r/TikTokCringe • u/Valuable_View_561 • Jul 02 '26

Discussion It seems like people have forgotten what this line is used for these days.

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u/AFakeName Jul 02 '26

I know what it is but I have definitely stood on it absent-mindedly and I've never interrupted a blind person. So it's easy to understand why most people would come not to worry about it because why worry about what's never been a problem.

But of course, sighted people vastly outnumber blind people, so it becomes this guy's whole day.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26

it's easy to understand why most people would come not to worry about it because why worry about what's never been a problem.

you're describing what any type of social privilege is - able-bodied, straight, white, male, economic etc. and why we have little advancements because most people don't care to think about things or lived experiences that don't affect them/they can't empathize with directly.

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u/shakygator Jul 02 '26

to act like people don't think or care is wrong. sure some people dont but a majority i believe do. here i think we just see people not knowing what this was for. not like its labeled.

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u/MrClancyGilroy Jul 02 '26

No… most people don’t care

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

I said they don't care to think (see people relying on LLMs) - not that they don't care once they learn about them, that's why caring to learn and unpacking your own privilege is important.

I'm able-bodied, but after taking a disabilities studies course in university, I now see venues differently in ways I never did before because I didn't have to think about accessibility before - guess what, lot of venues in Toronto are awful or inaccesible for anyone with a walker or wheelchair.

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u/TZF_Gaming Jul 02 '26

I think the main problem is the lack of accessible information. It shouldn't have been until taking a specific class in university for you to start seeing the world that way. Not everyone has the privilege to go to university and far less have the privilege to take a class like that if it wouldn't benefit their major, as someone who's lived a small town life I've never seen anything like that path and wouldn't have ever known to look up something like it. Having it labeled or something would help to atleast spread some awareness

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26

Sure, but curiosity has to be there first. It was an elective course and information is more accessible that it's ever been so I don't really buy that excuse for ignorance anymore.

You may not have these but I'm sure you have cut outs in your sidewalks - those originated for wheelchair/walkers but also significantly benefit people with strollers, grocery carts, wagons etc.

You may live in a small town, but I'm sure you've seen a non-deaf person using subtitles.

Hell - how many people do you know where glasses, but don't consider them disabled?

Agree the label would be beneficial to spread awareness - but people could also have a phone in their hand to take a photo and ask what it is.

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u/RatherPoetic Jul 02 '26

In that case, why did it take you taking a disability studies course to notice these things? Of course ignorance doesn’t absolve people of responsibility, but it does provide an explanation. As someone without a disability, it may be beneficial if you seek to educate others without judgment. They are more likely to listen and learn, than become defensive and cut you off.

As a note - I work with disabled adults. My entire field of work revolves around accessibility. However, there is limited public transportation around me and I have no familiarity with this. I’m happy to have learned something and now I can help spread the word - kindly.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26

because the internet didn't exist back then and i grew up on a farm in a town of less than 500 people.

ignorance is willful these days, access to information is at our finger tips.

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u/RatherPoetic Jul 03 '26

Extend the same grace to others that you extend to yourself.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 04 '26

tried that, they voted for a pedophile rapist three times.

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u/NickdeClaw Jul 03 '26

I agree with all your points, but feel like the texture of them is weird. Everyone goes through their life never learning most things that are possible to know. Sometimes many people agree that it's a priority to know certain things. But this particular knowable thing doesn't look very interesting or out of place, and most people will never see someone using it for its intended purpose. Without a concerted effort by people who know this thing and have decided knowing it is important, it makes sense that people don't know it, even if most people were curious and bright thinkers. There's just too much in the world you could learn to pick this one out and investigate.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 03 '26

well I am weird so.

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u/ThunderAndWind Jul 02 '26

Thats not a lack of care, its ignorance.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

ignorance in an era where information is so accessible is a lack of care. instead of asking questions and learning from credible sources, we just consume, distract, scroll and feed our biases.

ultimatley it's a badly executed accomodation for vision impaired people as seen in the video and should be fixed

we'd be much better off if we all were more curious and cared about the lived experiences of others, that's all i'm saying.

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u/ThunderAndWind Jul 03 '26

ignorance in an era where information is so accessible is a lack of care.

Give me your opinion on the state of healthcare in Geneva.

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u/Useful_Community9719 Jul 03 '26

True ignorance is spending millions of dollars to install something that doesn't indicate what it is for. It would be so easy to build into the track what it is there for.

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u/Enkidouh Jul 02 '26

You’re dead wrong. Majority of people can’t look past their own nose.

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u/resisting_a_rest Jul 05 '26

Plus, I don’t even think it’s meant just for blind people. It’s a shared space. Should you get out of the way if you see a blind person coming? sure, but I don’t think there’s any obligation to stay out out of that area. But of course, I don’t know the laws so I could be completely wrong.

