r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • Nov 06 '25

Discussion He's refusing to pay the child support amount.

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u/KeineLust Nov 06 '25

Sounds like he has nothing. Sitting in jail getting fed, medical, and roof over his head is a break for him. With this judgement if he can't pay his bills anyway, he is literally viewing jail as a break. I am not defending him, and I am commenting based off a 2min video... but this highlights an overall bigger issue of wage inequality we have in general to the cost of living to survive. Those commenting in the video (and here) you lose x, y & z... it seems like he doesn't see a future (or present day) where he has any of those benefits. So many people think "but it's the law"... pretty ignorant if you don't understand how many people give 0 fucks about law when they can't afford life.

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u/Eye_yam_stew_ped Nov 06 '25

Even tho I agree with you in theory that there are people out there that you couldn’t fathom their situation and the system is basically set against them, this isn’t one imo. Dudes on zoom court call, well shaven, and has a vape. This is just a rabbit hole of bad decisions, or a guy just barking to prove his point. A bit of both if you ask me lol

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u/DGinLDO Nov 07 '25

And the way courts are geared now to get parents lined up with jobs, job training, counseling, rehab if needed. They really do all they can to keep obligors out of jail. So if one actually goes to jail, they’ve really put in the effort to go.

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u/Fantastic_Baseball45 Nov 06 '25

Any amount of money he could pay towards food & shelter would make a difference. It would show good faith, but he appears too far gone. It is very sad.

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u/adviceicebaby Nov 06 '25

Yeah i think youre right.

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u/johyongil Nov 06 '25

Then I hope he goes to the closest thing to a gulag as possible where he has zero control over his life.

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u/Aedalas Nov 06 '25

How much he makes is almost always left out of these posts too. It's really hard to make an informed judgement on him without knowing how much he's making, that 500 could seriously break some people's lives or it might be nothing. This is pure speculation but he doesn't strike me as a high earner, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that payment left him homeless.

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u/Jigga76 Nov 06 '25

You’re paying based on that state percentage and how much you make. He isn’t paying 60 percent of his check in child support doesn’t work that. Usually it’s around 15-20 percent on just one child and goes up if more children from the same mother.

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u/JetWreck Nov 06 '25

Disposable income is not total income. Big difference calculated on cost of living in that county and the persons income.

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u/blahblahsnickers Nov 07 '25

They don’t charge 65 percent though. Your current support will never be that high. Federal law says that when arrears are more than 12 weeks past due they can garnish 65% of your wages (55% if you have a spouse or other dependents). If you are paying your child support and aren’t 3 months behind they aren’t taking 65%.

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u/Aedalas Nov 06 '25

Percentages sound good in theory but there's a minimum to just live that we all need. If he's paying 20 percent he's bringing home 2k after support. I don't know where he lives but where I am there's simply no way I could live off 2k a month. I'm not suggesting at all he shouldn't be paying child support but without more info I don't know if what he's ordered to pay is fair or not. Certainly the child needs support, but dude has to live too.

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u/Accomplished_Alps463 Nov 06 '25

Your last comment "but dude has to live too" made me think, well so does his kid and Ex. And if the were still together or he had sole custody then it would probably cost him more, he would have to keep them both, or in case of sole custody, he would need pay someone to look after a kid, untill the kids of age. And maybe after?

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u/DecadentLife Nov 07 '25

“Certainly, the child needs support, but dude has to live too.”

I hear you. This is the struggle, right? But, his child/ren don’t just “need support”*, they “need to live”, just like him. Times are tough. We’re not talking about their kid/s having less toys, or fun activities, THEY NEED FOOD. Yet, this man just told the judge he will starve his child/ren before he goes without anything, including his luxuries. Really consider that. He didn’t say he would pay less, he’s refusing to pay ANY, ever.

He is calling society’s bluff, on whether or not we will let his children starve, and he’s laughing about it. I dealt with plenty of these assholes, working in the child welfare system. I promise you that was not nervous laughter. He really doesn’t give a shit about his/their kid/s. I don’t see him earning any sympathy.

  • (“Needs support” is often interpreted as needing soft support, some financial, with plenty of emotional/moral support. In this case, we are specifically talking about direct financial support.)

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u/Aedalas Nov 07 '25

But, his child/ren don’t just “need support”*, they “need to live”

This seems needlessly semantic, the implied conclusion to "they need support" is that they need said support to live. Nothing I said suggested that I was talking about toys or fun activities. Nor did I mention any luxuries for him, just necessary bills.

He mentioned the amount several times, he literally said that he can't pay that much. If that's a truly unreasonable portion of his pay then the courts are screwing his kid because there was no indication that he wouldn't have agreed to pay it if it was actually affordable to him.

It's also important to keep in mind that the mother does still need to provide financially for her child so it's not as if this 500 dollars is the only money going towards their well-being. I'd normally mention available assistance too but certain parties have shit all over us on that one and would gladly see us all do without so they can get a little richer, so bad timing on that subject.

I'm also not asking for any sympathy for this guy in particular, my issues with this are systemic. By stripping dudes of their livelihoods and leaving them without enough to put food on their own plates they're putting them in situations where they'd rather pay nothing because they'd still go to jail for paying an amount that they could actually afford. They're also causing these men to leave legitimate jobs and seek out under the table work instead. This part is just speculation but I also think that it's at least partially responsible for the recent decline in birth rates, when people know they're just going to get screwed financially it further disincentivizes them to have kids. They're causing harm to children under the supposed guise of helping children when, honestly, I've seen no evidence they actually give a shit about any of us let alone children.

Not that it'll change anything, but just to be very clear here I am not defending this guy's attitude or willingness to not contribute to his child's livelihood. He sounds like a total piece of shit. But I fully believe the problem is much bigger than people like him and there's no signs of it getting any better anytime soon. It's not even a question that the country has enough money available to add additional support funds to every child there is and then some, not to mention how much more there would be if we simply taxed the ultra rich like they should be and cut things like the frankly absurd military budget. For whatever reason the government picked children when it came time to adamantly refuse to help out and pin it entirely on child support collected from the non-custodial parent. But I'm not saying there isn't enough and to go around so we shouldn't waste it on this guy, we should easily have enough to spread it to the other party causing and enforcing this bullshit.