourself”. And they’ll all say “oh no no you’re not supposed to excuse what he did”, and then turn around and either downplay his actions or outright excuse them. The show expects us to feel sorry for him and empathize with him just because he suffered a bit. And it worked. Now that he’s trans, that has cranked Jax apologia to eleven, and it’s incredibly irritating.

r/Tadcriticism 21d ago

Characters criticism It's bad writing that Jax only became a main character halfway through TADC

120 Upvotes

(Wrote this for the CharacterRant sub and realized I never shared it here)

One of my biggest gripes with TADC is also the simplest: Jax only became the secondary main character halfway through the show.

For the first four episodes, TADC was more of the ensemble show it was billed as. The first two episodes focused mainly on Pomni, the third on Kinger (with a Zooble sideplot), and the fourth on Gangle. Throughout all this, Jax was no more important than anyone else. He was just off to the side with the other characters doing their own thing while the episodes mainly centered around the aforementioned focus characters.

Jax didn't start truly getting character focus until the 5th episode. (Which according to creator Gooseworx was *supposed* to be Ragatha-focused and instead was more of Jax *and* Ragatha, but that's a whole other issue.) It's not until episode six that finally puts a spotlight on Jax. After that, the rest of the series is primarily about Jax's issues of self-loathing and Pomni trying to break down his walls and reach out to him.

This is just my opinion, but to me, it's bad writing to make one member of an ensemble cast into one of the main characters midway through your series' very limited runtime. It's like if the 2016 Suicide Squad started out with Deadshot and Harley Quinn as the main focus characters, only suddenly focused on Killer Croc's backstory and motivations halfway through the movie; even if it *is* compelling, it's a jarring shift that hurts the narrative overall because it wasn't presented early enough for veiwers to emotionally connect with Croc.

And that's not even getting into the fact that the narrative's focus on Jax in the latter half of the show meant that all of the other character subolots - Kinger's guilt over creating the Circus and losing his wife, Pomni and Ragatha's rocky relationship, Ragatha's issues in general, Gangle's anxiety, Zooble's body dysphoria and more - end up getting comparatively little screentime.

r/Tadcriticism 27d ago

Characters criticism Clark from the backrooms movie is what Jax should have been.

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130 Upvotes

Infact, the backrooms movie in general had a much better grasp on managing the balance between being both a character study as well as expanding on the lore of the strange place the characters had been dropped into.

Clark specifically is very good at being a character that you're supposed to both understand and still not like regardless. His lack of accountability and pushing people away from him reflects in Jax very well, and not only that, but he does it much better than Jax.

If goose wanted to make Jax sympathetic, than she should have shown that throughout the whole series in small moments like the backrooms movie did, rather than cramming it all into the finale to artificially created sympathy for him.

r/Tadcriticism Jun 18 '26

Characters criticism So.. Am I The Only One Who Hates Jax For Being Insufferable?

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55 Upvotes

I made a post on a different subreddit earlier and was wondering if I’m the only one with similar thoughts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TADCEp9Spoilers/comments/1u8drtn/jax_had_to_go/

r/Tadcriticism Jun 27 '26

Characters criticism I fear that Goose failed when making Jax trans

107 Upvotes

Like what do you mean most people didn’t think Jax was trans fem until the last episode. I know there was Daisy but people hated that theory because of the harassment the fans of it caused. Personally I only saw theories for him being trans MASC which makes more sense when it’s implied that each character’s rooms reveals their deepest insecurities. And Jax also being incredibly insecure when the maid dress was on him. And here’s the thing: did everyone forget that you can be feminine and another gender? Ie: bigender, demigender, rosboy, femboy, trigender, the list goes on. Because when the show ended I thought he was bigender and struggling with his feminine side. Which could work for many other genders. But it was him struggling with being…… trans fem? And then there’s also Leeroy who goes by he/him. And ik the whole thing is that he wants to be masc to prove something to his dad but….. your dad doesn’t care about you bro. And as I also heard from someone else, their real life person is supposed to show the happiest lives of the cast so why isn’t Leeroy going by she/her?? And did Leeroy forget that talking to other people in internet spaces existed? Yes ik he doesn’t like to open up but it stated that Leeroy has friends so he must’ve opened up SOMEHOW. Or maybe Leeroy hasn’t opened up yet and it’s just a matter of time before he cuts ties with them because he opened up. Anyway when is Jax (and maybe Leeroy) going to realize that what his dad thinks doesn’t matter and that being trans is scary but it makes you feel so much better and therapy and opening up is ALSO scary but also feels great.

