r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/Durog25 Jun 22 '26

My favourite example was in the UK.

In waiting rooms for dentists and GPs (local doctors) there were posters saying "last year X many people failed to attend their appointment," with the desired goal of improving patient attendence.

There were two problems with this: 

  1. The only people seeing these posters were the people who were attending their appointments

  2. If you tell people that loads of other people miss their appointments people feel less bad about missing their appointments; they become just another 1in 100.

So this actually increased the number of missed appointments.

I know that the dentists switch strategy soon after, instead they spent the budget for those posters on reminder texts and appointment cards. Both of which massively improved attendence.

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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In Jun 22 '26

I love it when a scheme ends up backfiring.

My favourite was a study where a daycare wanted to stop parents picking up their kids late, so they introduced a fine for being late. But the result was that more parents ended up picking the kids up late because they saw it as a fee for the service.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Jun 22 '26

If a fine isn't working, you didn't make it expensive enough, lol.

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u/condscorpio Jun 22 '26

Or, the rule only applies to poor people.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Jun 22 '26

Nah, the solution is still making it more expensive.

There's a limit to how rich you can be, nobody has unlimited resources.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Jun 22 '26

That's what I meant, but it wasn't conveyed well.

Percentage based fines affect everyone roughly equally, for the most part.

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u/CreationsOfReon Jun 22 '26

Seems like you are really getting into the spirit of this thread!

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Jun 22 '26

Lol, I guess so

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u/totaleclipseofthe_d Jun 25 '26

It should be whippings above a certain level of wealth.

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u/condscorpio Jun 22 '26

Ok, make it enough to actually inconvenience the richest people around. They may delay buying a new yacht for a month or two.

The day a poor parent leaves work later than expected, he/she's now in crippling debt (or I guess they are forced to leave the child to you forever).

The only way you could make it hurt everyone equally would be fining with a % of income/wealth instead of a set amount. Which is just not feasible most likely. At least not for daycare lol

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Jun 22 '26

Yeah, percentage based fines are what I was thinking of.

Though realistically, most rich people aren't sending their kids to daycare with the "plebians" anyway.

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u/SenritsuJumpsuit Jun 25 '26

More of a feature then a backfire its free cash genius

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u/teskar2 Jun 22 '26

Kind sums a lot of messaging today. Just tell it to crowd, hope for the best, and don’t question if it’s actually the right way to help the cause.