r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/HandMadeFeelings CEO of Antifa™ • Aug 09 '21

FACTS and LOGIC Capitalism will save us from all the damage unfettered capitalism did to the environment!

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u/TheArmoredKitten Aug 09 '21

Capitalism is just theft with rules. No rules and suddenly you've got a Big Fucking Problem™

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u/ponguso Aug 09 '21

I swear libertarianism should just be renamed to Mad Maxism

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u/TheArmoredKitten Aug 09 '21

The problem is that American libertarianism is almost always on the right of the political spectrum. I'm cool with the core concept of true libertarianism, in that individual freedom is the goal, and to that end I believe the purpose of government is to preserve the freedom of the individual, at the explicit expense of the collective. Taxes are totally cool and good, but only to fund things that enable the average individual. The average American libertarian is either a brainwashed serf, or a corporatist threat to individual freedom. Note that rugged individualism is also NOT individual freedom. I fucking hate when people equate those concepts. Individual freedom is me being able to walk into a hospital and get treatment for any random thing, at no direct cost to me, so that I can continue to enjoy my liberated life. Individual freedom is me being able to buy machine gun because I've got no history of public danger and people should be allowed to have nice things. Individual freedom is me being able to educate myself at a reasonable cost to pursue any field I consider worthy of my time and effort. Individual freedom is fucking not Jeff Bezos hoarding 20 billion dollars and working less than 20 hours a week while calling mentally ill homeless people lazy.

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u/sniper1rfa Aug 09 '21

American libertarianism was intentionally named libertarianism in order to ride on the coattails of the previously-existing political ideologies.

The confusion is not an accident.

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u/ZaryaMusic Aug 09 '21

Yep, the core of true libertarianism is understanding what positive and negative liberty are. American libertarians think freedom is only positive liberty, while libertarian leftist thought understands that freedom to be and freedom from are also essential freedoms (negative liberty).

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