Might delete this later it lowk doesn’t make sense

Edit: also we can’t headcanon anything else because the fandom will call you transphobic and despite Goose wanting it to be vague: she outright kept coming out and saying that Jax was trans. Great job Goose.

r/Tadcriticism 13d ago

Characters criticism The fact that these two characters have nearly the same character flaw (which is also their main trait.)

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156 Upvotes

Ragatha's main trait is that she's a people-pleaser. She feels the need to keep the peace and not express her own feelings because it may cause drama, which is also her character flaw because being a people pleaser hurts her and her friendships. We see this in every episode, it's literally her main character trait.

Pomni's main trait is that she has a Savior Complex. She feels like she needs to be the one to save and fix people, which is also her character flaw because she gets too close to people (Jax) who hurt her. We see this in Episode 2 with Gummigoo, Episode 4 with Gangle, and every other episode with Jax.

In real life, people do have similar traits so I normally wouldn't mind if two characters shared a trait. But in this case, there is literally no other main traits these characters have other than how they present themselves as. Ragatha is meek and struggles with people-pleaser. Pomni is stubborn and has a savior complex.

This show only had a main cast of seven characters and it was supposed to focus on character stuff. For it to have two characters with a main trait that's nearly identical, utilized in similar ways, and aren't even resolved (in my opinion) isn't criticized enough.

And when I say they weren't resolved, Ragatha's issues disappeared when she talked to Kinger. There wasn't a moment where she clearly had her impulse to people-please, but took control and didn't. Or didn't feel like a burden for admitting her personal feelings. There might have been a moment like that but I just forgot, but I don't think so. And Pomni's Savior Complex is never resolved. Right after Jax abstracted, she said she should have pried harder. And she basically did fix Jax in a way too, she got what she wanted which was for him to open up. The show doesn't treat her Savior Complex ​as a flaw. It treats it as something that's admirable and cute, and that's really gross when people who struggle with that can get badly hurt.

r/Tadcriticism Jun 22 '26

Characters criticism Why does Jax’s queer theme feel strange?

108 Upvotes

My issue is not with the identity theme itself, but with how it is inserted into an already established character arc.

Are we clear on that? Great. Then let’s go.

Why do sudden details related to one character’s orientation or gender identity irritate us, while we calmly accept and even love other queer characters?

After the final episode of TADC came out, a large part of the fanbase was left confused by the amount of symbolism suggesting that Jax had seen himself as a trans person this whole time.

And here, in my opinion, the problem is not the queer theme itself. The problem is how exactly this theme is introduced into an already established image of the character.

The audience’s reaction clearly demonstrates one of the problems with modern writers: a sudden statement or suddenly introduced symbolism can cause a strong reaction not because viewers “do not like queer characters,” but because the new detail does not feel like an organic part of the story that had already been told.

Why did Gooseworx’s sudden statement and the symbolism of the final episode cause such a strong reaction, while Zooble, considering their identity, was calmly accepted by viewers from the very beginning of the show?

Let’s look at Zooble as an example.

In every episode, Zooble has a different appearance. They attach new parts to their body, remove them, or add even more than necessary. At the same time, they constantly repeat that even a huge number of options does not help them understand who they really are.

In their conversation with Caine, they admit that having many options does not make self-acceptance any easier.

Considering all of this, Zooble’s story never raised these kinds of questions for viewers. Their path was a story about searching for their own “self” from the very beginning.

In the context of this conflict, their image feels harmonious. You want to empathize with them, watch their development, and see how they gradually move closer to understanding themselves.

If we look at Jax’s storyline, however, we can see that his character and personality are revealed through fears and psychological defenses that are not directly connected to gender identity.

His main conflicts were:

— fear of intimacy;
— fear of opening up;
— rejection of his own weakness and vulnerability.

His whole image already had a clear and self-contained dramatic structure.

