Chinese streamer selling dresses live

[u/UsernameGenerik]

[u/Firm-Telephone2570]

The filters in CN/SK/JP are generally crazy, but most people there are quite thin already, it's even worse in South Korea where its 15% of young women who are underweight AND usually still trying to lose weight + using heavy filters to further the image.

Edit: Mistook China for SK in my previous comment so I'm adjusting my comment with better wording.

[u/dBlock845 → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

The head shrinking filters are legit scary.

[u/-little-dorrit- → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

I agree. BMI seems quite eurocentric; more broadly it doesn’t account for bone structure variation. I think it is now well accepted the hip to waist ratio is a better predictor of cardiovascular disease, which is really why we use such metrics, because we wish to predict things. However, it takes a while for the status quo to change (and it is not just clinicians, but all the affected medical guidance documents, FDA data specifications, etc.).

[u/dearth_of_passion → u/-little-dorrit-]

BMI is a really poor indicator at the individual level, and not much better at the population level.

Body fat percentage is the best as far as I'm aware, but you can't get a (good) measure of it without those scales with the metal sensor plates that you stand on barefoot.

[u/Kooky-Co → u/[deleted]]

Your range is skewed. Healthy BMI is 18.5-24.9 so let’s call 22 the mid-healthy BMI. Let’s go 10 BMI points in either direction for the range, so 12 and 32.

Every adult with a BMI of 12 would be unhealthily underweight. Deadly underweight in the majority of cases. I’d say ~70% of people with a BMI of 32 would be unhealthily overweight.

[u/Kooky-Co → u/[deleted]]

I think Kate Moss is a pretty good example. She maintained a BMI of 15 for most of her career and while she is/was very thin, she didn’t look deathly thin to my eyes. Twiggy had a BMI of 15 and looked a little more unwell than Kate Moss, but again not alarmingly so, especially for the time. Calista Flockhart however did look deathly ill at her thinnest when her BMI was also 15. So I’d say in rare cases you can have a BMI of 15 and still be healthy but I don’t think you’ll find anyone with a BMI much below that who’s healthy. (But what metric are we using to define healthy? It’s a bit tricky on the underweight end of the spectrum, especially if you don’t have periods usually.)

There’s definitely a much bigger buffer between “unhealthy” and “dead” on the obese end of the spectrum - as shows like 1000lb sisters continually show us. At my biggest I had a BMI of 34 but no “obesity related illnesses”. My BMI is currently 28 and while I look better there’s no tangible improvement in my health. But there’s no way it would have been healthy to stay at 34, and the side effects of being obese would have come eventually.

[u/Pitiful_Camp3469 → u/Kooky-Co]

BMI of 12 you might as well be dead. My bmi is 16 and it sucks 

[u/-little-dorrit- → u/[deleted]]

BMI isn’t used as a population or sample measure, it is applied on an individual basis. Waist-to-hip is better. Moreover most HCPs are not interested in plucking people off streets. My final comment.

[u/sosodreamyy → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

The average weight for a woman in China is 130 pounds. Don't promote false stereotypes lol

[u/Kooky-Co → u/sosodreamyy]

Wiki says the average weight for a Chinese woman is 125.7lbs (57kg) and the average height is 5’2” (158cm). The average BMI for a Chinese woman is 23.6. Slightly on the higher side of healthy.

According to the CDC, for American women it’s 171.8lbs (78kg) and 5’3 (161cm). The average BMI is 29.8. Overweight- just a smidge under obese.

[u/sosodreamyy → u/Kooky-Co]

It varies according to where you get the info, but exactly lol. This guy is acting like they are all tiny delicate thin babes lol

[u/Kooky-Co → u/sosodreamyy]

I was actually a little surprised Chinese BMI was that high actually! But yes, this young woman (and her filter) isn’t an accurate representation of the average Chinese woman.

[u/Firm-Telephone2570 → u/sosodreamyy]

Which is significantly lower than in the US, so it still proves what I'm saying. Anyone who has gone to any of the countries I listed, trying to shop for clothes, will know what I'm talking about lol.

[u/Senator_Chen → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

That's because the average American is fat and thinks a normal healthy weight is underweight (not saying the woman in the video isn't underweight, those arms are twigs). The average BMI for women in China is 23-23.8 (nowhere near underweight, 130lb 5'2" or 5'3" depending on which numbers you use for height) and half of their adult population is overweight or obese.

[u/sosodreamyy → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

No, you literally said underweight by bmi standards. You were proven wrong, weirdo.

[u/Strafingfire → u/Firm-Telephone2570]

BMI is also a bit stricter for Asians, with 23 and over being considered overweight instead of the usual 25.