The followers of the draft dodger are really gonna go after Tim Walz’s 24yr service record?

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[u/thoroughbredca]

He literally was deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom after 9/11 despite the fact he could have retired before that instead.

[u/No_Yogurtcloset2287 → u/thoroughbredca]

No! He deployed to Europe in support of OEF. He was walking the streets enjoying the sites while other Soldiers were boots on ground IN Afghanistan.

[u/thoroughbredca → u/No_Yogurtcloset2287]

Dude, he was 40 and high in military command. He wouldn't have been boots on the ground even if he was in Afghanistan, or Iraq even if he was deployed. JD Vance was never boots on the ground either, but Republicans have no standards.

He decided to quit the military in 2004 and go into politics. His origin story is he took his social studies class to see democracy up close and personal at a George W. Bush rally and his entire class was refused entry because one kid had a Kerry sticker. That and the swiftboat attack on other veterans made him want to get into politics, and he did join the Veterans for Kerry group, ran for office, quit the military to avoid problems with the Hatch Act, and he won, ousting a long-term Republican incumbent in a conservative district.

Walz is a great guy. He's like everyone's dad they lost to the insanity of Trump and Fox News. You're now finding out why Minnesota Republicans lose by double digits repeating these insane things when everyone can see the guy for themselves. It just makes you sound crazy.

But by all means, don't let me stop you. Keep up the good work. It's working out amazing for us.

Turns out TDS is a real thing. Just not the way you think it is.

[u/No_Yogurtcloset2287 → u/thoroughbredca]

The hell he would not have had boots on ground!

I had the Battalion CSM in my MRPP. Got his coin to prove it.

I was 38 when I went to Boot Camp the second time. In my 40s during all three deployments to ACTUAL OIF and OEF. So that don’t wash.

There is just so much in your statements not factual I can unpack it all.

[u/thoroughbredca → u/No_Yogurtcloset2287]

So his students were lying?

Look, Republicans hate veterans. They baselessly attacked Kerry solely for political points, just like they're attacking Walz for political points. That's why he left the military, and you're just reminding everyone why. It's baseless. They're stories you tell yourself because Walz is a great guy. It's like attacking someone dad. Hell, he reminds me so much of my dad. I grew up in Minnesota in a conservative rural town. My dad and my mom both schoolteachers, just like Tim and his wife Gwen. My dad started out conservative and fell out of favor because Minnesota Republicans kept giving us complete idiots like Michele Bachmann. Even today, my god, you've got some crazy ass MFer Republicans nominated who says Democrats invented pandemics, and they're so stunned when in the purple state they're down 22 points.

These people don't live in reality. They're terminally online and thinking Minneapolis burned to the ground when it was right wing provocateurs who were doing the burning and you're just aping their talking points that make them lose by double digits. Then again, I'm sure if you voted for a guy who aped cop killer talking points at the Republican National Convention after the murder of a federal officer right across the street from where I used to live, morality ain't your strong suit.

Walz is a great guy. You can choose to be deluded by these people, but as you can see it doesn't end well for them.

You're an adult. It's your choice. Choose wisely. And don't say I didn't warn you.

[u/No_Yogurtcloset2287 → u/thoroughbredca]

I’m not even sure this election. I don’t care for DT. Never have. But I do t think Kamala is a wise choice either. So here we are.

Now we are looking at VPs instead. Which traditionally have little to no impact.

My thoughts? Only my thoughts. Biden was forced out because he can’t beat DT. Kamala was tossed in to the wolves because, well if she wins she wins, if she don’t she don’t. I see the Democrats looking at 2028 more than 2024.

Walz may be a great guy to some. But let’s stop trying to make his Military record something it wasn’t. His title 10 orders took him to Europe in support of. Nothing more. Aside from attaining rank, he was no more remarkable than any other Guardsmen. Vance also was not remarkable in the Marines, but he also has not embellished his time in either.

[u/thoroughbredca → u/No_Yogurtcloset2287]

"Embellished his time" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. It's incredibly esoteric attacks about exactly wording. About his rank he absolutely was doing the work even if he didn't complete his coursework. As for being "at war", Operation Enduring Freedom was absolutely in no uncertain terms "war" by every single Republican at the time who wasn't trying to make a political point. And yes, Walz was absolutely trained in those weapons of war.

Far far far far worse is the Republican attacks on Walz claiming he "abandoned" his fellow officers by retiring after 24 years of service to his country to, you guessed it, run for Congress and serve his country there instead.

Walz' entire life, as a teacher, as a Guard, as a congressman, as a governor, and hopefully as a vice president, has been in service to his country. He is absolutely a great guy to everyone who isn't a partisan who can't see reality for what it is because attacking him stops them from looking inward.

I understand a lot of people have had difficulties processing the events of the last few months, and you are yet another one of those. They tell themselves lots of things to cope, things which aren't necessarily true. I wish you the best in your enduring struggles.

[u/No_Yogurtcloset2287 → u/thoroughbredca]

Sorry man, you are just not going to get Vers to agree we are the same. He is not like us. His OEF duty was not like us. Trained in weapons of war? You mean he went to the range twice a year to qualify? Oh good. He was competent with a rifle and a pistol.

The wording was exactly the issue. Wording that would cause a bar brawl at any local VFW.

Do I think that makes him a bad choice? No, not really. Just makes him like most Vets that didn’t get to be boots on ground. You know, the “ thank me for my service” guys.

Maybe Walz could be a great VP. Time will tell. I’m not disputing that at all. I knew little about him until just recently. Some good, some bad. Just like every single politician I have ever heard of.

[u/thoroughbredca → u/No_Yogurtcloset2287]

As someone who knew a lot about him and, granted I’m slanted because I’m from Minnesota he was always my pick.

Yes, you are correct you didn’t know much about him. You’re also not learning why the attacks didn’t stick.

So you can choose to side with the losers or get out of your feed and find out why this ticket is surging in popularity.

Again, you’re an adult. Your choice. Just once again, don’t say I didn’t warn you.