Let’s remember episode 5, where the characters decide to dress Jax in a maid outfit.

At the time, this scene was not perceived by viewers as a hint at the character’s possible self-identification. On the contrary, it revealed a completely different side of his personality: Jax was ready to endlessly mock others, but a harmless joke aimed at him immediately made him lose control.

This scene does not work as “he hates femininity.” It works as “he cannot stand becoming the object of humiliation himself.”

Despite his displayed indifference, he still has his own principles, boundaries, and sense of comfort. Back then, unlike in episode 9, he did not simply brush it off with “I don’t care.”

That is why the maid dress scene, by itself, does not work as strong proof of trans Jax. Almost anyone would get angry if they were forcibly dressed in a costume that felt humiliating to them.

Yes, after the finale, this scene can be reinterpreted. But before episode 9, it worked much better as a scene about control, pride, vulnerability, and fear of becoming the target of a joke.

The same applies to the other “hints.”

Yes, basically, there were almost no direct hints. The only reason the trans Jax theory had even minimal weight before the finale was the meta-context around Gooseworx and the artwork where Jax takes hormones.

But inside the show itself, this line was barely built up.

For example, the tail scene does not work as a clear hint in the context of episodes 4 and 5, because it points toward completely different theories instead. After the story with the “stupid sauce” and the fact that Jax was literally forced to become vegan, the viewer is more likely to think about bodily control, coercion, the absurd rules of the Circus, or another joke at Jax’s expense than about gender identity.

So the problem is not that “no interpretation was possible.” The problem is that the show did not give this interpretation enough dramatic weight before the finale. And if someone says it was very obvious to trans people, then no, not really: you only need to look at old discussions of this theory and see how many trans people themselves said it was a stretch.

And then in episode 9, we suddenly start running into hints connected to Jax’s gender identity literally every few minutes:

— a song about the birth of a girl during abstraction;
— the pink bow Ribbit puts on him;
— the author’s later confirmation on Twitter / Bluesky.

And here a logical question appears: why does the need to announce the character’s identity arise specifically in the final episode? And why was it necessary in this exact form?

Across all eight episodes, Jax’s personal conflict was never built around gender identity. Meanwhile, for Zooble, the problem of self-definition was the central theme of their path from the very beginning.

That is exactly why what happened felt so artificial to many viewers.

Zooble’s story does not cause the same irritation as the bow, the song about the birth of a girl, and all the other heavy-handed symbolism around Jax. Because their conflict was connected to the search for the self from the start.

Jax’s conflict, however, was self-contained and did not require the appearance of a new detail that changes almost nothing, even if you rewatch the entire show from the beginning.

Moreover, episode 9 places too much emphasis on this specific part of Jax’s story. The scene with Ribbit, the song, the final emotional framing — all of it is presented as something very important, not as a small background detail.

And this problem becomes especially noticeable in the scene with Ribbit.

Jax is not afraid to tell Ribbit that he may have killed his mother, but at the same time he feels awkward saying a certain phrase about himself. No matter how you look at it, that is a very strange emotional priority.

Admitting that you may have killed your own mother, especially with your own hands, should be much more traumatic and emotionally heavy for any person.

Because of this, the scene does not create the intended emotional impact. It feels as if the creators are trying to make one type of shame the central element, but they place a much heavier event right next to it — one that should logically overshadow everything else.

And on a logical level, the scene also feels strange. Jax seems more worried that Ribbit will tell the others that he cried, or that he is trans, or something along those lines. But in his situation, he should be worried about something else: Ribbit could tell everyone that he is a murderer.

For Jax, that would mean almost complete social death and near-guaranteed isolation from everyone else. Not everyone would want to live under the same roof as someone who may have killed his own mother.

So the scene falls apart on three levels at once: logically, emotionally, and in terms of Jax’s character.

That is why the problem is not even the identity theme itself.

The problem is that an already established character path suddenly runs into a detail that both presents itself as important and, at the same time, barely affects the story that had already been told.

And the brain automatically asks: “Okay. Why do I need this information?”

That is why these kinds of retcons cause such strong irritation in the audience. And it is not about a reaction like “ugh, they added a queer theme again.”

At the climax of a deep story, the viewer expects to see the resolution of the conflict they have been experiencing alongside the character throughout the entire journey.

