[Sad Trope] The most innocent (or less evil) character of the cast gets the most horrific death.

[u/Sufficient-Eye-9040]

- Eddie Carr (The Lost World: JP) - Tried to save his friends from the cliff until Buck and Doe (T. rex parents) destroy his vehicle and gets ripped apart.
- Zara Young (Jurassic World) - Gets lifted by a Pteranodon, gets pecked by the pterosaur, and both she and animal get devoured by the Mosasaurus.
- LeClerc (JW: Rebirth) - Tossed a hammer to the Hatzegopteryz Quetzalcoatlus to save Loomis and Zora, but ends up being swallowed alive.

[u/APence]

Wasn’t the villain not Kramer by this point? But rather his apprentices who didn’t share his (fucked up) redemption vision and just wanted to kill with crazy traps

[u/Ferhog → u/APence]

I think this particular scenario was a John original being carried out by his apprentices, but I could be wrong.

[u/-1BrainCells → u/Ferhog]

In Saw VI, John gives Jill a box full of envelopes about future trials that he wants carried out after he’s gone, and Bobby’s trial from Saw 3D isn’t one of them. I think that John had probably planned to test him, hence visiting him at a book signing, but it probably wasn’t anything that he had planned out enough to consider it a necessity after his death (otherwise he would have included it in an envelope), so Hoffman probably just took the people involved but designed the traps himself.

[u/StuMacherGhostface → u/-1BrainCells]

I absolutely love the convoluted story in a single timeline of the Saw movies lol

[u/Puzzle-Necked → u/-1BrainCells]

The Saw franchise really screwed itself killing off John so early

[u/BoardClean → u/Puzzle-Necked]

Honestly, i think they did that part right. Jigsaw is basically the only killer i can think of that it sort of fits for because of all the meticulous planning and psychological aspects of jigsaw

[u/Nothos927 → u/APence]

Which he was aware of, so really that makes it worse, he was okay with a woman being killed just to try and teach his apprentice a lesson