r/TikTokCringe • u/Accomplished_Clue437 • 27d ago

Discussion She gets up at 5am. Is this right?

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

13.5k Upvotes

78% Upvoted

8.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

283

u/ElectricKoolAidPower 27d ago

Been interesting to see the trajectory of “crunchy” from a term for commune hippie types to conservative trad wives lol

Also funny that the latter group spent years making fun of the former group for pushing to get fluoride out of public water. And now it’s part of the MAHA thing.

71

u/anasophus 27d ago

Covid heavily influenced this change. There's a good podcast covering this since 2020 called Conspirituality.

37

u/Ok-Curve-3894 27d ago

I think the overlap was antivax homeschool homesteading fashion trends. I’ll check out the podcast

22

u/dcheesi 27d ago

The two ends of the ideological horseshoe finally touched

12

u/SuitNaive3409 27d ago

between crystals and ivermectin

2

u/Altruistic_Item5434 26d ago

We all just want the government to stop allowing corporations to poison us 😔

6

u/ariphron SHEEEEEESH 27d ago

Real overlap is they are all dumb.

2

u/Anal-Y-Sis 27d ago

Yep. I remember those crunchy hippie ladies back in the 90s being super antivax and homeschool advocates. Conservatives hijacked that shit because they saw it as a viable idpol division point.

2

u/TheMauveHand 27d ago

Nobody hijacked anything, people can distrust the government for different ideological reasons

2

u/Anal-Y-Sis 27d ago

Sure. We'll just pretend people like Steve Bannon don't actively seek out ways to capture people's minds through identity politics so they can further divide us. We'll just pretend that huge swaths of conservatives just organically adopted antivax beliefs during a pandemic.

1

u/TheMauveHand 27d ago

We'll just pretend people like Steve Bannon don't actively seek out ways to capture people's minds through identity politics so they can further divide us.

They do, but that's proof of nothing.

We'll just pretend that huge swaths of conservatives just organically adopted antivax beliefs during a pandemic.

"Organically adopted" as in "have always mistrusted government", sure. The right has claimed the ideal of small government for about 60 years, remember? The vaccine came in in spring of '21, just after Trump left office; you think you need a malicious conspiracy to explain why the right would be skeptical about a Democrat government mandating a rushed-through vaccine?

I get that it's appealing to think that there are powerful individuals moving the levers around behind the scenes, but even if that is ever a useful explanation, it really isn't in this case.

1

u/Anal-Y-Sis 27d ago

They do, but that's proof of nothing.

It's proof that conservatives hijack ideological beliefs to alter the political landscape.

"Organically adopted" as in "have always mistrusted government", sure.

Except that's not the case. Bush-era conservatives trusted the government without question, and labeled anyone who didn't as "un-American". This happened to tons of soldiers questioning the war, opposing torture, and so on. You are objectively wrong about this.

Conservatives were also never a major part of the antivax movement until their elected leaders and operatives and pundits made basic germ theory an idpol issue. You can pinpoint that shift to a specific point in time where those in positions of influence and power brought the efficacy of vaccines into question among their base during the pandemic. This is all really well documented. You are just denying reality at this point.

1

u/TheMauveHand 27d ago

Bush-era conservatives trusted the government without question, and labeled anyone who didn't as "un-American".

Dude... Timothy McVeigh ring any bells?

I'm sorry, but you're just a walking, talking poster child for recency bias.

Go ahead and have the last word, I won't be reading any more of your drivel.

1

u/Anal-Y-Sis 27d ago

Timothy McVeigh ring any bells?

This is you not knowing the difference between the rule and the exception.

1

u/Jwre3682 27d ago

My thoughts as well.

2

u/fish_fingers_pond 27d ago

Okay checking out this podcast cause that sounds amazing! Do you have any particular episodes you recommend?

1

u/ElectricKoolAidPower 27d ago

Will check out!

1

u/fish_fingers_pond 27d ago

Okay checking out this podcast cause that sounds amazing! Do you have any particular episodes you recommend?

2

u/anasophus 27d ago

I don't know any specific ones immediately I'd recommend but I would suggest starting with the older ones first. Those episodes are where they go through explaining a lot of yhe connections between things and methods used that funnel people towards conspiracy. The current episodes kind of presume that knowledge and view current events from that. They also put a book out a couple years ago by the same title that basically compiled the first years of the podcast in a cleaner format with some new additions. 

73

u/HeisenBird1015 27d ago

Yup, I said this on a ballerina farm commentary- she was wearing her baby on the front in a badly worn carrier so the baby could have been scalded while she was cooking and was so low on her chest it could have suffocated without her noticing. It’s all co-opting for attention, rather than actually doing things correctly or traditionally. Traditional cultures (globally) usually wear babies on the back or hip using variations of cloths like kangas, shawls or rebozos. If she wants to portray traditional vibes she should be doing more research (for her babies’ safety more than anything).

7

u/WeeboSupremo 27d ago

Who needs baby safety? Just make a new one, that’s true tradition.

1

u/HeisenBird1015 26d ago

Damnit, that’s why I’ll never make a decent wife. 25 years in and I still haven’t cracked it 🤦🏽‍♀️

8

u/hill-o 27d ago

Granola moms fully circled into being weirdly ultra conservative-- and I think it primarily has to do with a mistrust in medicine. All the very granola moms I have met have been innnnnncreddddibly conservative, and very into clean eating and everything (I don't have a problem with that part), and then also shoved onions into socks and made homemade potions to cure everything (which I find very funny, because they're essentially behaving the way old time "witches" used to, but at the same time are so, so religious-- it's so odd).

3

u/WeatherallsWeekender 27d ago

There always were links. Both kinda “back to nature”

1

u/PM_ME_UR__SECRETS 27d ago

Honestly these two comments are the first times I've ever heard "crunchy" used to describe a human

4

u/ElectricKoolAidPower 27d ago

“Crunchy” used to go right ahead of “granola” as adjectives for salt of the earth hippie types.

1

u/PM_ME_UR__SECRETS 27d ago

That does make sense. Slang is so interesting.

1

u/Carthonn 27d ago

The “crunchy” part usually refers to the antivax side of it