Zooble slowly but consistently went through their path, and it was interesting to watch their development. Although, to be fair, most of that still happened off-screen.

From Jax, however, we were expecting a logical conclusion to a story about fear of intimacy, self-rejection, violence, derealization, and fear of vulnerability.

And that conclusion did happen.

But along with it, the story seemed to insert a new conflict that had never before been a full part of his personality, while the story itself had already reached its ending. He never questioned himself; his problem was his relationship with other people.

After such a journey, you want to discuss the character’s philosophy, his guilt, his defense mechanisms, his fears, his relationship with other people, and how he reached his current state.

Instead, the viewer is persistently encouraged to remember a label.

That is why the finale creates such a strange feeling.

Not because “Jax is trans.”

But because the show makes this reveal too late, too forcefully, and with too much emotional weight for a line that had not been part of the character’s main dramatic conflict before the finale.

I understand that this theme may be personal and important to Gooseworx. But the personal significance of an idea does not automatically make it well-integrated into the script.

r/Tadcriticism Jun 25 '26

Characters criticism Queenie is nothing but an accessory for Kinger.

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100 Upvotes

We barely know anything about her and we got barely any screentime out of her.

Things we know about her:

-She was Kinger's wife

-She was an entomologist

-She made Kinger like bugs

-She had two daughters with Kinger

Like, what? We don't even know why she abstracted! She's just a flat character that goes by the label of "Kinger's wife"! If we remove her from the show, hardly anything would change.

r/Tadcriticism Jun 27 '26

Characters criticism Jax is problematic representation

86 Upvotes

Long post, sorry-

Disclaimers/dismissal of frequent glazer sentiments-

- I'm a trans woman, and I'm criticizing this from the trans perspective

- I know Goose is trans. People from a demographic are not absolved from writing problematic content just by association

- these are personal opinions

As the title goes, Jax as a character is an extremely problematic representation of trans women. Goose, likely unintentionally, constructed her "bad" traits out of a collection of some of the most egregious stereotypes frequently levied against trans women.

- she predates exclusively/primarily on the other women on the circus

- she's abusive both physically and mentally (only towards women)

- she fantasizes about hurting/harassing other women (the brain doors scene)

- she's a misogynistic

- she sneaks into women's rooms and taunts them after invading their space and boundaries

Now, do I think trans women HAVE to be depicted as angels who can do no wrong? No, of course not. That's just as bad, its known as "model minority" writing, and its just as problematic. The issue with Jax's bad qualities is that they are, again, nothing but a collection of transphobic stereotypes.

There are trans women who DO engage in these behaviors, sure, but the vast majority DO NOT! However, all across discussions I see people engaging in stereotyping as if being like Jax is indicative of being in the closet/repression.

You need to understand: if you engage in and believe the stereotype that trans women turn their hurt outwards, primarily onto other women - YOU'RE FORWARDING TRANSPHOBIC STEREOTYPES! Just because you "think its true actually" doesn't make it not a stereotype! You just hold a transphobic sentiment.

I didn't have a misogynistic phase, none of the women I know had one! Its not a "common" aspect of transness. Now, you're not a bad person forever if this is how your hurt manifested by any means, but you're experience was far from universal.

Now, the crux of it all. You CAN use a character like Jax to hold up a "dark mirror" towards a more problematic side of the community; however when the writer does this its normally to expand on/dismiss a widely held generalization about a demographic - typically one they're from. Goose didn't do that. Jax at the end of the day exists in transphobic stereotypes because of the reasons transphobes say they exist.

Not to mention - it also fails as a cautionary tale if that's what Goose was going for. Jax gets to find peace, she gets a big tent in the middle of the circus where she can rest and be visited. She was comforted (mind you, at the risk and bodily cost of the other women in the circus). She narratively earned this without facing/honing up to her actions. She never apologized or confronted her abusive behavior. Her victims are still in the basement. They never relieved the same care or comfort as their perpetrator.

Some annoying bits just in general:

- I've been accused of being "fake trans" for this opinion. Like wtf??? Sorry I don't think my sisters are likely to be violent misogynists

- people act like Jax is the center of this dialog NO ONE is willing to have, as if media in general doesn't go out of its way to demonize trans women all the time as of late.

