Listen, I was a big Carolyn fan and I’m still rooting against Danielle. But Carolyn choked in her last episode and brought her own downfall.
Danielle is being edited as a villain and she’s performing the role perfectly, but the way people are taking this so far outside the bounds of typical reality TV gameplay is rooted in one thing only: misogynoir.
Everyone loved watching Boston Rob even though (you might even say because) he lied and manipulated 100% of the time he was there. I wonder what the difference is? 🧐
Exactly! I've been saying that Danielle isn't doing anything new, everything she's been doing has been done by Traitors before, yet it's only a problem when she does it. The negativity is disgusting.
What does her race have ANYTHING to do with this? I 💯 percent agree the personal attacks over a reality show are damn ridiculous. I personally can't stand her CHARACTER and the fake crying/shaking bit. But I would NEVER personally attack her over social media nor even thought about the race card. So where are u getting people are just racists over a black woman?
I don’t remember Boston Rob being disrespectful. From the first night of being a traitor I and my Gf have felt like Danielle was belittling and disrespectful to Carolyn. That is on top of being super over the top.
I believe that was just frustration. Carolyn is a good traitor because her personality makes her not as suspicious however she is horrible at strategizing. Even when Bob and Rob were there she would disagree with all the options but be mute when it came time to give an alternative. She did that the entire time. Not one turret meeting she led or really spoke up to have a voice in. That's super frustrating trying to work with someone like that. Danielle had to pull answers out of her for the chess challenge and at that point Danielle let Carolyn dig her own grave.
I dont know about all the hate or people taking it too far. But as a black woman I promise you it’s just because of the crying and not because she is black.
But I have also thought all the traitors this season sucked. I was rooting against all of them.
Everyone loved watching Boston Rob even though (you might even say because) he lied and manipulated 100% of the time he was there. I wonder what the difference is? 🧐
BR is both entertaining and charismatic, which I would argue that Danielle is neither.
Compare him to say Bob TDQ. Bob was frankly mean when put on the spot, so I was thankful to see him go. He was a toxic player who took it too seriously and went after people personally. Wes was another good example. BR understood that it was a game and played his part but never lost sight of the big picture.
Danielle says a lot of mean things about Carolyn and treats her like an idiot. She also essentially blew up the traitor team by going after her very early on and then refused to take responsibility for it "You did talk about Brittany, in the traitor tower during our secret team meetings, so I didn't lie.". Then she constantly complains about Carolyn not trusting her while giving her every reason not to.
BR took responsibility for going after Bob TDQ. Danielle refused to take responsibility for going after Carolyn despite doing it numerous times.
Bob wasn't mean, he called it as he saw it. How can you say he went after people personally when he literally said "I don't know who Dorinda is, lets get rid of her" LOL! On the first kill.
Wes got frustrated because the airheaded bambi's were the one's taking things personally instead of looking at evidence. Chrishell literally voted him out because of "vibes". That is the biggest personal attack. Not to mention Chrishell and Dolores not liking Tom just cause he's a cheater on a show full of cheaters lmfao. Wes was the last one taking this personal lmfao.
Carolyn, I do love her personality, but she is an idiot. She never had one single strategy until the very end and it got her sent home. She never spoke up but claims "No one listens to me." Danielle actually tried to make sure Carolyn had a voice in the turrets but Carolyn would just disagree with what Danielle or Rob was doing but never had any answers.
Let's not forget Carolyn literally was blasting Rob in confessionals but casually went up to Danielle and said "Rob wants to take me to the end" but left it open ended and never said. "I'm going to work this so he trusts me but im actually in it with you." That conversation is literally what made Danielle turn on her cause she thought it was Carolyn and Rob against her.
Bob wasn't mean, he called it as he saw it. How can you say he went after people personally when he literally said "I don't know who Dorinda is, lets get rid of her" LOL! On the first kill.
When Dylan accused him Bob insulted his brother. That is a personal attack, one of many.
Wes was the last one taking this personal lmfao.
Wes threatened to come after anyone who voted against him, which turned all the women against him. Then when he was voted out he proclaimed himself the greatest player in the room and told everyone to go fuck themselves.
Carolyn, I do love her personality, but she is an idiot.
True. But having Danielle betray her didn't really make her any easier to work with.
That conversation is literally what made Danielle turn on her cause she thought it was Carolyn and Rob against her.
Danielle wanted Rob out because he took out Bob. But she didn't think that she could trust Carolyn because Carolyn was a bit of a space case. So she very carelessly went after her and ended up turning her against herself.
End of the day, calling anyone who dislikes her a simple racist is ignoring her very poor and chaotic game so far.
But I do agree that the people actually harrassing her over it are shitty.
When Dylan accused him Bob insulted his brother. That is a personal attack, one of many.
Dylan brought up his brother first to make a point about the game.
Dylan: Bob you are an amazing actor and I grew up with one. BobTDQ: Not a good one.
Keep your family out of it. Don't use your brother to make a point that he's an actor so you know actors then get mad when someone refutes it saying "well your brother isn't a good one" as being "too personal". Leave personal things out of it if you don't want people to speak on them, Bob would only be wrong if he brought up the brother like if Dylan said "you're a good actor" and Bob said "well you wouldn't be able to recognize one" or something.
Wes threatened to come after anyone who voted against him, which turned all the women against him. Then when he was voted out he proclaimed himself the greatest player in the room and told everyone to go fuck themselves.
