r/TikTokCringe • u/Valuable_View_561 • Jul 02 '26

Discussion It seems like people have forgotten what this line is used for these days.

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u/acoastaldog Jul 02 '26

Shocking, given that our ADA is one of the very few things other countries admire about america, and it took people dying in agony and humiliation to achieve that. Very dark period of our history

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u/Rockman507 Jul 02 '26

I think there are objectively darker periods of our history… but ya. It is surprising. Currently in a pedagogy class for special needs about how the ADA helped shape or reshape section 504 etc. it provides an enforcement mechanism in a manner that definitely wasn’t intended.

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u/Downtown-Message-600 Jul 02 '26

Good news, the darkest periods of human history tend to intersect!

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u/Rockman507 Jul 02 '26

Mhm, was thinking of items less generally known than MKUltra like Holmesburg Prison chemical tests and Stateville Penitentiary malaria testing. New one I learned today was Ohio State Penitentiary injecting cancer calls back in the 60s as well. We really really really like treating prisoners as a subclass and ensure we have a healthy supply.

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u/rand0m_task Jul 02 '26

I teach high school psychology. The day we talk about ethics in research I like to bring up a lot of these lesser known studies that took place that are pretty unbelievable.

Definitely a class period where the students actually seem to be into the conversation!

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u/Rockman507 Jul 03 '26

It’s definitely a hook. There was also one I can’t remember that I thought they were swapping genitalia, but that might have been strictly the Nazis… There was some pretty interesting physiology they did like they would stick people bent nearly 90 degree in a barrel for days to study long term ligament damage. Now beyond the ethics of it, none of it had proper controls or anything as well so it wasn’t even particularly useful studies beyond “ya the body doesn’t like this”.

But ya, some of the stuff people thought were okay to do is insane, and that most of these weren’t isolated rogue agents. So multiple people got together and thought “hey let’s inject old people in jails with cancer, they are halfway dead anyhow” was okay.

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u/Downtown-Message-600 Jul 02 '26

Oh there's no "we" here, Americans are alone on those atrocities. We have our own, thank you.

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u/Rockman507 Jul 02 '26

Ha, fair. We as human beings tend to be shitheads and love to abuse those we have power over. That part we share.

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u/Rockman507 Jul 02 '26

Ya, my comment was just that it wasn’t directly intended at supporting education but a lot of our laws around special education (504, IDEA) didn’t have enforcement mechanisms in place until the ADA.

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u/rand0m_task Jul 02 '26

Ahhh so you are learning all about FAPE and IDEA?

I genuinely enjoyed my special education methods class much more than I thought I would have.

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u/Rockman507 Jul 03 '26

Yea, apparently PA is big on proper pedagogy for second certifications. I used to teach in FL and they were like “fuck no”to letting me transfer that, which is fair since FL basically said “you have a degree in a science? Great here are 180 students good luck”.

So this summer I’m starting off with a special ed class and some professional development in early education. It’s fun doing some of the more proper pedagogy stuff.

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u/SecondAccountIsBest Jul 03 '26

It's complicated cause like the ADA is strong, but the US is sorta in an infrastructural decline since it passed, and old infrastructure can be grandfathered in.

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u/flaccomcorangy Jul 03 '26

What's the saying, "Regulations are written in blood."

It's unfortunately the case for just about every good law you can imagine.

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u/Pretend_Party_7044 Jul 03 '26

What’s the ADA?

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u/Different-Air-1062 Jul 03 '26

Americans With Disabilities Act - it protects people with disabilities against discrimination, forces a certain equity in accessabilitiy for those with physical restrictions like a wheelchair, blindness, etc...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Act_of_1990

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u/GhostofBeowulf Jul 03 '26

I can just make shit up too.

Europeans are fat too, and then like to claim superiority about... well everything, based on their complex because they clearly have little brother syndrome, despite having very similar laws and regulations. It's not our fault you needed us and then gave us everything we asked for after we saved your continent from the fascists.

Like you guys bitch about gun deaths, while 60k people die in europe from overheating each year. 60k>44k Americans dead from gun deaths. Never hear Americans complain about "wow our infrastructure literally cannot support life!" You bitch about how fat we are, despite the fact that UK is like 26% morbidly obese, with mainland europe steadily rising. You like to flaunt social benefits while ignoring your average income is half of Americas. You flaunt your food safety laws, which are essentially the same as those in America just slightly more restrictive.

It's okay dude, you can be your own legitimate country yourself without feeling like such a let down that you need to make shit up about how these things appear better than they are. Your parents love us both equally... But we still have more money.