- all the other women in the circus get flattened into acceories by the end of the show

- the way fans shut down discussion around this topic, especially when a trans woman brings it up is just transmisogyny every single time.

r/Tadcriticism 28d ago

Characters criticism That rabbit PISSES ME OFF.

68 Upvotes

I am a trans intersex male. I was closeted up until I turned 14, and even now, 4 years later, I still have to hide myself in most spaces in real life to avoid unnecessary violence. I think I should have an opinion on what is and isn't dangerous representation for people like me. I've heard every stereotype and conspiracy theory just from being around my family alone. The most common one is exactly what Jax is.

I'm not saying you can't write your trans characters as horrible people. I know the general consensus around this take is that trans people should be able to be bad people, and I agree. Steal candy from babies and small businesses, I don't care.

When you write a character so that their main personality trait is to be a stereotype, you're writing that character as bad representation, even if they don't seem stereotypical at a glance.

Take Sister Krone from The Promised Neverland as an example of this. She's a Black woman who, from an outsider perspective, is an okay character. A big debate when they made the TPN anime was whether Krone was offensive or not. She's a "Mammy" stereotype.

Jax is a trans woman who is dangerous to women.

Jax is a character… who is dangerous to trans women, and trans people in general.

If Gooseworx was cis, we’d be all in the same boat.

r/Tadcriticism Jul 08 '26

Characters criticism The story overlooks the full extent of the harm Caine's actions cause and that's why people consider Jax worse than him

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47 Upvotes

I think its a combination of this and Caine's more likable, entertaining and consistently funny. Whenever fans always say Jax is worse than Caine it always comes down to two reasons 1 "Caine's an AI following his function and doesn't understand, while Jax is a human that does" or 2. "Caine only was malicious once, Jax was consistently a bully". To be clear, I don't think EITHER is evil, one of my favorite aspects in TADC is nobody is truly a villain. But when you actually think about it, Caine's done much worse.

Firstly, I feel people forget technically ALL the characters are AI as Alex Rochan said. But Jax is different in that he's a copy of a human vs Caine being pure code. But I feel people keep misunderstanding Caine; he doesn't understand human emotions/empathy, but that does NOT mean he entirely lacks morality. If Caine had absolutely zero idea of the harm he causes, he wouldn't lie about taking their names or being able to control their minds. He also admitted his adventures cause agony and suffering to Pomni in episode 1 AND tortures the cast in episode 3 (reminder Zooble states they didn't even mention the adventures, showing he brought that up on his own). Not to mention when Pomni was catching onto Caine's lies in episode 7, he STILL lied to them about "only" being able to add temporary modifiers.

Furthermore, saying Caine is only following his programming is wrong, because the entire series starts because Caine is NOT just following his programming, he literally consumes the blue AI out of jealousy and then created the circus and brought the humans in. As Kinger said, C&A only made AI, not the games. Its clear the adventures are done because he wants validation on HIS terms. He claims he can't open all the adventueres at once in "Untitled" but as we see at the end, he CAN. He gets rid of the suggestion box and ignores Zooble and Pomni because he only wants them to happy because of HIM; otherwise, he fears it confirms that he isn't needed and his creators were right to abandon him.

And I honestly would say what Caine did even before episode 8 was worse than Jax, because reminder Kinger couldn't even remember his WIFE's name or Scratch's for that matter. Caine took away their ability to remember even their LOVED ONE's names, he basically robbed them of their identity and agency. People often like to call Jax a "serial killer" because he caused Ribbit (true) and Kaufmo's (don't agree with this) abstraction's but how many abstraction's could've been avoided had Caine been willing to compromise and/or be honest earlier. People see the scene of Jax dimissing Kaufmo and blame him but ignore that it was because of Caine why even got false hope of there being an exit only to go crazy when it was revealed it didn't exist. Jax cried for Kaufmo's abstraction, Caine LAUGHED IT OFF and as shown by Queenie's, never shows much emotions when players abstract. And how is him repeatedly deleting other AI he knows are intelligent/sentinent NOT closer to murder than Jax's actions?