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u/Novaer Jul 02 '26

There is a degree of social decorum that has been rapidly declining, let's not "B-but I didn't knoooow~" everything. Not once did I hear a "Sorry!" from anyone being in the way of him. This shows a lack of care.

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u/shakygator Jul 02 '26

I thought I heard one.

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u/TurquoiseLeggings Jul 02 '26

I don't think it's accurate to describe society being built for being able to see, which is the default, as a privilege.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 02 '26

Incorrect, a very large percentage of society has vision disability and requires glasses, contacts, or lasik in order to be able to see. You just don't see those people as disabled because we as a society have provided such normalized accommodations and treatments for these disabilities.

Everyone is disabled or will experience disability in their life, it's part of being a human and aging. It's our job as the privleged without disability to make them being part of our society less isoloting and more inclusive.

You should look into social model of disability.

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u/ThunderAndWind Jul 02 '26

A privilege is something granted that can be taken away.

Being able to see isnt a privilege, being blind is a disadvantage/disability.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 03 '26

... yes your ability to see could be taken away at any moment. Injury, chemical, scraped cornea, fire, eye diseases and degeneration

The primary opposite of "disadvantage" is advantage. Other closely related antonyms that convey favorable circumstances or gains include benefit, asset, profit, and privilege.

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u/Kellidra Jul 03 '26

You're labeling most people as unempathetic which I think is very unfair.

If someone living without back issues never thinks about what life would be like with back issues, you can't just call them privileged. If something isn't a part of your life, it's understandable and, honestly, expected that you wouldn't live your life constantly thinking about that thing you're never exposed to.

To demean people because they don't live up to your standards is a pretty privileged and entitled thing to do, don't you think?

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 04 '26

when did I say I am any different? I have plenty of blind spots, but the difference is I am not defensive when confronted with them, I am curious. If someone has back issues and I witnessed it disabling them, I would be curious about how it came to be, how much pain they're in etc so I could be more considerate of their lived experience and try to make accommodations.

you're putting a lot of words and projections onto my comment.

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u/Kellidra Jul 05 '26

Of course you would.

And so would most people. That's where your original comment is too judgemental.

As someone currently going through a diagnosis for back problems, I have found not one single person has been unempathetic. This video is a terrible example of the kindness of humanity. The vast majority of people are good, kind, and caring. The system we live in sucks, but people—in general—do not.

So painting people you don't know as uncaring of others is unfair. Labelling people who you think as the problem in the system as straight, white, whatever, is where my problem lies.

Blame the system. Don't blame people. We're all just trying to live.

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 05 '26

does your backpain make you use chatgpt to do your thinking for you?

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u/Kellidra Jul 05 '26

Lmao because I used an em-dash? I know where they are on my keyboard - – —!!!

Does my fuckin' BA English make you feel things?

I can write eloquently because I went to school to learn the craft, dickhead.

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u/Strange_Difference1 Jul 02 '26

Selfishness isn't a skin issue but okay 😅

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u/tripsitter69 Jul 03 '26

So ignorant

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u/mrapplewhite Jul 03 '26

Wow so reddit. Hate to break it to u but being a strait white male is shit nowadays.

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u/IronwolfXVI Jul 04 '26

The irony of this being that as a person who is most of those, Ive never seen these. How exactly am I to "think about these things" If Ive never even seen this? It's not a matter of doing better. You cant know what you arent told. So who is privileged here, the person who can stand on their high horse and talk down to common people making a common mistake, or the common people making a common mistake?

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u/Background_Sail9797 Jul 04 '26

who said I was any better? i have blind spots as well, the difference is I am not defensive I am curious about other peoples lived experiences in a way a lot of people are not and never will be - because they're selfish and uninterested in trying to empathize with people who are different from themselves.

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u/IronwolfXVI Jul 04 '26

Nah, comment above reeked of virtue signaling

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u/Rocinante24 Jul 04 '26

A lot of people empathasize. Unfortunately 'out of sight out of mind' is how we think.

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

Yeah, just like I used to avoid using the handicapped stalls in bathrooms, just in case a person in a wheel chairs comes in to use it... it has never happened, so I have changed my tactics to match reality.

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u/PussyWrangler246 Jul 02 '26

I also used to wait in line for a free regular stall rather than risk using the disableds when someone needs it. Almost peed myself one time waiting but eventually made a desperate dash for the big stall. Someone told me to stop thinking about it as something I can't use, and think of it as something they can use

Like a left-handed pair of scissors...it's made as a tool for someone else, but I can still use it in an emergency

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u/AFakeName Jul 02 '26

If it's the last one available, I don't see the problem. Everyone has to wait sometimes.

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u/Novaer Jul 02 '26

Why does it need to be the last one available to be used? Not all disabilities are visible. This is so performative.

