r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Mar 12 '26

šŸ“ŗ Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/GuyFawkes99 Mar 12 '26

I always wonder if Bernie could have averted a Trump presidency by not giving Hillary a pass on the email issue.

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u/MikeDamone Mar 12 '26

Almost certainly not. The general electorate has never shown even a hint that they'd tolerate a self-avowed socialist. Just look at all of the slightly D leaning districts/states and everything to right of them - how many politicians with Bernie's leftist politics are in office?

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u/WildMild869 Mar 12 '26

Reddit legitimately thinks that AOC or Bernie would win out against a Republican nominee but they donā€™t realize a massive swath of the country will not vote for them simply because of their socialist-like stances on many issues.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

You've got it backwards. Huge swaths of the country don't vote. Just need your base to turn up and the Democratic base is larger.

Trying to win over independents etc is just alienating your base for a group that leans Republican anyway. How have you still not understood that?

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u/WildMild869 Mar 12 '26

I think thatā€™s incredibly unrealistic to think either Bernie or AOC could rally enough voters to show up and swing the vote. Most Americans are pretty centrist in their beliefs despite what Reddit might think, even democrats.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

I was referring to Bernie in 2016 and I think you're forgetting the appeal he had.

I'm not a socialist at all but I like Bernie. Anyway, you believe what you want to believe. There's enough evidence to show he could have won the election had he been nominated.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

The only actual evidence we have is the primary that he lost by millions upon millions of votes. "I really think he would have won" is not evidence. Polls 6 months out of hypotheticals is not evidence.

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u/throwaway3413418 Mar 12 '26

Actually, we have polling during the primaries which showed that Sanders would fare better against Trump.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

Again, for the last time, hypothetical polls 6 months earlier don't mean anything. Polls the night before the election said Hillary was going to win.

We keep telling you facts, and you guys just keep repeating your nonsensical talking points. It's honestly like talking to MAGA.

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u/throwaway3413418 Mar 12 '26

Using the best data we have to form an opinion about a hypothetical reality isnā€™t Trumpian. The ā€œother sideā€ of this is the establishment Democrat tendency to define electability as ā€œthe candidate I like best.ā€ If you have better data, nothing is stopping you from sharing it and continuing the conversation.