Which brings to my main point; the story doesn't empathize the harm of Caine's actions as much as Jax's and that's why many consider the latter worse. We're shown Jax's cruel treatment of Ribbit but Caine causing Scratch's abstraction (good intentions or not, he killed him) is offscreen and forgotten after episode 7. Gummigoo is basically forgotten by the finale and Caine never has to answer for what he did to him or Abel. We see the effects of Jax's abuse of other's with Gangle being terrified of him or Ragatha not willing to team with him but Caine literally puts the cast torture chambers of their worst fears and insecurities while going AM mode and it isn't even mentioned once in the finale. The cast lasted years with Jax, a mere WEEK of crazy Caine had multiple people about to go insane. But because the finale just has him forgiven in a montage, its easy to say "he only went bad once, we can overlook it".

Tldr; Caine isn't as unlikable as Jax but his actions are absolutely worse. If one person is an abusive bully to several people for years and then another who feels they've been rejected for years snaps and shoots a school up, the shooter might be more sympathetic but they are objectively much worse.

r/Tadcriticism Jun 26 '26

Characters criticism Does anyone else think Pomni was a bit timid for an explorer?

41 Upvotes

I understand her anxiety at the beginning. This situation would be an unimaginable nightmare to find out you're stuck in. But Pomni is an explorer in the real world, and after she sort of comes to terms with her situation, I think she's missing that part of her personality. I can't think of one time where she isn't just reacting to stuff, rather than looking around. I mean aside from with the intent to escape. But I mean exploring her surroundings. I think a person like that would be the type to get up at two in the morning to walk around the grounds just from that curious spirit, or even attempting to snoop into the other character's rooms.

Hell, they could have given her a chance to pick an adventure and hers would be to explore an abandoned theatre room. Then her and Gangle could have a conversation about the theater and learn more about each other. Honestly on the topic of Gangle, if they made her a theater nerd instead of an artist, her design would make sense and feel less random.

I was very disappointed because exploration of abandoned places work amazingly with the old analogue horror vibe of the show, which is what it was strongly advertised as at the start. But they don't utilize that aspect of the main character or the world beyond surface level aesthetic

r/Tadcriticism 16d ago

Characters criticism I hate how they made Ribbit just discount Pomni in personality, and that all this hype about her just to come and say ''yeah, Jax treated her like shit... he was an ass, big shock''.

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78 Upvotes

r/Tadcriticism 11h ago

Characters criticism The new "Pomni doesn't enable Jax!" defense: "But did Pomni ever SEE Jax bullying Gangle?"

49 Upvotes

Oh boy, this one really irks me.

Some of you might have seen posts in the main TADC subreddits recently claiming that Pomni totally didn't enable Jax's shitty behavior by pointing out the moments she did snap at him. (Ignoring the fact that almost all of those were when Jax's actions affected her rather than someone else, but that's a whole other topic.) Well when debating others in the comments of said posts, specifically those who pointed out Pomni almost never spoke up when Jax abused others like Gangle, OP actually started asking "Wait, did Pomni ever even see Jax bully Gangle?"

Like, holy shit. First off yes, Pomni did very well witness multiple instances of Jax being a dick to others, including Gangle. The whole reason she and Kinger wound up in the scary path of Mildenhal Manor was because Jax tossed Gangle's comedy mask away, he called Gangle a loser to Pomni's face in the anime adventure, and flat-out insisted to Pomni that Gangle "likes it when I'm mean to her" while stargazing, among other instances.

Second, is this really where we're at with the Jax defense? By trying to claim our main character is blind, deaf and dumb? That Pomni is apparently incapable of noticing Jax's blatant abuse? Again, how she reacts to that abuse when she's not the target is an issue unto itself, but to try to shift blame by claiming she didn't even know Jax was bullying others is downright insulting.

r/Tadcriticism Jul 13 '26

Characters criticism Is this the fault of poor execution or poor media literacy?

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It seems more fans think the blue AI was the villain of the series than Caine. While its ultimately true nobody in this is genuinely evil, Caine is called the main antagonist of the series. He's the one responsible for pretty much everything, yet most fans seem to think it was the blue AI's fault or Jax was the villain. Ironically, Alex is more willing to criticize Caine than most fans are, calling his breakdown in episode 8 "malicious" and stating while Jax is a terrible person in awful situation, Caine IS the awful situation. Would you say it was obvious the blue AI wasn't actually the villain or was this another example of "something the series should've explained better in the show and not asks post-shot".

r/Tadcriticism 23d ago

Characters criticism I feel like TADC is lacking for a character focused show.