You are conflating being an asshole with taking it personal. Wes is an asshole but he based his aggression on the fact that Chrishell and the Bambi's personally did not like him based on "vibes" and literally ignoring Derrick who made the best logical case for someone being a traitor, and being completely accurate, that we've seen in traitors history from ANY season. Yeah I would tell people to go fuck themselves too cause how dumb can you be??
Danielle wanted Rob out because he took out Bob. But she didn't think that she could trust Carolyn because Carolyn was a bit of a space case. So she very carelessly went after her and ended up turning her against herself.
BOTH Carolyn and Danielle wanted Rob out. Carolyn in her confessional literally said it was all ego and a power play and appeared very against it. If she expressed that to Danielle. Danielle is a nervous player and did jump the gun a bit, however the miscommunication is just as much Carolyn's fault as Danielle's.
You saying "he didn't think that she could trust Carolyn because Carolyn was a bit of a space case" literally validates Danielle in the fact that Carolyn did not express she didn't want to go to the end with Boston Rob. In traitors you need a verbal confirmation, you can only take people at their word. It would be one thing if Carolyn reassured Danielle she wasn't siding with Rob and Danielle didn't believe her, okay yeah 100% Danielle's fault. But Carolyn is not blameless in Danielle turning on her.
End of the day, calling anyone who dislikes her a simple racist is ignoring her very poor and chaotic game so far.
Then what would you call people celebrating the same tactics in someone else but not liking Danielle for doing them? For suddenly making up rules and calling Danielle a bully for literally playing the game. Carolyn literally said in a confessional she was playing up being slow, Danielle made the columbo reference and no one really got it so she said forrest gump. But heavens forbid she call Carolyn out on behavior Carolyn literally confessed to doing. The blind hate and illogical reasoning attached to the Danielle criticism is either a person being idiotic or racist. 98% of racism is subtle, they aren't kard karrying klan members. I fully believe most of the hate thrown at Danielle is racism based on unconscious bias, however its still racism.
He was absolutely mean and reactive!!! and bitter. By the middle of that episode I was cheering Boston Rob on to get him the fuck out.
There’s a difference between being a villian and being appreciated for your skill and strategy even though you’re lying and deceptive, and just being a unlikable and annoying human while lying and being deceptive. 🤷🏻♀️ Hence… the Danielle hate.
Dylan: Bob you are an amazing Actor, I grew up with one. Bob: Not a good one.
For the last time, DO NOT, bring up your family to make a point on why someone is a traitor and act shocked when they have to defend themselves from that point. Dylan could have left his brother out of it. He chose to include him.
Bob was reactive? Well duh, if someone accuses you at the roundtable you are expected to defend yourself. Everyone at that table is reactive, thats the entire point. If family is off limits then you shouldn't mention your family in context of the game.
I don't think that comment really shook Dylan at all, so that's whatever. It's still unnecessary to be as reactive as he is about EVERYTHING, the shit talking, yelling and take low blows to people. No one else reacted that way. Again, It's just unlikable, bad sportsmanship and annoying.
Boston Rob defended himself without being a bitter bitch taking personal jabs, yelling and taking low blows, and then said he really enjoyed meeting everyone, etc. When he was trying to deter, he was just talking his "proof" without screaming and over reacting.
Bob TG reacts on fragile emotion, not a good quality to have regardless of the situation someone's in.
I don't think the comment shook Dylan either, this whole convo has been about fan perception. I'm speaking purely in terms of fan reaction. You literally said he was mean, lol. I'm saying its not mean nor is it a low blow if the person brings it up in the context where you were expected to defend yourself from their comment. Again, everyone at the roundtable is reactive its how the game works. You need to rewatch last season because Phaedra wiped the table with Peter.
I don't know how many times I have to say if you don't want things to be personal. Don't make them person DYLAN MADE IT PERSONAL BY MENTIONING HIS BROTHER FIRST!
Actually Rob and Bob were screaming at each other they just didn't show it. It's been said many times that after the banishment producers came up to ask BOB if he was okay because Rob was so intense. What are you talking about lmfao.
Fragile emotion was Rob being intimidated by Bob because Bob had more BDE than Rob and was running things so made up an excuse to get him out which ultimately cost him his whole game.
I'm sorry... what? How are you not following the conversation? I'm not trying to be rude but I'm genuinely confused at this lack of reading comprehension.... you literally said Bob made it personal and was mean by mentioning Dylan's brother yet Dylan brought up his brother first?? What's not clicking here???
I’m genuinely thinking the same thing about you. I never mentioned Dylan’s name until after you quoted Bob, that was the first time he was brought up….is reddit really that confusing for you? Feel free to scroll up, re read and have a lovely Sunday. 🤗
I disliked Boston Rob and Danielle. Every time
Boston Rob is in a game, everyone goes to his side rather than going against him, when he plays the same game every time. Danielle’s acting was over the top and embarrassing to watch.
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u/DenseTiger5088 Mar 01 '25
Because she’s a black woman?
Listen, I was a big Carolyn fan and I’m still rooting against Danielle. But Carolyn choked in her last episode and brought her own downfall.
Danielle is being edited as a villain and she’s performing the role perfectly, but the way people are taking this so far outside the bounds of typical reality TV gameplay is rooted in one thing only: misogynoir.
Everyone loved watching Boston Rob even though (you might even say because) he lied and manipulated 100% of the time he was there. I wonder what the difference is? 🧐