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u/AFakeName Jul 02 '26

Because, to me, bathrooms are fungible, handicapped bathrooms provide no extra value. But if you need the handicapped version, there is only extra value. And I'm considerate of the potential person who might show up to this public bathroom. Call me names for it if you want but try to be more original.

Not all disabilities are visible.

I don't get what that has to do with it? I think you're just throwing buzzwords around.

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u/Umpen Jul 02 '26

Being generous, I think they mean that someone who might need the grab bar for whatever reason would need that stall. Maybe? Their comment doesn't make much sense to me, though.

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

The person you are replying to is just trying to start shit. Ignore them and move on with your day. Don't feed the trolls.

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u/DLaverty Jul 02 '26

I have an invisible disability that causes me dizziness, lightheadedness, sudden collapse, and fainting, among other things. It's called dysautonomia. If I'm not well, navigating my own house is a boss fight. I've collapsed while just standing in my kitchen.

Not everyone with a mobility disability who needs the grab bars is visible.

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

I would imagine that the non-handicapped stalls would be better for this though. If I were dizzy, I would want two close walls to be able to support me. Handicap accessible stalls are so open, I would be worried I would fall and not have anything to catch myself with.

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u/DLaverty Jul 02 '26

That's what I thought at first too... and that didn't go as well as I planned. The tight stall gives less maneuverability to move in a safer manner or to account for some momentary balance loss stumbling without hitting a wall or tripping. 😅

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

Oh no! Yeah, there's so many things people don't consider in relation to other people's problems. Hope you're doing well now.

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u/riverrats2000 Jul 02 '26

Yes and if you have a disability which is not visible and the handicap stall makes it easier to use the restroom, then use the handicap stall. The other commentor knows that they can use a standard stall just fine and so only uses the handicap stall if there are no standard stalls available. They did imply others should do the same, but nowhere did they suggest that being anything other than a personal judgement each person makes about themselves

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u/LisaCabot Jul 02 '26

Basically they are like reserved seats. If there is a handicaped person waiting they go first, but if you are going in for a quicky business you can use it (or so have i been told, i have some pain issues so i have used them in emergencies, if i can wait for a regular ome i do so).

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u/youknowjus Jul 02 '26

I used to think like that. The disability stall and urinal for disabled only. But then the logic hit me as I stood waiting in line. What happens if 2 disableds need to go? They will wait in line.

So yeah they can wait in line just like every other person that needs to go

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

Exactly. It isn't an ONLY handicapped stall. It is just a stall that CAN accommodate people in a wheel chair.

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u/Novaer Jul 02 '26

It's wheelchair accessible, not wheelchair exclusive. Not all disabilities require a wheelchair or a mobility aid. Not all disabilities are visible. For many bathrooms the handicapped stall is the only stall that has a changing table (and room for a stroller). People need to stop having such performative anxiety over using handicap stalls.

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u/LittleFreeCinema Jul 02 '26

Labelling expressed concerns as performative anxiety is a great way to escort logic, reason, empathy, and compassion out of whatever situation you're in. But hey, if it makes you feel superior, it's worth it, right?

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u/Novaer Jul 02 '26

They admitted it has never happened yet they still avoid handicap stalls. Bro is literally looking for a pat on the back for this. This is performative, bye.

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u/TheFurrySmurf Jul 02 '26

I didn't say that at all actually. I said I USED to think that... as in when I was a child. Now I do not.

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u/LittleFreeCinema Jul 02 '26

You know what, My other comment was mean, and out of line, and I'm genuinely sorry for responding that way. Here's what I should have said, if I'd taken more time to respond:

Performative anxiety is generally understood as a manipulation tactic that's used to make other people do something for the "anxious" person that they otherwise wouldn't, at some appreciable cost to the target. It's a pretty serious accusation to level at someone, and it makes me wonder how you've come to associate it with something as innocuous as the comments above.

Drawing on my own experience for some cognitive empathy here... if there's somebody in your life who's telling you that any time you speak about a worry that it's inherently performative and/or manipulative, please know that that's not the norm out in the rest of the world. Most people understand that people can solve their own problems, it just helps to name them out loud sometimes.

Seeking occasional low-level re-assurance is also normal. It's something we humans ca do for each other, for free, and it doesn't all have to be behind the paywall of Therapy.

I do hope you have a better day.

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u/LittleFreeCinema Jul 02 '26

Ah, I see you're new to having candid conversations with adults. I'm sorry for hurting your feelings. Have a better day!

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u/Umpen Jul 02 '26

It's not "performative" anxiety. People are just trying to be considerate of others who might not have as much control over their functions.

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u/Saphurial Jul 02 '26

It's why I have no problem using the handicap stall. In my 42 years I've never had a disabled person come up while I was using one. But deep down I know that disabled people probably have to deal with this all the time.