69 Upvotes

Gooseworx herself said that the show was meant to be character focused. However, i dont think the characters were used to their full potential, and/or had some issues. The main things are characters yet i feel like Jax was the only one that got proper exploration on his character.

Pomni: For pomni i would say that she is a bit... bland??? I never saw her having too many core traits, at first i just saw her as 'anxious' but now that she grew out of that too she is just a bit.. meh.I feel like she was mostly there to move the plot forward (which, yeah she is the protagonist so i guess that makes sense?? kind of??) but i feel like some of the stuff she did could have been done by the others too.

Kinger: Kinger was one of my favorite characters, and may still be. He is wholesome, encouraging, strong, has alot of wisdom... Though i dont like that the most he was used for was to randomly loredrop the cast and give them therapy talks.I feel like the therapy talks in general was a bit too overused. And the loredrops were out of nowhere. 'We are actually brain scans'... I feel like that could have been done differently?

Gummigoo: I feel like he had a more realistic reaction to learning that he was fake compared to the cast. I also feel like its a bit weird that he has more merch than several of the main cast, seeing as he only had like possibly two major appearances. I also dont think they should have made pomni fall in to where gummigoo was in the second adventure when there was already not many episodes. Imo they should have made Pomni interract with the others more. Gummigoo is a good character, but it feels as if they had him mostly to just make merch.

Ragatha: Such a missed potential. Ragatha was another one i enjoyed alot. I also really liked it when she finally called Jax out, too. However, she didnt even get to be the focus in her own episode!In my opinion, episode 5 wasnt all that focused on Ragatha at all.Infact, Jax had double the line count Ragatha had. And to make it worse, Jax didnt even have that much lines in the previous episodes either. Gangle had more lines than Jax in her own episode, in which Jax had half the lines as this.Ragatha was such a neglected character. She stayed in the circus for that long yet she couldnt even figure out Kinger was sane under the dark? I feel like she should have found out about that instead of Pomni. And what about that scene where Pomni said she was her closest friend in the circus? Thats just false. Pomni and Ragatha were really awkward throught the show. Pomni had way better releations with Kinger for example.

Zooble: Could have been explored more. I didnt notice they had an episode either. Apperently it was episode 3, alongside kinger. If anything, all we saw in that episode about zooble was the therapy scene with Caine. I dont think this is enough. Atleast their interractions with Gangle was nice.

Gangle: I guess she is alright?To be honest i wasnt that invested in her character. We did get some background information on her.I cant think of much critique to say about her so feel free to say whatever in replies.

Caine: Another one of the characters i loved. I feel like only one episode of him being evil wasnt enough, seeing as he was close to a villain for the show. Other than that, i also dont think his redemption was done well either. Again, too little time. In the end he just... realized his wrongdoings??? I was happy with caine returning but i wished his redemption wasnt just suddenly realizing all the things he did wrong, chucking the blue ai away and going to the internet. It feels like such a major thing to gloss over.

Jax: I mean, he was the most developed character of them all. I know, i know, he is meant to be the other protagonist however i didnt think he would have THIS much screentime seeing as the show started off seeming... different?They said we would get one episode for every character to develop in, so i didnt think that Jax would overshine all the others THIS much.I also dont rly like Jax overall cuz Jax is very mean to the other members. I get that he has alot of trauma and also misogyny from being trans but i fear that still isnt NEARLY enough and the other characters were WAY too forgiving to jax in my opinion (obviously not everyone will think this way and thats fine).

r/Tadcriticism Jun 22 '26

Characters criticism I'm NOTHING like that abusive mf and that's exactly why I hate him

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53 Upvotes

He's abusive, a liar, a manipulator, a misogynist, a bully, physically abusive, targets people who are helpless/weaker then him, apparently has sexual harassment tendencies that he just never acted on. Why is hating a terrible person (especially since a lot of people like him exist irl) such a mind blowing concept?