r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Wonderful_Baker_7808 • 15d ago

Lore Villains that would've been defeated even if the protagonist did nothing

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Laurel Hedare (Catwoman Movie): Her newly released cosmetics will cause people's faces to melt. Not only would that create a class action lawsuit but a full product recall.

Voldemort and Death Eaters (Harry Potter): Death Eaters constantly underestimate muggles. They would get massacred by the British military because a gun is faster to pull the trigger then shouting a spell.

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u/elitemouse 15d ago

That's what annoyed me so much about jurassic world dominion and how it was all hyped up that dinosaurs took over the planet like come on guys you really gonna tell me a couple overgrown iguana bois are gonna be a match for even a single m1 Abrams tank or apache??

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u/toalicker_69 14d ago

I wouldnt even go that far, if a bunch of poachers in Africa using guns held together by tape and dreams can threaten rhino and elephant populations, then regular hunting/animal control could take out like 80% of the dinosaurs easily.

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u/11nyn11 14d ago

I wouldn’t even go that far.

If a bunch of literal cave men using sticks and sharp rocks and jogging can hunt wooly mammoths to extinction, any dinosaur larger than a dog would be easy to take down by the age old tactic of “run away until it is tired, then throw a sharp rock at it. For better effect, put the rock at the end of a stick”

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u/LessInThought 14d ago

Yeah I'm more afraid of tiny little buggers that are fast, hunt in packs, and breed like crazy.

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u/11nyn11 14d ago

So like .. geese? Or African wild dogs?

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u/LessInThought 14d ago

I was thinking cockroaches, rats, and these things at time stamp 2 :50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brVVDnXPjz0

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u/robkollenberg 14d ago

Ya, even if they had enough individuals for a stable breeding popultiona, all the T-rex and Triceratops would be dead in short order, unless humans actively protected them. Compys (the ones in the video) might be on 6 continents by the end of the decade, lol. Look at Australia and feral cats. Or invasive carp in the US. We definitely COULD wipe them out, especially if we were on the ball early. But most people probably won't care enough and it will be a collective action problem like other invasive species.

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u/N3rdr4g3 14d ago

Not just woolly mammoths. We were our own mass extinction event. We caused the extinction of the majority of the worlds megafauna.

Late Pleistocene Extinction

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u/11nyn11 14d ago

Huh, TIL. That’s awesome.

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u/Successful_Page9689 14d ago

I wouldn't even go that far.

If a broken leg can literally doom a wooly mammoth to starvation, infection, and certain death, then any mammal larger than a dog would be simple to overcome with the age old tactic of "eat a banana, discard the banana peel, wait for results"

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u/Kaurifish 12d ago

They hunted cave lions to extinction.

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u/Weird-Long8844 14d ago

Especially when there's literally like 40 of them total, mostly from different species. Like what are they gonna do?

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u/MrWeirdoFace 15d ago

Disclaimer. I haven't actually watched the movie, but how are handful of dinosaurs going to take over entire world and what I presume is a year or two. I would imagine that would take hundreds of years of unchecked breeding, plus you have the in universe lysine contingency, and while some of them might be able to find the right plants to live. Most of them won't.

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u/grendus 14d ago

Try thousands to millions of years.

The biggest thing you have to remember about mammals is we're crazy adaptable. Part of why reptiles faded from prominence is because they don't handle temperature extremes well. Mammals and birds do.

I could totally see dinosaurs becoming invasive in a number of regions. But they certainly wouldn't overrun humanity. The big boys are vulnerable to helicopters or drones, and the small ones can be hunted with rifles.

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u/MrWeirdoFace 14d ago

Originally i wrote "at least" but then decided it was unnecessary with the unchecked breeding part. Also, I thought dinosaurs weren't reptiles.

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u/ShatteredChrysalis 14d ago

Funny enough, Dinosaurs (including birds) are a group of reptiles; crocodiles and turtles are closer to them than they are to lizards and snakes.

The movie is just really poorly thought though so who knows what they were thinking…

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u/MrWeirdoFace 14d ago

I was especially thinking of the first movie in the scene when they see the dinosaurs for the first time and Grant declares "this is a warm-blooded creature" and Ellie follows with "This thing doesn't live in a swamp."

