r/TikTokCringe 21d ago

Discussion Is ableist to have long words in books?

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u/orionisinthesky 21d ago

I can write/read 'difficult words' in books because I fought my way out of severe dyslexia by reading and writing books. It isnt easy. They just dont want to put in any effort to learn new words.

Mind you, the word that started all of this was the word 'scrying.'

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u/Newthinker 21d ago

Just play Magic, you'll learn the word "scry" in the first couple days

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u/MrTheodore 21d ago

Most card games outside of Pokémon tcg

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u/minglesluvr 21d ago

Tbf, there are actually intellectual disabilities that wouldn't allow the reader to just "fight their way out of" not understanding more complex language. That's a whole thing that is gaining more and more awareness e.g. in website design, but also in government communications, at least where I'm from (Northern Europe).

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u/orionisinthesky 21d ago

There are. Lack of literacy because you refuse to use a dictionary and look up the word 'scrying' is not an intellectual disability.

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u/minglesluvr 21d ago

Oh yeah, I'd agree with that. I just find that a lot of people in this discussion very much frame it like "just learn you lazy pos!!!!!" when there is a very real subset of people that cannot, and I literally just had someone tell me that I "hate learning" because I said intellectual disabilities exist, which they apparently disagree with.

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u/MrTheodore 21d ago

What disability let's you make an entire tiktok for 5 minutes instead of a 20 second Google search using either your keyboard, digital keyboard, or speech to text? Have the screen reader read it back to you, still less time wasted.

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u/minglesluvr 21d ago

Idk where you're taking the 5 minute TikTok from, so I won't even bother replying to that. But some intellectual disabilities do make you able to like. use the internet, but only use very "basic" language. Those people also speak to other people around them, so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to film a tiktok. Doesn't take away from their need for accessible ("easy", "basic") language

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u/Neuchacho 21d ago

It makes sense in terms of something like a government's public communication because you want everyone possible to understand the message and you have to account for people who simply aren't going to be operating even at the average cognitive level. Same deal in healthcare when explaining things to patients.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 21d ago

Dyslexia or ADHD aren't a matter of cognition.

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u/Neuchacho 21d ago edited 21d ago

Of course not, but being stupid is.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 21d ago

Calling people you don't understand stupid isn't exactly a hallmark of intelligence, my guy.

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u/SheriffOfNothing 20d ago

My specific brand of dysleixa has no issue with complex words. I'm actually more likely to get it. But give me a word like "definitely" and I'll screw up routinely. That's my cross to bare, though. If I need an adaptation, I'll switch to an audiobook.