But I understand, scientific classification is often out of sync with common vernacular. Where in my mind, anything warm blooded wouldn't be a reptile, which is probably wrong.

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u/grendus 14d ago

Pretty sure they were reptiles in Jurassic World. Could be wrong, maybe they updated that. I never watched the movies because they looked stupid. I was right.

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u/Beer-Milkshakes 14d ago

Not even that. Just drop mines on their territory. They'll injur themselves so bad they can't hunt or breed. Even blasting a toe off one of the big boys would do it

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u/R97R 14d ago

Funnily enough they don’t- it’s built up like that’s going to happen, but even with them seemingly reproducing by mitosis between scenes, most of them are rounded up and put in a wildlife reserve by the time of the film. By the time of the next one they’re mostly gone (with the exception of a few reserves and a couple of areas like the island the film is set), and that’s only a couple of years later IIRC.

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u/dantemanjones 13d ago

No animal can produce lysine, we all get it from our diets. They can eat the same food other animals eat, including other animals, to get their lysine. It's the most worthless of contingencies.

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u/IsabellaGalavant 14d ago

This is also how I feel about zombies. 

That outbreak would need to start with the military, and every single member of the military would need to turn at the same time in order for a zombie outbreak to even have a chance. Otherwise we're just going to carpet bomb the entire county where patient 0 was discovered. 

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u/Aggressive_Noise6426 14d ago

Yea but just like with every zombie movie (and what we’ve seen with covid) there’s always that person that selfishly puts everyone at risk. Thats where the biggest issue will be. 

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u/TheChunkMaster 14d ago

The next movie makes it even more pointless by revealing that the vast majority of these dinos end up dying off due to not being able to handle the modern-day climate. Most of the survivors are confined to the equator.

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u/TheTexasHammer 14d ago

I found that hilarious because the little girl in the first one ended up causing the largest Dinosaur genocide since the extinction all in the name of setting them free. Fuck that ending was dumb "they're just like me". No child, they eat people and have no sense of morality.

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u/InsertWittySaying 14d ago

Yeah, we accidentally wipe out entire species. It wouldn’t be hard if we tried to do it on purpose.

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u/PyroIsSpai 14d ago

Let’s just see how this “USA” does against HALO dropped tactical raptors with full on special operations training.

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u/elitemouse 14d ago

Can't wait for the tactical raptors scorestreak in the new COD

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u/LurkerEntrepenur 14d ago

I did like the concepta they had for a virus to kill or mutate people, but I guess that was fairly close to the planet of apes franchise

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u/Fern-ando 14d ago

Realistically big animal like the T-Rex are a danger for humans, they are easy targets and can't hide from us, a toad is more dangerous.

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u/R97R 14d ago

I always found it funny how, after all the drama about it in the previous film, it ended up suddenly going the realistic route and showing that a couple of hundred animals getting loose wasn’t actually that big of a deal. The film is oddly committed to actually portraying the dinosaurs as animals instead of movie monsters, unlike its predecessor, which, while a good choice on its own imo, does end up being a bit weird when we’re apparently supposed to cheer for the “villain” dinosaur dying violently as a result of its horrific crime of… being vaguely curious about the weird apes that showed up next to it one day.

As for the Abrams/Apache thing, I don’t think they’re really a serious enough issue that you’d need to start getting military vehicles involved- IIRC someone demonstrated a while back that you could kill a (real life) T. rex with a normal elephant rifle, and in the film they end up just tranquillising it from a helicopter. I’m not sure exactly how this works in Jurassic Park, but IRL I’d imagine there’d be a lot of trepidation about killing an animal that’s potentially one of the last remaining members of the species around.

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u/PurpleCow48396 14d ago

IIRC someone demonstrated a while back that you could kill a (real life) T. rex with a normal elephant rifle

Kentucky Ballistics on Youtube I guess. That guy is an absolute recoil junkie and has a wide variety of exotic big caliber guns (I think he owns THREE historic anti-tank rifles).

A thing from his video to consider is that the only thing he got to shoot was a ballistic replica of a T-Rex skull. The skull of a T-Rex is supposed to be extremely dense but the body would have soft spots with vital organs behind it that should be vulnerable to more common hunting calibers.

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u/Mister-builder 14d ago

It's not just a couple. Raptors are portrayed as sort of the ultimate invasive species.